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03-01-2010, 04:25 PM #1
Forensic Astrology - CHELSEA KING missing 2/25/10
I believe Soulscape will be looking into the man arrested for this crime and I will be charting the event of the parents' awareness she was missing.Life takes a toll. Please have exact change ready.
03-01-2010, 05:20 PM #2
Forensic Astrology - CHELSEA KING missing 2/25/10
Chelsea King Last Seen
3:00 pm PST +8:00
Degree of homicide rises (04 Leo) with violent MARS 01 Leo Rx hovering above (secret attack, 12th House) and partile inconjunct murdering BLACK MOON LILITH at 01 Pisces just within the 8th House of Death cusp. ASCENDANT itself partile inconjuncts PLUTO, 04 Capricorn, another death marker. MARS RX is focal point of YOD involving Lord 1 SUN (Chelsea) posited at 07 Pisces within the 8th House of Death and PLUTO 04 Capricorn.
This Last Seen MARS 01 Leo Rx is partile trine Gardner's natal MARS 01 Aries -- the secret attack was easy to orchestrate.
On the date of Last Seen, Lord 1 Chelsea the SUN 07 Pisces partile opposed Gardner's natal SATURN 07 Virgo. His SATURN is natally inconjunct his MARS 01 Aries, a most brutal and vicious aspect.
VENUS Lord 4 End of the Matter posited in 8th House of Death in Fateful Degree (same degree as the NODES) = catastrophe/tragedy/ fatality. Parts of MURDER & RAPE intercepted in Scorpio/Taurus across the 4/10 axis. RAPE1 at 18 Taurus is in Fateful Degree, another testimony to rape ending in death.
MOON VOC in 28 Cancer in 12th House of Misfortune, Sorrow & Woe, within orb of conj. to MARS RX 01 Leo. Violent death.
This was a wicked, wicked crime.
Part of DEATH in Pisces disposited by JUPITER in Pisces / NEPTUNE in Aquarius. Air signs on 8th and 4th. DEATH inconj. SATURN. Strangulation/ asphyxiation, cutting off of air, body in water (SUN as well as dispositer of DEATH in water). SOUTHWEST direction. Not sure of distance.
PS: Also, FWIW, Gardner's natal & progressed planets interact disturbingly with Amber DuBois's natal and Last Seen charts. It is astrologically possible he was involved with her disappearance/rape/murder, as well, although with so much time elapsed since that disappearance as well as the fact Amber's body has to date not been found, proving such without a confession on Gardner's part is highly unlikely if not downright impossible...
Last edited by Soulscape; 03-01-2010 at 10:25 PM. Reason: add chart, add commentary
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03-01-2010, 05:21 PM #3
03-01-2010, 05:27 PM #4
Thank you so much, Soulscape. Thank you, Tuba.
Blessings to you.
03-01-2010, 05:35 PM #5
I apologize for the bad form, but in the interest of saving time I have copied jnTexas's post from the "Case Requests" thread, which shows Chelsea's dob as Jul1, 1992, in Poway, Ca:
Chelsea King missing 2/25/2010 reported missing at 6pm
Suspect has been arrested, but they have not found her yet. Would a chart show if she will be found? Also they are saying he is also a suspect in the Amber DuBois (sp?) case.
DOB: Jul 1, 1992
Missing: Feb 25, 2010
Age Now: 17
Chelsea was born at Pomerado Hospital in Poway but the family moved away before she entered kindergarten. They lived in the Chicago area for 12 years before he was transferred to San Diego County in 2007 when Chelsea was in her freshman year. The family lives in a large home in a gated community in north Poway.
Here is the info on the RSO who was arrested in connection to her disappearance.
Gardner, John Albert
Address: 1050 Rock Springs Rd # 103
Zip code: 92026
Crime: 288(A) - Lewd Or Lascivious Acts With Child Under 14 Years
Date of birth: 04-09-1979
(Thanks to jnTexas for the rip.)
Last edited by FifthEssence; 03-01-2010 at 05:41 PM. Reason: shortened
03-01-2010, 05:36 PM #6
Parents of Chelsea King Realize She is MissingLife takes a toll. Please have exact change ready.
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03-01-2010, 06:03 PM #7
Thx Tuba and Soulscape... this is so sad.
There have been reports they are searching the lake. Also an unconfirmed comment that the perp was found with mud on him up to his knees.
Last edited by jnTexas; 03-01-2010 at 09:27 PM.
03-01-2010, 06:05 PM #8
Also interesting you note 'mud' as there had been some reporting of the fact that he had mud on him when arrested (witness at the restaurant)This bee my opinion
03-01-2010, 06:43 PM #9
Chelsea King; more info on the suspect
Here is some more info on the suspect: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4869503&postcount=706"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CA CA - Chelsea King (17) Rancho Bernardo (north San Diego County)[/ame]
In a nutshell, he committed the crime he served time for in March of 2000. May 31st of 2000 he pled guilty to two counts of LLM of a child and one count of false imprisonment and faced a max sentence of 10years and 8months. He was sentenced September 13th of 2000 to 6 years in State prison partly due to his psychological exam which deemed him a predator and showing no remorse or even admitting he committed the crime. He was given only 6 years because he had no serious prior record.
I know how you guys love exact dates so I wanted to make sure you had theseThis bee my opinion
03-01-2010, 06:45 PM #10
I read his conviction report and he was hard as stone resisting questions and never admitted any wrong. Also, it seems he is yet one more criminal trying to slip the jacket and put the thumb on someone else. Are you tired of hearing/reading that?Life takes a toll. Please have exact change ready.
03-01-2010, 07:20 PM #11
03-01-2010, 07:26 PM #12
It seems we posted at the same minute, nursebeeme! Thank you for the information.
Chelsea King had an exact Mercury stationary opposed Saturn by progression. Her Aquarian Saturn was square Pluto from birth and now that very menacing combination repeats itself. Therefore, she is far more susceptible than most people. She also had Uranus and Neptune together in Capricorn where the present node is. Now the energy of those two outer planets is convertible. Wonderful happenings and insights and emotional experiences can come from the combination. Or, together and with the node, they can bring rummy louche characters bent on law breaking.Life takes a toll. Please have exact change ready.
03-01-2010, 07:28 PM #13
Eyes4crime found his criminal records... and they are listed under "johnny" just in case you astros are doing any record digging. Here is a link to her post (thanks eyes...you are the queen of record finding!!!)
[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4869681&postcount=714"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CA CA - Chelsea King (17) Rancho Bernardo (north San Diego County)[/ame]
Also, do you see him with girlfriend and children? One poster (claims was neighbor in apartment he lived in) found a comment on a news story that this guy lived with a girlfriend and two children and had a temper, abused the girlfriend, drank a lot, etc..
Last edited by nursebeeme; 03-01-2010 at 07:35 PM.This bee my opinion
03-01-2010, 07:38 PM #14
03-01-2010, 08:22 PM #15
Chelsea King and Tuba's mud
[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4869862&postcount=731"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CA CA - Chelsea King (17) Rancho Bernardo (north San Diego County)[/ame]
It is being reported currently (per above post by our own travelingbug) when he was caught his pants were wet and had mud on them.This bee my opinion
03-01-2010, 08:33 PM #16
Gardner was arrested in front of Hernandez Hideaway, a resturant reported with an Escondido address. While this is technically correct, a better way to think of Hernandez Hideaway's location is lakefront, Lake Hodges.
This link has a map:
Also, this link has a map; see:
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03-01-2010, 10:39 PM #17
Gardner's MARS/PLUTO midpoint (violence/rape/murder) = 09 Capricorn, partile opposes Chelsea King's natal SUN 09 Cancer.
Gardner's (sunrise) chart shows SUN-NEPTUNE and MOON-NEPTUNE connections, often associated with drinking/addiction issues. His MOON may be within orb of conjunction to SATURN and opposition VENUS --- aspects associated with harshness towards women.
MARS quindecile (165 degrees) PLUTO caps it off: one mean, abusive, cold blooded snake, in light of known facts.............
03-01-2010, 10:48 PM #18
RE: Chelsea King, and possibly Amber Dubois missing from San Diego County, CA
Hope we can hear about this John Albert Gardner III arrested yesterday. Chelsea King still not found. Amber Dubois still missing. Is this man a monster?
03-01-2010, 10:54 PM #19
I am wondering if you can tell if JAG was more prone to commit a murder at the times of both Chelsea King and Amber Dubois going missing, and also the Dec. 28th, 2009 attack on a jogger that has identified JAG.
03-01-2010, 11:07 PM #20
I posted previously that unfortunately, there were disturbing interconnections amongst Amber DuBois's natal & secondary progressed charts, the Last Seen, and Gardner's chart and that his involvement was astrologically possible.
Regarding the 12/28/09 attack on a jogger, I do not have the needed information to assess (i.e., the date/time/place of the Event and the victim's birth data).
Regarding Passionflower's questioning whether Gardner might be a serial killer, his known background/arrests, etc. along with his natal wheel do not deny that possibility.
03-02-2010, 12:44 PM #21
Jogger attacked in Dec.'09 identifies Gardner
Jogger ID's Sex Offender In King Case As Park Attacker
POSTED: 6:42 pm PST March 1, 2010
UPDATED: 6:33 am PST March 2, 2010
10News has learned Candice Moncayo positively identified John Gardner as the man who attacked her last December on a trail near Lake Hodges. Her younger sister, Kayla Moncayo, wrote an article that appeared last Friday in the Silver Spur, the Rancho Bernardo High School paper. Moncayo wrote Candice was running on the trail when she "was tackled and thrown to the side of the running trail, caught off guard and without warning."
The attacker then "picked her up by her shoulders, shaking her relentlessly, which left bruises," the article said.
Moncayo wrote her sister fought back and elbowed the attacker in the nose. The blow gave Candice enough time to run away, and she then called police from a nearby home.
Candice Moncayo described her attacker as a white man, 6 feet 2 inches tall, with brown hair and eyes -- a description that matches Gardner.
03-02-2010, 07:02 PM #22
her body has been found (of course not +ID yet)This bee my opinion
03-02-2010, 07:51 PM #23
live feed to presser (any minute now) for those reading on our astro forumThis bee my opinion
03-02-2010, 07:59 PM #24
human remains in shallow grave
just left King home
most likely Chelsea
respect family's privacy
body was found in an area not far from previous discovery of evidence (shoe) 15 feet from tributary of lake... body was in a shallow grave. Took so long to find her because she was in a grave. spotted her from the water 10 feet from the shore line. SE of lake... not sure how long she has been there. will be doing a thorough investigation now. How far from car? 1/2 mile from parking lot... discovered shortly after one today. Discovery made from one of the searchers looking from water... after moving some small debris they found her. Arraignment still scheduled for tomorrow. Attack on december and november attack in escondito (could be more charges) late today or tomorrow for +ID; last seen left school on thurs at 2pm. body clothed or naked? won't comment... she was covered with debris. Family is devestated. Worst fears come true.
last seen 2pm thurs... after that no accurate timeline father found car at 1745.
Won't say anything about suspect
search started thurs night
no comment on evidence found
held in solitary to be observed so he doesn't harm himself or someone else can harm him
yes this is the area they have been searching for last five days... but didn't find it d/t shallow grave. the last time this heavily wooded area searched was last friday... not readily visible from homes on hill..
sonar did not help find the body. no more questions....This bee my opinion
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