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    Quote Originally Posted by kbl8201 View Post
    the fact is california's parole laws are already a joke (see jaycee, chelsea) and this makes it even worse.
    but has mark been out of the country for 7 months? cause this is not news to any of us.......why not get talking about it in august when it was passed?
    You Are Not Getting It.

    Whistle Blowers, DMH IGNORING THE LAW,

    Before you judge please get the facts straight.

    I almost forgot the most important thing.

    A young girl was murderd because of the D.M.H.

    Gilton Petri was released via a look over his paperwork and four days later her raped and murdered and Alyssa Gomes.

    That's just one we know of. I bet there are many many more.
    Last edited by Tricia; 03-07-2010 at 01:55 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Mist View Post
    That's what I heard -- they are doing "paper reviews" not face-to-face evals.

    Is that what the citizens of CA is paying for? Promising to review the offenders they release, but someone is doing a 'workaround' on procedure?

    I was about to say Californians s/b about this -- but fact is, these dangerous felons can go anywhere.....just because they are supposed to register doesn't mean they do....The whole country s/b
    In many states, SO's are allowed to self monitor and report and most don't. Even the act of submitting DNA to the state data base is left up to the offender. Nevada had a loophole that mandated DNA at the offenders expense and if the offender claimed they couldn't afford it.....no DNA collected.

    California is just the tip of the iceberg. ITA the whole country should be upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuziQ View Post
    In many states, SO's are allowed to self monitor and report and most don't. Even the act of submitting DNA to the state data base is left up to the offender. Nevada had a loophole that mandated DNA at the offenders expense and if the offender claimed they couldn't afford it.....no DNA collected.

    California is just the tip of the iceberg. ITA the whole country should be upset.
    I agree SuziQ. We should all be upset that these predators are released over and over into our neighborhoods.

    What I find so shocking about this situation is the Whistle Blowers have brought this horrible case of illegal activity by the D.M.H. to the proper authorities and it is totally and completely ignored.
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    How many of the SO's released were High Risk Sex Offenders?

    Who has the status levels on all the SO's released?

    Where the High Risk SO's put on GPS?

    When did California officially run out of money?

    In total, the Governor proposes spending $59 million in 2006-07 and then tripling funding—to $178 million in 2007-08—so that the departments of Justice (DOJ), Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR) and Mental Health (DMH) can enact the plan.
    http://gov.ca.gov/index.php?/fact-sheet/4967/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty G View Post
    How many of the SO's released were High Risk Sex Offenders?

    Who has the status levels on all the SO's released?

    Where the High Risk SO's put on GPS?

    When did California officially run out of money?

    In total, the Governor proposes spending $59 million in 2006-07 and then tripling funding—to $178 million in 2007-08—so that the departments of Justice (DOJ), Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR) and Mental Health (DMH) can enact the plan.
    http://gov.ca.gov/index.php?/fact-sheet/4967/
    Patty I don't know what level the offenders were on but it is my understanding these were violent sex offenders. I may be wrong but I think this is the case.

    It appears the D.M.H. has been ignoring Jessica's Law all along. If they didn't have the money for it then they should have let it be known rather than letting these guys out.

    In my opinion as a society how can we function if we are not safe? Think about it, If we do not follow the laws AND we are not safe from predators how functional can our society be?

    The first thing a society needs to function on a civilized level is safety. Either safety through laws or safety through law enforcement.

    If we are not safe then guess what? Everything else starts to fall apart.

    To me, the Whistle Blowers are heroes. The fact they have been ignored is something I am so stunned at I don't even know what to say.

    Yes, California is in a horrible financial state but state officials have to follow the law.

    What is the D.M.H's budget? My guess is it is enough money to hire two trained people to meet with these guys to decide whether they should be let out or not.

    My point is this is a corner that, by law, cannot be cut.
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    Is there an update to when Mark Klass took on the state of Massachusettes re: "Jessica's Law"?

    http://timeinmoments.wordpress.com/2...-jessicas-law/

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    Just want to stick this article in here:

    Constitutionality of 'Jessica's Law' questioned
    Treating sex predators differently from other violent offenders may violate equal protection guarantees, the California Supreme Court says.

    January 29, 2010|By Maura Dolan

    The California Supreme Court ruled 5 to 2 Thursday that a 2006 ballot initiative that permitted the state to lock up sexually violent predators indefinitely may violate constitutional guarantees of equal protection.

    http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jan...or29-2010jan29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricia View Post
    Patty I don't know what level the offenders were on but it is my understanding these were violent sex offenders. I may be wrong but I think this is the case.

    It appears the D.M.H. has been ignoring Jessica's Law all along. If they didn't have the money for it then they should have let it be known rather than letting these guys out.

    In my opinion as a society how can we function if we are not safe? Think about it, If we do not follow the laws AND we are not safe from predators how functional can our society be?

    The first thing a society needs to function on a civilized level is safety. Either safety through laws or safety through law enforcement.

    If we are not safe then guess what? Everything else starts to fall apart.

    To me, the Whistle Blowers are heroes. The fact they have been ignored is something I am so stunned at I don't even know what to say.

    Yes, California is in a horrible financial state but state officials have to follow the law.

    What is the D.M.H's budget? My guess is it is enough money to hire two trained people to meet with these guys to decide whether they should be let out or not.

    My point is this is a corner that, by law, cannot be cut.
    Is the D.M.H's budget public information?

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    Hi Guys,

    Sorry about the different threads. I posted about this in several forums so everyone would see it. I left the thread open so you could comment not realizing it would be confusing. So sorry.

    It seems some people think this might not be a big deal. I hope I can change your mind and show you just how serious this is.

    The Department of Mental Health in California is IGNORING Jessica's Law.

    Whistle Blowers have been trying for months now to get someone to listen to them and no one will. Finally Klaas agreed to represent them and get this information out in the media in hopes something will be done.

    I find it jaw dropping that state employees whose job it is to help keep society safe, decided on their own, to ignore Jessica's Law and let violent sexual predators out into the population without once being examined by a psychiatrist. Instead of the two in person examinations to be made by two different psychiatrists the D.M.H. decided one psychiatrist reading the sex offenders PAPER WORK was enough.

    The D.M.H. decided the voters of California should be ignored and the safety of California citizens should be put in peril because they decided they didn't want to follow the law.

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    Whistle Blowers are out there screaming at the top of their lungs and no one in authority cares.

    To me, that is jaw dropping.

    Finally, there is at least one murder that we know of that probably would not have happened had Jessica's Law been enforced.

    Gilton Petri was released after one person read his paper work. Four days after he was released he raped and murdered Alyssa Gomes.

    One murder, One rape, is one too many.

    It is because of people like Gilton Petri that the citizens of California voted overwhelmingly (70% for 30% against) to enact Jessica's Law. The D.M.H. does not have the right to ignore the law anymore than you and I do.
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    Can you combine all the threads together and perhaps put it in the Public Forum so that this information can be seen throughout cyber-world should someone do a google regarding Jessica's Law, or Mark Klass etc. etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty G View Post
    Can you combine all the threads together and perhaps put it in the Public Forum so that this information can be seen throughout cyber-world should someone do a google regarding Jessica's Law, or Mark Klass etc. etc.
    YEs Patty. Will do right now. Good idea.
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    I'm going to close this thread and direct you to the new discussion with the letters from the Whistle Blowers posted. Please PLEASE read those letters.

    Thanks everyone,

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97301"]California Dept. of Mental Health Illegally Releases 17 Thousand Sex Offenders - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]
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