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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan1 View Post
    I read the article DebM had in the paper and she said that she was going to move and she was going to move the business because of it's association as a murder scene. I take it plans have changed and she is staying there?
    If she does not have the paperwork done for the licensing, is she just not operating the business until she gets it? Or does she have some special provision from the licensing agency to operate?
    I remember earlier when DebM was speaking through people. If she was living with Finally, why didn't she just use Finally's computer and speak for herself? She had said she didn't come on because law enforcement had her computer and she would sign up as soon as she got her computer, but there is no reason she can't use someone else's computer. Also, she said she was going to communicate with ACandyRose and ACR said that never happened. ACR is an excellent choice. I've told ACR myself I think of ACR as Switzerland, a very honest and impartial poster. ACR also has one of the best websites I have ever seen.
    ACR, if you are around, I hope you are feeling better. You have been missed while you are recuperating. My mom had sciatic nerve problems for 6 agonizing months and it was so hard watching her suffer and feeling helpless because there is nothing you can do.
    No, at that time when we were posting, I was NOT living with DebM, nor had we signed the lease to help back then. Although, all this time I have been the only means of transportation and was driving over 20 miles one way to help take her places and the offer was given to take her either to a public library or my home for internet access. The answer to why DebM never posted for herself would have to be directed towards her I guess.
    Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, 'Where have I gone wrong?' Then a voice says to me, 'This is going to take more than one night.

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    As far as I know I haven't posted any personal info about anyone. Since my address is involved in this that is all public record if anyone cares to look it up. Most everyone on here uses a fictitious name on here so no foul there. Using hubby & daughter doesn't seem wrong to me either so I agree with Susan1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan1 View Post
    I'm no moderator, but I think that is only true to a point. Keep in mind that Dorice Moore, AKA Dmoore, was also allegedly a member on this site. I believe that the rule is that we cannot post personal info on people who are not involved with the case.

    DebM is directly involved in this case as she lives in the murder scene and obtained American Medical Professionals from the murderess. She also gave an interview to the newspaper pertaining to this case. And if the address that is being used for American Medical Professionals is different than the one it is really being operated from, then that sounds newsworthy to me as well. I am not a moderator, but my opinion is that we have learned a great deal here about what is going on with American Medical Professionals that we could not have learned anywhere else. I think their discussion has been immensely valuable to this thread and I appreciate the truth being aired.
    I agree, it's very valuable info...just giving the friendly reminder so more valuable info can continue to be forthcoming!

    I'm certainly no mod either and certainly didn't want to quash the convo!

    Just was sayin....back to reading

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    Quote Originally Posted by ****** View Post
    OK folks, let's keep the TOS in mind. Thanks.
    Good gravey!!! Thanks ******! now it looks like I reported!

    Just for the record I DID NOT!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GranGran4 View Post
    Okay, this is not the place to air dirty laundry nor to have a personal feud going here, but again I always have to clean up what mess others seem to want to cause.
    It is true about the rental contract, but as of now DebM is the only person that has paid any money for the rental. Electric and phone is also in DebM's name, the only thing that isn't is the cable, which she isn't allowed to use.
    The fact that she couldn't rent something on her own (the reason she was coming back to Bonifay) was that rental places wanted proof of her income. Unfortunately the payroll company wouldn't give that information out. The only thing they would tell the rental people is yes she does own a company.
    Yes, DebM did in fact live with me at 1354 Wrights Creek Rd. Bonifay, Fl.......so what? Don't understand your point here.
    I don't know anything about whether you gave up your Easter with family or not, that wasn't discussed with me.
    I have no clue what you are talking about with LE, but whatever.........I don't know you and have only met you for about 1 hour when you came to my house with DebM. Anything that DebM has ever said about you has always been nice and nothing personal about you. The only personal stuff I know about you is that you have a hubby and you told me about your children. That is nice about 250 million are right there with you. I have a hubby and children also, 7 cats and 3 dogs and now 11 puppies. Does that make me a bad person that LE would want to destroy that?
    I'm sorry to see the living arrangement not working out, but none of that is my business and I will not be drawn into something that I live 7 hours away from. What goes on down there is between you people.
    Sorry I don't know anything about Sunbiz.org.......whatever it is used for and if it has anything to do with 1354 Wrights Creek Rd. then yes that is my address. Don't get your point here either.
    Shoot honey at my age (62) I don't care what people say about me. I have an old saying....."As long as they are talking about me, then they aren't talking about someone else."
    Now that this bickering and blame game is over I think the forum need to be turned back over to the people that care about AS and his family. Seems that is what this forum is about....right?
    My apologies for disturbing the forum with such petty stuff.
    Unless you KNOW the truth of someone's living arrangements and who actually pays and has what bills in who's name... please do not post in reference to it. I mean you no harm GranGran4, and please understand that just because someone tells you something...does NOT make what was told true or factual! On my own behalf, after you in knowing all that I have done as a friend, do you actually think that I would deny anyone anything? I have gave up soooooo much to help...please realize exactly what was said to you by DebM, in reference to me "always been nice" was TRUTH and FACTUAL about myself! But as far as living arrangements...you have no clue. You don't live here and can't lie to yourself when you look at the caller ID!
    Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, 'Where have I gone wrong?' Then a voice says to me, 'This is going to take more than one night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan1 View Post
    I read the article DebM had in the paper and she said that she was going to move and she was going to move the business because of it's association as a murder scene. I take it plans have changed and she is staying there?
    If she does not have the paperwork done for the licensing, is she just not operating the business until she gets it? Or does she have some special provision from the licensing agency to operate?
    I remember earlier when DebM was speaking through people. If she was living with Finally, why didn't she just use Finally's computer and speak for herself? She had said she didn't come on because law enforcement had her computer and she would sign up as soon as she got her computer, but there is no reason she can't use someone else's computer. Also, she said she was going to communicate with ACandyRose and ACR said that never happened. ACR is an excellent choice. I've told ACR myself I think of ACR as Switzerland, a very honest and impartial poster. ACR also has one of the best websites I have ever seen.
    ACR, if you are around, I hope you are feeling better. You have been missed while you are recuperating. My mom had sciatic nerve problems for 6 agonizing months and it was so hard watching her suffer and feeling helpless because there is nothing you can do.
    heck i bet money is keeping debm from moving the business, the people i know from around here that are in dee dee's tangled web, did/do not have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. i know the people from psj, were there for the free ride, you know they say love is blinding, well maybe money is also blinding. that's what ja, shars brother was down there for, $$$$$$$$$$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finally_ View Post
    Unless you KNOW the truth of someone's living arrangements and who actually pays and has what bills in who's name... please do not post in reference to it. I mean you no harm GranGran4, and please understand that just because someone tells you something...does NOT make what was told true or factual! On my own behalf, after you in knowing all that I have done as a friend, do you actually think that I would deny anyone anything? I have gave up soooooo much to help...please realize exactly what was said to you by DebM, in reference to me "always been nice" was TRUTH and FACTUAL about myself! But as far as living arrangements...you have no clue. You don't live here and can't lie to yourself when you look at the caller ID!
    remember your own words finally, Just because someone says it does not make it true!!! i know you said pp has said things about me and you heard those things thru hear say......so i agree with you 100 percent.
    i'll tell you what i have going for myself, the truth, and you do not have to explain the truth, the truth speaks for it's self....and if the truth i speak hurts, well sometimes the truth hurts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GranGran4 View Post
    The plans did change. I know she had already lined up the Uhaul and was ready to leave but was talked into staying.
    Once she found out about the license thing she suspend all work. Not any of her nurses are working until everything has been completed by the State.
    Back at the time she was using other people to post for her they were not living together. As of right now LE has her computer again to repair, for they either accidentally dropped it and broke the MB (motherboard) or accidentally wiped her hard drive clean. Hopefully it will be back soon, but that is unknown at this time.
    I do not know the answer about ACR, but will speak to her about it.
    i will bet the nurses are working, the nurses do not need deb, dee dee moore to work. health services do not hinge on this one company, last i heard about this company, about 2 years ago, they lost alot of business in north florida, that is why pp told me she was down there to help dee dee start new accounts with their nursing service.....had not poor abraham come along and met up with a greedy evil witch, the business may have already folded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarman_fl View Post
    i will bet the nurses are working, the nurses do not need deb, dee dee moore to work. health services do not hinge on this one company, last i heard about this company, about 2 years ago, they lost alot of business in north florida, that is why pp told me she was down there to help dee dee start new accounts with their nursing service.....had not poor abraham come along and met up with a greedy evil witch, the business may have already folded.
    say gran gran, who talked debm into staying, and why would she stay i wonder, knowing all that happened? it seems to me, to take over a business from dee dee, an accused killer, she would know where de de's money was coming from, and it sure was not nursing!!!!!!!!!!!11

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    All I know is that she had called and said she would be back here around 2AM in the morning hours. Went to bed and next morning the call came that her and roommate had decided to stay.
    I didn't ask her why she was staying, but I know in the past she told me that she needed to be there to run the business as there is nothing up here to go out and market for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan1 View Post
    Is DebM still living in the red house? Is she still working out of it? If not, is she in the tan house? I have seen cars in both driveways and lights on in both houses. If that is not her business address, then what is? Last I knew there was some question if it was in Boniface, I believe.
    You may not know the answers to all or even any of these questions. But maybe someone else will.
    BBM

    Now I'm wondering who is paying the electric bill at the tan house?
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarman_fl View Post
    remember your own words finally, Just because someone says it does not make it true!!! i know you said pp has said things about me and you heard those things thru hear say......so i agree with you 100 percent.
    i'll tell you what i have going for myself, the truth, and you do not have to explain the truth, the truth speaks for it's self....and if the truth i speak hurts, well sometimes the truth hurts.
    Hey now, I never disclosed anything that was ever said about you...I don't (especially now) believe what I hear and half of what I see. I never said I believed anything that was said about you. Again, as a fellow poster I was only dropping you the hint that PP knew you were posting and that she was giving out your info...or giving statements in reference to you. I still feel as though you feel I was trying to give you a "Hush" warning...that was not my intention in any way, I was only trying to give you a heads up about things!
    Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, 'Where have I gone wrong?' Then a voice says to me, 'This is going to take more than one night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finally_ View Post
    Hey now, I never disclosed anything that was ever said about you...I don't (especially now) believe what I hear and half of what I see. I never said I believed anything that was said about you. Again, as a fellow poster I was only dropping you the hint that PP knew you were posting and that she was giving out your info...or giving statements in reference to you. I still feel as though you feel I was trying to give you a "Hush" warning...that was not my intention in any way, I was only trying to give you a heads up about things!
    oh i know you meant well, i was just making a point. i do not care what she says. as i have said before , i have only said things that are true.
    also i did not mean to indicate to you that you believed what was said.
    i have no problem with you what so ever.

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    Found this in terms of service:
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    Accessing or using someone else’s account or attempting to access another member’s account is strictly prohibited.

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    WOW! Much more added over the weekend! You guys have been busy!

    Susan, you reference a newspaper interview DebM gave....Was it ever published online? I missed this, and didn't know anything about it till you mentioned it like 2 days ago, then referenced it again today. I'd like to read it.

    Finally, is the household hostile, with both you & DebM living together with things being what they are? Or are you existing peacefully? How long of a lease did you & your husband sign? Do you have plans to move out?

    Sorry if I sound like a nosy person....I am! LOL

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    Boy do I have a LOT of catch up reading !!

    But for starters.. Hopefully one of the news media will check on this Discovery and see what is available for us.

    Court Docket Update for the "wiretapping case"

    http://publicrecord.hillsclerk.com/o...&pcCourtType=%

    Name: MOORE, DEEDEE Person Id: @549230 Party: D001 Party Status: Opened
    UCN: 292010CF003449D001TA Case Number: 10-CF-003449 Case Created: 03/03/2010 Division: A Case Status: Opened
    Case Type Description: OTHER Court Type: CIRCUIT CRIMINAL

    Filing Date Party Description Text
    04/20/2010 D001 NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
    03/26/2010 D001 NOTICE DEF INVOCAT CONST RIGHT
    03/26/2010 D001 ORDER APPOINTING THE OFFICE OF CRIMINAL CONFLICT AND CIVIL REGIONAL COUNSEL SIGNED BY JUDGE SLEET (DS)
    03/17/2010 D001 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY ATTY ATTY: STEPHEN B. FISHER; PURSUANT TO FLA.R.CRIM.P.3.112 / FILED 10-CF-001733
    03/16/2010 D001 DISPOSITION SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,DIS,10-MAY-2010,08:30, Judge:SLEET, DANIEL H., Room:CR16, Room Location:AN, User ID = DURAN
    03/15/2010 D001 CAPIAS RET. EXECUTED: 03.10.10
    03/15/2010 D001 CRIM AFF APP INDIGENT STATUS Determined to be Indigent fee assessed. Form filed. The Public Defender is hereby appointed to the case listed above until relieved by the Court.
    03/12/2010 D001 DEACTIVATED WARRANT DIIC-00306-10
    03/12/2010 D001 ARRAIGNMENT SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,ARGN,16-MAR-2010,08:30, Judge:SLEET, DANIEL H., Room:CR16, Room Location:AN, User ID = CROLL
    03/12/2010 D001 ARRAIGNMENT SET & NOTICE SENT Event Scheduled,ARGN,15-MAR-2010,08:30, Judge:SLEET, DANIEL H., Room:CR16, Room Location:AN, User ID = WATERSDO
    03/12/2010 D001 EVENT DELETED Event Deleted,ARGN,16-MAR-2010,08:30:00, Judge:SLEET, DANIEL H, Room:CR16, Room Location:AN, User ID = WATERSDO
    03/11/2010 D001 BOND SET AT: CT1 $2000
    03/11/2010 D001 CAPIAS SERVED
    03/11/2010 D001 TO BE SET PRESIDING JUDGE: HEINRICH COURT REPORTER: LINDSAY HUGHEY
    03/11/2010 D001 WITH COUNSEL ATTY CHARLES TRAINA
    03/10/2010 D001 CRA DATA SHARING RECORD REC'D
    03/04/2010 D001 DIRECT INFO FILED ISSUE CAPIAS
    03/03/2010 D001 DIRECT INFORMATION
    03/03/2010 D001 DIVISION ASSIGNMENT PROPOSED TO DIVISION F PER RESEARCH SLIP

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    I respectfully ask not to be called "candy" or "rose" as my screen name is ACandyRose (aka ACR)
    Remember, when telling a secret, that your best friend may have a best friend who is not your best friend.

    Erica Lynn Parsons Missing Timeline (Salisbury, NC)
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    Drew Peterson Trial 07/31/12 (Will he get a 2nd Trial?)
    http://www.acandyrose.com/drew_peterson_names.htm
    Casey Anthony's 31 Days Timeline Archive
    http://www.acandyrose.com/casey_anthony_31days.htm
    JonBenet Ramsey Case History Archive
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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan1 View Post
    I read the article DebM had in the paper and she said that she was going to move and she was going to move the business because of it's association as a murder scene. I take it plans have changed and she is staying there?
    If she does not have the paperwork done for the licensing, is she just not operating the business until she gets it? Or does she have some special provision from the licensing agency to operate?
    I remember earlier when DebM was speaking through people. If she was living with Finally, why didn't she just use Finally's computer and speak for herself? She had said she didn't come on because law enforcement had her computer and she would sign up as soon as she got her computer, but there is no reason she can't use someone else's computer. Also, she said she was going to communicate with ACandyRose and ACR said that never happened. ACR is an excellent choice. I've told ACR myself I think of ACR as Switzerland, a very honest and impartial poster. ACR also has one of the best websites I have ever seen.
    ACR, if you are around, I hope you are feeling better. You have been missed while you are recuperating. My mom had sciatic nerve problems for 6 agonizing months and it was so hard watching her suffer and feeling helpless because there is nothing you can do.
    Susan,

    DebM has never communicated with me whatsoever, and at this stage, I really would prefer that if she ever plans on getting online to communicate that she does it here at Websleuths on this public forum for all of you to be able to read, comment or ask questions directly to her.

    Thank you for the compliment also :-)

    ACR
    I respectfully ask not to be called "candy" or "rose" as my screen name is ACandyRose (aka ACR)
    Remember, when telling a secret, that your best friend may have a best friend who is not your best friend.

    Erica Lynn Parsons Missing Timeline (Salisbury, NC)
    http://www.acandyrose.com/erica_parsons_timeline.htm

    Drew Peterson Trial 07/31/12 (Will he get a 2nd Trial?)
    http://www.acandyrose.com/drew_peterson_names.htm
    Casey Anthony's 31 Days Timeline Archive
    http://www.acandyrose.com/casey_anthony_31days.htm
    JonBenet Ramsey Case History Archive
    http://www.acandyrose.com/s-Flight755-15thStreet.htm

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    Please continue here: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5118042#post5118042"]Found Deceased FL- missing lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare, last seen April '09. Found 1/28/10 #4 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

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