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    Okay, I saw that notice in the Village News. That would be www.thevillagenews.com of February 25, 2010 quoting for incident on February 15. It may have been in the North County Times, as well. I felt the item was uninformative, therefore I made no notes on it. Now, you can help me. It was Diane Cirignani, good friend of the McStays, who last spoke to or saw a family member on February 4, 2010. She runs Vernazza Realty at Rancho Santa Margarita. I do not know where that is but we need to know what time the contact occurred. Please, Diane, tell us when you spoke to Summer or Joey!
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    Also needed, the birth date for ex-con Charles Ray ("Chase") Merritt. Felony offenses in 1978 and in 1987 in California. He has some involvement in the indoor fountain business. In searching for the old notice about the missing adult, I was exposed to the amount of current crime, much of it violent, in this area North County of San Diego.
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    Just read this: “We are encouraged that the four subjects that are walking across the border are holding hands. It appears that they are just walking toward a gate. It doesn’t appear that somebody is holding their arm or escorting them across. That is encouraging to us,” Frank said. “But again, we cannot confirm it is the family.”

    Frank said investigators are looking into whether they can have the video enhanced to provide a clearer picture. Hours of video from nearby businesses is being reviewed by sheriff’s personnel and volunteers from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

    The discovery of the family walking across the border was made a couple of days ago by a volunteer, Frank said.

    Based on witness statements, investigators believe the family car was parked in a commercial center parking lot near the border between 5 and 9 p.m. Feb. 8. The car was towed at 11:05 p.m. because it was left in the lot after business hours."

    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...issing-family/

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    I'm wondering who picked them up on the other side? Remember the Mars on his Mars on Feb. 19, 2009? I think you said plans were being made then. Surely they must have everything in place to walk into a foreign country with nothing.

    (This site goes down every time I want to post something, gotta hurry.)
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    Paulette, when you sign in with your password etc., there is a small box to the right that reads, 'remember me.' Put a check mark in there. That way, you'll stay logged in for hours.

    Trust this helps you out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FifthEssence View Post
    Paulette, when you sign in with your password etc., there is a small box to the right that reads, 'remember me.' Put a check mark in there. That way, you'll stay logged in for hours.

    Fifth, when I do that, I'm logged in for weeks and weeks, and on the rare occasions when I clear my computer's memory, I have to start again by checking that box.



    I know the charts say something like "brutal abduction" but could this have happened AFTER they walked across the border? Perhaps they were just going for the day/evening, didn't want to take their car, so they walked? It would explain leaving the dogs home alone, unsupervised. I know people used to do enter like that all the time along the border before things got bad. It was easier to leave the car in a parking lot (shopping center, hotel lot) than it was to drive it across, due to inspections and insurance.

    Could they possibly have done this and gotten ambushed? Of course, if one were to do that, you'd certainly want to go through border patrol to be legal, I know my aunts did that when they walked across at Laredo, TX/Nuevo Laredo, Mex. in the early 1970s.

    But the article says they were photographed four days after their disappearance. Did they have their passports with them?

    It could also have been another family who resembles the McStays from a distance. What a puzzle!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuba View Post
    Also needed, the birth date for ex-con Charles Ray ("Chase") Merritt. Felony offenses in 1978 and in 1987 in California. He has some involvement in the indoor fountain business. In searching for the old notice about the missing adult, I was exposed to the amount of current crime, much of it violent, in this area North County of San Diego.
    This article states that Charles Ray Merritt is 52 years old.

    http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=12025015

    At the link below, Charles Ray Merritt has a DOB of 5/2/1957, which seems to correspond to age 52. The cases listed for him are out of Orange County and Riverside County, California.

    http://www.criminalsearches.com/details.aspx?id=w1x00xD5&vw=criminal&1=TvVixkFkO41 zF9TW%2bJth9JEF7gdxEyeruIoz%2boYnPXM%3d&input=name

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    http://www.criminalsearches.com/default.aspx

    (Type in last and first name, then select California then click search and the information can be accessed if the above link doesn't work)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuba View Post
    Okay, I saw that notice in the Village News. That would be www.thevillagenews.com of February 25, 2010 quoting for incident on February 15. It may have been in the North County Times, as well. I felt the item was uninformative, therefore I made no notes on it. Now, you can help me. It was Diane Cirignani, good friend of the McStays, who last spoke to or saw a family member on February 4, 2010. She runs Vernazza Realty at Rancho Santa Margarita. I do not know where that is but we need to know what time the contact occurred. Please, Diane, tell us when you spoke to Summer or Joey!
    Just bumping Tuba's post. It's important.

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    McStay Last Known Human Contact

    http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/r...Contact001.jpg

    Thanks to the research efforts of Fifth Essence, we now know that it was Summer who took the initiative to call her realtor friend, Dxxx. We also know when she phoned and the above link will take you to the chart, a Last Heard From. We have to wonder what signal happening occurred on February 18 because on that day, the Sun hit the solstice point of the Moon in our chart above.

    The solar eclipse in January was on a degree of obstruction. It must have had important ripples that reached this day in February because the Part of Fortune here is at critical flash point, could not be more public and noticeable than on the Midheaven (see chart) and is just one degree from that solar eclipse point.

    With Neptune in the Sign & House of circumstances, Summer's plight is about to go critical but is already chaotic. Neptune rules a happening in the past caused by that individual, Neptune. He is muy flexible because in mutual reception with Uranus~they can shift roles any time and restore normalcy. They, unfortunately, chose not to do that because Neptune of disappearances has swallowed this family!
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    Tuba, Thank you so much for the chart and thanks also to Fifth for finding the information necessary to complete it.

    One question was Dxxx a Realtor and a friend or was she their friend and their Realtor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frigga View Post
    Tuba, Thank you so much for the chart and thanks also to Fifth for finding the information necessary to complete it.

    One question was Dxxx a Realtor and a friend or was she their friend and their Realtor?

    She's a Realtor....and I believe a Licensed Broker. She was friends with Summer and did work with her in the past.

    See cached page:

    http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=dia...380609,ad3dff7

    snips:
    Family and friends last saw the McStays on Feb. 4, friend Diane Cirignani said in an interview. She was a bridesmaid at the McStays' 2007 wedding and used to work with Summer at a real estate agency.
    Last year, the family had a surf-themed birthday party for their eldest son, Cirignani said. McStay also played soccer at a Laguna Niguel field with a group of friends every week.

    The family moved to Fallbrook in December because they were looking for a four-bedroom house on a cul-de-sac with a yard, but couldn't afford Orange County prices, Cirignani said.


    "The dogs were left outside without food or water. They never would have left the dogs outside without telling their friends," Cirignani said. She said Summer McStay called Bear, whom she has had at least nine years, her first child.

    Cirignani said she thinks the family did not go voluntarily and does not know why their car was found near the Mexican border. Last year, Cirignani and her husband were planning to go on vacation with the McStays but they all decided not to go to Mexico because they thought it was too dangerous, Cirignani said. She added that she had never heard of Joseph McStay conducting business in Mexico for his company.
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    The partner "Chase", Chas. Ray Merritt, was visited by Mars on the 17th and 18th of February. Mars hit his Uranus, infuriating him but remember, this is AFTER the family went missing. Neptune was also opposing the Merritt Pluto. He was born with Moon and Mars in II square retro Jupiter in Virgo--not too concerned with legal codes & bothersome rules. He is, on the other hand, very concerned with money. His Mercury & Venus are conjoined in Taurus and of course, his Sun is there too, being an early May birth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuba View Post
    http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/r...Contact001.jpg

    Thanks to the research efforts of Fifth Essence, we now know that it was Summer who took the initiative to call her realtor friend, Dixxx. We also know when she phoned and the above link will take you to the chart, a Last Heard From. We have to wonder what signal happening occurred on February 18 because on that day, the Sun hit the solstice point of the Moon in our chart above.

    The solar eclipse in January was on a degree of obstruction. It must have had important ripples that reached this day in February because the Part of Fortune here is at critical flash point, could not be more public and noticeable than on the Midheaven (see chart) and is just one degree from that solar eclipse point.

    With Neptune in the Sign & House of circumstances, Summer's plight is about to go critical but is already chaotic. Neptune rules a happening in the past caused by that individual, Neptune. He is muy flexible because in mutual reception with Uranus~they can shift roles any time and restore normalcy. They, unfortunately, chose not to do that because Neptune of disappearances has swallowed this family!
    Tuba, can you put this in layman's terms? Are you saying Summer was in distress? That she made bad financial decisions?
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 02-06-2011 at 02:08 AM.

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    There are many possibilities. One is that a buyer of real property threatened &/or actually took revenge because Summer, a realtor, assured him she could get him financing on the purchase and then he did not qualify. If he was a manic freak, he could have reacted. Or, she could have mishandled funds along similar lines.
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    Thank you, Tuba. This case is so mysterious. How does a family with 2 young children just drop off the face of the earth?

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