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    Forensic Astrology - McSTAY family of 4 -last seen 2/4/10

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    Newspapers all over the country and Nancy Grace have given this missing persons' case good coverage. In order to marshall personnel, strategy, techniques and materiel, it is being classed as a homicide investigation. Some indications of foul play (not disclosed) within the residence also led to this classification.

    The family has not been heard from since February 4 but concern turned to panic when their vehicle was discovered abandoned in a mall at the border. Two hours later, it was towed to a yard, as is policy for autos left overnight at the mall. This was on February 8.

    If you like, copy or print the chart and turn it so that House 9 becomes the Ascendant, since this places the vehicle at the Cusp of then House 3 of one's cars (House 11 as the chart stands here). The Moon is rising after such a rotation of the chart and this means unwelcome changes coming up, owing to House 8 & 9 where you now find Cancer. She is also singled out because she rules the day and the ruler of the hour disposits her, meaning Jupiter in Pisces ruler of Sagittarius.

    Two Y formations or YODs, as shown in the left margin, one with Mars as stem, the other with Jupiter as stem, bring radical change to the life and often coincide with violence. The House of circulating and traveling around is chock-a-block in the turned chart, so there is a lot of heavy dialogue as well. In the chart as it was cast, Sun in House 11 says something over the top and beyond all boundaries has occurred.
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    Police Execute Search Warrant McStay House

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    This is a chart for the event last Friday, searching the house under warrant. I cast and analysed the chart Sunday night. The Sun up in House 10, very public, is about to form yet another YOD or Y formation with Mars and Saturn. This would be the return of the warrant and the brief statement to press occurring later. The Sun was in a Mutable Sign so some alteration was sure to come and indeed, the investigation changed from missing persons to homicide.

    The Yod or Y that had already formed was one of shared suffering. (See left margin of chart.) The Yod forming on the weekend shows authorities were compelled to act due to findings in the home, Sun ruler House 4, and due to practicalities. Y formations do coincide with crime. This pattern also warns of false starts and much frustration.

    The neighbor, Moon in Taurus in H. 12, is of probing interest to an astrologer because she is shown to have acted regrettably and to be very stiff and unyielding regarding her real property and her rights. There had been a hard tilt with a neighbor, when she squared Mars. This produced severely edged estrangement. Further, because she is Fixed & Cadent, she made the squawk when it was too late to right the situation. Mars rules not only H. 7, in tandem with Pluto, but also H. 12, so the action she took was her undoing and the reason she's now quarreling with her bread & butter in seclusion.

    A thought that is like a piece of ice down the neck~when she resorted to persuaders, were they strong armed goons?
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    How Many Y are Too Many? The McStays

    Eager sleuths will remember from the general thread that the retrograde of Mars finds criminals returning to the scene of commission. Sure, the instinct is always there but never is it stirred as when Mars goes into reverse. In the search warrant chart, Mars is back at the home but hesitates about entering because retrograde. A planet in backward motion at a cusp like this is always reluctant but enter he must in due time.

    House 3 is always where we find visitors and there is Mars. As noted on the chart though, Mars is out of bounds as well as in reverse motion. This Mars is hyper competitive and ready to scramble some ears. Also, retrograde, has been on the boil for a long time. He suffers from trouble on the job. Nothing he does pleases the boss. See House 10 for the persons of House 3. Money is a big issue, Moon ruling H. 3 in Taurus square Mars. At 2:36 Leo, he is immature and he is acting abnormally, dysfunctionally, out of bounds and backward in motion. His solstice point is in the thick of The Weeping Sisters (Fixed Star Group of sorrow) and hovering at the Ascendant.

    How many YOD are too many? There are actually three in the chart because two were discussed and marked on the San Ysidro car chart. Therefore, there is violence and crime writ large and in red on this map. The culprit Mars is in sextile of 60 with the ruler of long distance travel, Saturn. Householder Sun is the stem of that crossroads forcing action.

    Mercury, ruler of the Isuzu Trooper in San Ysidro, is 2741' Capricorn directly opposite the Part of Fortune 2818' Cancer in the search warrant chart. What this means is that evidence regarding that vehicle and its placement in relation to deductions from the home will provide a bonanza for the investigators.

    The householder Sun and the Moon (of siblings, neighbors, visitors) together create the occasion for a long trip, Saturn as stem. Lastly, we have Sun and Pluto making an opportunity (60) for the intruder Mars. Pluto is in the House of commingled funds, death, taxes, investigation, H. 8. The intruder is most definitely uninvited, is rude & brash, commands the residents like a generalissimo, sweats copiously and makes the visit short, just long enough to give his marching orders. He is looking for a payoff, to settle up and take his beef out of somebody's hide.

    No one is above suspicion in this crime. The lag in notification does not sit well. Breaking a window could be avoided by asking the police to enter with their key ring but the family may have been frantic.
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    Neglected McStay Trooper and Towing

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    McStay family

    Where was the Isuzu Trooper on Feb. 4, 5, 6, 7th? The mall tows any car left after 10pm. Thus the Trooper was deposited in the mall parking lot after 10pm on the 7th and before 9am on the 8th.

    On Feb. 2nd, at 8:54am, in Bonsall, asteroid 'Mexico' was exactly conjunct the Moon at 1"56 Libra in the 7th house. Within minutes it passed Saturn at 4 Libra. The Sun is conjunct Black Moon Lilith in Aquarius at 13:44. Ascendant 28:34 Pisces. Asteroid 'Carr' 14 degrees Gemini.

    Joe's 28 degree Scorpio Sun exactly conjuncts his natal Neptune, trine 28 degree Cancer Black Moon trine the Ascendant of Feb. 2nd at 8:54am, 28 Pisces. Tragedy all around. I can't tell for sure if he's the target or the instigator.

    Could they have been targeted at this time? And, why bring the car back 4 to 6 days later?
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    McStay family

    The report from the towing company was very clear about the time but not whether it was a.m. or p.m. It said that if a vehicle is left for 12 hours or more, it is towed and that it was discovered at 9 and towed at 11. The policy you are referring to is different and may be the correct one (but it is not the one I read). To cover both possibilities, I did two charts. The first one #359, was for sighting the car at 9 in the morning. The second one, also for February 8 and clearly set for 9 p.m., Sun in House 5, is the alternate posted last night, #365. Simply do not ask me why I have garbage in the upper left corner. It does not relate to the chart itself and must relate to the Last Seen which I would love to do but we have no time. Anyway, the two charts are correct and cover both possibilities. I will remove the garbage.

    Neptune is the planet of disappearance and this explains the conjunction you note. It is also the planet of kidnap and of assassination. The search ongoing is along that isolated stretch between Bonsall and San Ysidro. There is a concurrent search in Baja California and in Mexico. Until something is found, there is no way to eliminate either possibility, so it is wise to look at the road from the house to the border.
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    Creature Under the Sidewalk in Bonsall-Fallbrook

    Joey McStay looks to be designed for the business he created. He has the business conjunction of Mercury and Sun, and then Neptune of fountains is added to that conjunction, all in the Sign of deep waters, Scorpio. He also sports an enterprising Aries Moon. He has, by progression, a realty investment opposition between Jupiter and Saturn (exact) mediated by Venus trine one and sextile the other. His progressed Mercury is harmonious to his chart and to his progressed Moon. However, the mob planet is on that Moon and is stationary, which makes it muy fuerte. His Sun by progression came into square with his Uranus about a year and a half ago. A distinct break or breach with some entity. There is an odd note, in that his Venus and Mars at birth were exactly square, 11 - 11, Scorpio to Aquarius but now, Mars has moved to 11 Pisces, so that his love relations are smoother, less tempestuous.

    So, the only real watch out is that Moon on stationary Pluto while Pluto overhead is sitting on his wife. When I say sitting on her, I mean sitting HARD because we never forget Saturn is at the same time squaring. Joey's Venus there (by progression) tried to protect her but is no match for Pluto and Saturn.

    Of course, under the present Full Moon, we cannot forget the last Full Moon which preceded the McStay disappearance. It was exactly opposite Joey's natal Mars in Aquarius. That always signals trouble.
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    McStay family

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    TUBA wrote:
    Of course, under the present Full Moon, we cannot forget the last Full Moon which preceded the McStay disappearance. It was exactly opposite Joey's natal Mars in Aquarius. That always signals trouble.
    So, there is that possibility that the instigating 'trigger' for the abduction was the result of something that occurred ( an action,a verbal confrontation? ) around the weekend of the Full Moon-Jan 30th and the last known date they were 'seen/heard from of Feb 4th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FifthEssence View Post
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    So, there is that possibility that the instigating 'trigger' for the abduction was the result of something that occurred ( an action,a verbal confrontation? ) around the weekend of the Full Moon-Jan 30th and the last known date they were 'seen/heard from of Feb 4th.
    The youngest boy's birthday was on the 31st January. Haven't read or heard of any family celebrating it. Has anyone?

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    Some Further Considerations re: McStays

    Although Joe McStay was Scorpio born and has that cluster at the Sun, the Full Moon did not aspect it. As we know, it aspected his Mars and exactly. Not to be ignored is the impact of transit Mars with that Full Moon and marking the midway point of Joe's Mars cycle. That is a restless time when it actually is good to go on vacation. We know he did not voluntarily do that, however. The evidence is pretty clear. Work obligations now, even if you run your own business, are a drag.

    Whatever decision or plan was made when Mars was on his Mars has results in the present; this is the harvest. Assessment is needed but no major break or change is timely. We must be aware that moving to Bonsall meant moving the business, too. There may have been adverse effect coming out of that if it altered his company in a large sense or made logistics of all operations more difficult. In any case, tension and stress were running high from the Full Moon onward (and in the run up to the F.M.).

    This Full Moon aroused enmity. We are trying so hard to understand from what quarter and the chart points to House 3, as noted earlier. Its influence was angry and aggressive, it provoked reactive attitude and irritation. It was pushy and domineering. Will was exerted powerfully. Impulse and haste caused more trouble. Worst of all is the risk of violent crime at such an aspect.

    There is this added oddity. Not only was Joe's Moon progressed to his Pluto but his brother's Moon is at that degree also and Michael's Pluto is where Saturn is located now and square the position of transit Pluto. As we saw, this transit Pluto is on Summer's Sun.

    Why aren't we hearing about that birthday celebration? It may well have been confined to the family in Bonsall but if not, there could be interesting interaction then due to the timing (Full Moon).
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    McStays, cont.

    I just want to add one factor that I was studying yesterday, for rumination at your leisure. Full Moons deliver what New Moons promise. The January NM happened to be that solar eclipse at 25 Capricorn, on a degree of obstruction*. The eclipse was on Michael's Jupiter, ordinarily a happy portent but Michael's Jupiter is square his Uranus at 23:03 Libra. That is the placement of brother Joey's Jupiter. Though competition between the two could spur them on to achievement, many a conflict came out of this mutual thwarting because (perhaps innocently & unwittingly) they were acting at cross purposes.

    All of this is not to say that Joey or Michael brought these criss cross stakes to a temperature where they caught fire because there may be a third party, who like Jose Baez, has Saturn in Aries opposing and squaring the brothers and igniting a real conflagration.

    *Samuel Weymss, Vol. III.
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    No official updates on this missing family? Eerily quiet. Texas Equusearch went there to investigate, yet no updates.

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    Agree. That entry at the local notice site: "an adult missing" also disturbed me when this case broke and still does.
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    The youngest boy's Mercury at 27 Aquarius is sextile asteroid 'photographica' at 27 Aries. Venus, on Feb. 8th was conjunct his natal Mercury, at 27 Aquarius.

    The Sun at 20 Aquarius was conjunct his natal Neptune at 19 Aquarius, with asteroid 'America' trying to catch up at 18 Aquarius. Leads me to think they got a picture.

    Joe's 'photographica' at 27 Capricorn was being transited by Mercury at 28 Capricorn.

    Did the eye-in-the-sky capture at least those two?

    Warning: When reading my posts remember there may be other mitigating astrological factors that I haven't taken into account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuba View Post
    Agree. That entry at the local notice site: "an adult missing" also disturbed me when this case broke and still does.
    I missed that. What is the local notice site?

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