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    i really want to know where AS and DDM was going...when he said in the video "you ready", and then the second time..."you ready"...ACR and Bluemermaid...i know yall can find us a layout of this apartment...i just know you can...wasn't there an apt..on hwy60 over a garage...finally you can help us out there....i still feel i'm missing something in the video...and its driving me crazzzzzzy....imagine that...i've only looked at the video...i don't even know how many times....but, i still think i'm missing something
    .....we have never said i was smart....

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    Quote Originally Posted by joybell View Post
    i really want to know where AS and DDM was going...when he said in the video "you ready", and then the second time..."you ready"...ACR and Bluemermaid...i know yall can find us a layout of this apartment...i just know you can...wasn't there an apt..on hwy60 over a garage...finally you can help us out there....i still feel i'm missing something in the video...and its driving me crazzzzzzy....imagine that...i've only looked at the video...i don't even know how many times....but, i still think i'm missing something
    .....we have never said i was smart....
    5802 Hwy 60 does have one room over the garage, but not with windows like that. But then again, I was never in 5802 back in March, April of last year. At the end of summer was when I was first at either address, and that was 5732 at the time. But, we all have been told that there were all types of renovations, I think somewhere it even said windows were replaced/etc.
    Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, 'Where have I gone wrong?' Then a voice says to me, 'This is going to take more than one night.

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    Okay, I can see now what you guys are seeing. :-) Yes it does look like a curtain over a short doorway or a very low window, and yes there appears to be light coming from the other side of the curtain.

    *IF* this is one of the rooms for the "in law" or "maid" quarters above the free standing garage, it seems strange to me that the main control panel for the security cameras would then be located there. JMO.

    Here's some of my screen captures (enhanced) of that video:

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    joybell, I get that feeling of "missing something" too, from the video. But I try to just accept it as, IMO, this is what I say to myself "yes I am missing something, what I am missing is "THE TRUTH", because this video was done by DDM, as a cover up of claiming to help AS disappear, when in all actuality it was a cover up of DDM's plan to kill." But that is JMO and shared thoughts!
    Also, if I don't tell myself this, I, too, would overdose on this video!
    Last edited by Finally_; 03-08-2010 at 10:33 AM. Reason: added info
    Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, 'Where have I gone wrong?' Then a voice says to me, 'This is going to take more than one night.

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    ...here i am again, viewing the video...that look he threw at DDM...but when AS said "you bout ready", she says umm...and he says "you bout ready"....IMO this room doesn't look like it was lived in...by anyone...what's she doing up there in his room....imagine that...something.."hinkyyyyyyy"

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    i'm over this video...this will take a new set of eyes...i'm sure this was the last "interview" that AS was involved in....i wish they would let me go in the jail...undercover...(trust me it won't be the first time)...i would love to make friends with her in jail...

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    with my street smarts...and her...whatever...i really would love to be part of bring her all the way down...

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    Do we have ANY idea when more info will be released??

    Investigatingthecase, will you post on here and give us a heads up the next time info will be hitting the media? I have stopped watching it (several weeks ago) waiting for updates, but I don't wanna miss anything LOL

    I of course do not want to see anything in this case compromised due to releasing info too early, but I'm ready for SOMETHING!!!! WHat's the timeframe of releasing her jail phone calls/visits?? Anyone know? Anyone know why they wouldn't have already released them? I'm ready for NEW info!!!

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    http://www.wesh.com/video/22415183/index.html

    For those of you who may not have seen the full video of the interview DeeDee had with reporters just minutes before her arrest.
    I know it's old news, but some of you may not have seen it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigergal71 View Post
    Do we have ANY idea when more info will be released??

    Investigatingthecase, will you post on here and give us a heads up the next time info will be hitting the media? I have stopped watching it (several weeks ago) waiting for updates, but I don't wanna miss anything LOL

    I of course do not want to see anything in this case compromised due to releasing info too early, but I'm ready for SOMETHING!!!! WHat's the timeframe of releasing her jail phone calls/visits?? Anyone know? Anyone know why they wouldn't have already released them? I'm ready for NEW info!!!
    Dee Dee has a court date this Thursday at 10am.

    Case Number Event Description Date Start Time Judge Location Room
    10-CF-001733 ADVERSARY PRELIMINARY 03/11/2010 10:00:00 HEINRICH ANNEX 800 E KENNEDY, TAMPA CR15

    The only way I know of as to whether there will be discovery docs released on a case is either if the media tells us or following the court docket of the accused and look for docket entries that state something about "Discovery" being asked for or released or noting that somebody from the media requested discovery documents. So far, none of that is on Dee Dee's court record. At this point I'm not even sure she has an attorney as yet. :-P

    But I'll join you in the head banging department, I'm ready to watch or hear those jail house calls !

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    If DDM isn't able to secure an attorney on her own (no money or no one will represent her, whatever reason) would the court appoint an attorney? Was it ever said why/if the 2nd (I think it was the 2nd attorney) dropped her or the circumstance that led her to not having an attorney? Lastly, is it possible that the hearing (posted above by ACandyRose) on 3/11 could result in a 'court appointed attorney' being assigned?

    Sorry for not understanding protocol in the works of the court system.

    Thanks for all the work you all are doing here. Not commenting as often, but still following closely. Praying for justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyz_Mum View Post
    If DDM isn't able to secure an attorney on her own (no money or no one will represent her, whatever reason) would the court appoint an attorney? Was it ever said why/if the 2nd (I think it was the 2nd attorney) dropped her or the circumstance that led her to not having an attorney? Lastly, is it possible that the hearing (posted above by ACandyRose) on 3/11 could result in a 'court appointed attorney' being assigned?

    Sorry for not understanding protocol in the works of the court system.

    Thanks for all the work you all are doing here. Not commenting as often, but still following closely. Praying for justice.
    Hi Boyz Mum! Glad to see you around!
    I believe her attorney dropped her for her inability to pay him. This is just my opinion on the matter, though, so take it for what it's worth. Who knows, she could have blabbed everything to him, and I believe it's not ethical to defend someone if you know for a fact they committed the crime. That wouldn't surprise me if that was part of it anyway. Not sure why media hasn't questioned none of the attorneys who were representing her????
    Also, I believe it has already been stated that she will be appointed a public defender. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Her or her family doesn't have any money, and aside of profits she has acquired via Abraham Shakespeare, there is no money for an attorney. Even if someone's thought about the $50k check she requested from Stingray Chevrolet to be paid to her mother being for the defense attorney she would later need, the courts are not going to let her use that money.
    I don't understand the protocol of the court system either, as I am a law abiding citizen and have never had a reason to worry with the way things work in a criminal case such as this. (Thank goodness) We can just go on what we learn here, and from the media & LE. I just wish they'd throw us a bone! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyz_Mum View Post
    If DDM isn't able to secure an attorney on her own (no money or no one will represent her, whatever reason) would the court appoint an attorney? Was it ever said why/if the 2nd (I think it was the 2nd attorney) dropped her or the circumstance that led her to not having an attorney? Lastly, is it possible that the hearing (posted above by ACandyRose) on 3/11 could result in a 'court appointed attorney' being assigned?

    Sorry for not understanding protocol in the works of the court system.

    Thanks for all the work you all are doing here. Not commenting as often, but still following closely. Praying for justice.
    Here ya go, This is from the court docket:

    02/22/2010 D001 CRIM AFF APP INDIGENT STATUS Determined to be Indigent fee assessed. Form filed. The Public Defender is hereby appointed to the case listed above until relieved by the Court.

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    And lookie what I just found!!!!!

    http://publicrecord.hillsclerk.com/o...=1&pcFirst=DEE DEE&pcLast=MOORE&pcMi=&pcSuf=&pcId=@6821071&pcByea r=&pcPtyp=D001&pcDefStat=Opened&pdInit=05-MAR-10&pcCaseStat=Opened&pcCtyp=DT&pcLocn=PC&pcPref=&p cWarrant=&pcCaseDscr=DELINQUENT TENANT&pcDiv=Q&pcCourtType=&pnCaseYrFr=1970&pnCase YrTo=2010&pcCtypCL=&pcLocnCL=

    R & D Properties?? Maybe Richard & Dawn Land????

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigergal71 View Post
    And lookie what I just found!!!!!

    http://publicrecord.hillsclerk.com/o...=1&pcFirst=DEE DEE&pcLast=MOORE&pcMi=&pcSuf=&pcId=@6821071&pcByea r=&pcPtyp=D001&pcDefStat=Opened&pdInit=05-MAR-10&pcCaseStat=Opened&pcCtyp=DT&pcLocn=PC&pcPref=&p cWarrant=&pcCaseDscr=DELINQUENT TENANT&pcDiv=Q&pcCourtType=&pnCaseYrFr=1970&pnCase YrTo=2010&pcCtypCL=&pcLocnCL=

    R & D Properties?? Maybe Richard & Dawn Land????
    Wow, thanks for finding that !!

    R & D Properties of Brandon (Rajeev Thomas and Thomas K Alummoothill) are the ones who own the 5732 State Rd 60 house (the red house).

    I hope DebbieM got all her stuff out of that house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigergal71 View Post
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    "Now they took everything, said I can't use any of it,” wrote Dorice “DeeDee” Moore in court paperwork in which she claims to have access to only one bank account containing $100."
    I respectfully ask not to be called "candy" or "rose" as my screen name is ACandyRose (aka ACR)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigergal71 View Post
    Hi Boyz Mum! Glad to see you around!
    I believe her attorney dropped her for her inability to pay him. This is just my opinion on the matter, though, so take it for what it's worth. Who knows, she could have blabbed everything to him, and I believe it's not ethical to defend someone if you know for a fact they committed the crime. That wouldn't surprise me if that was part of it anyway. Not sure why media hasn't questioned none of the attorneys who were representing her????
    Also, I believe it has already been stated that she will be appointed a public defender. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Her or her family doesn't have any money, and aside of profits she has acquired via Abraham Shakespeare, there is no money for an attorney. Even if someone's thought about the $50k check she requested from Stingray Chevrolet to be paid to her mother being for the defense attorney she would later need, the courts are not going to let her use that money.
    I don't understand the protocol of the court system either, as I am a law abiding citizen and have never had a reason to worry with the way things work in a criminal case such as this. (Thank goodness) We can just go on what we learn here, and from the media & LE. I just wish they'd throw us a bone! LOL
    BBM

    From the CRA:

    "On March 2, 2009, Dee Dee Moore purchased a 2009 Hummer for approximately $90,000. On December 5, 2009, Dee Dee Moore took this vehicle to Stingray Chevrolet and told them she needed cash quickly and attempted to sell it to them for $49,000.00. They told her they were not interested due to the economy. William Smith, a friend of the owner of Stingray Chevrolet was present and offered to buy the Hummer himself. Dee Dee Moore agreed to sell it to him and requested that Mr. Smith call his bank so that she could cash the checks immediately. She also requested 3 separate checks from Mr. Smith, one for $5,000.00 in the name of Dee Dee Moore, one for $4,000.00 in the name of Linda Donegan (Dee Dee Moore's mother) and one for $40,000.00 in the name of Dee Dee Moore."

    That money is long gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigergal71 View Post
    And lookie what I just found!!!!!

    http://publicrecord.hillsclerk.com/o...=1&pcFirst=DEE DEE&pcLast=MOORE&pcMi=&pcSuf=&pcId=@6821071&pcByea r=&pcPtyp=D001&pcDefStat=Opened&pdInit=05-MAR-10&pcCaseStat=Opened&pcCtyp=DT&pcLocn=PC&pcPref=&p cWarrant=&pcCaseDscr=DELINQUENT TENANT&pcDiv=Q&pcCourtType=&pnCaseYrFr=1970&pnCase YrTo=2010&pcCtypCL=&pcLocnCL=

    R & D Properties?? Maybe Richard & Dawn Land????
    If it makes ya feel better, I thought that too the first time I saw it.

    ETA: GREAT catch, by the way! : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACandyRose View Post
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    "Now they took everything, said I can't use any of it,” wrote Dorice “DeeDee” Moore in court paperwork in which she claims to have access to only one bank account containing $100."
    Whine, whine, whine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue mermaid View Post
    BBM

    From the CRA:

    "On March 2, 2009, Dee Dee Moore purchased a 2009 Hummer for approximately $90,000. On December 5, 2009, Dee Dee Moore took this vehicle to Stingray Chevrolet and told them she needed cash quickly and attempted to sell it to them for $49,000.00. They told her they were not interested due to the economy. William Smith, a friend of the owner of Stingray Chevrolet was present and offered to buy the Hummer himself. Dee Dee Moore agreed to sell it to him and requested that Mr. Smith call his bank so that she could cash the checks immediately. She also requested 3 separate checks from Mr. Smith, one for $5,000.00 in the name of Dee Dee Moore, one for $4,000.00 in the name of Linda Donegan (Dee Dee Moore's mother) and one for $40,000.00 in the name of Dee Dee Moore."

    That money is long gone.
    OOOOPS my bad!!! I thought it was $50k with check made out to her mom! Got my wires totally crossed!! Thanks for the correction there!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACandyRose View Post
    Wow, thanks for finding that !!

    R & D Properties of Brandon (Rajeev Thomas and Thomas K Alummoothill) are the ones who own the 5732 State Rd 60 house (the red house).

    I hope DebbieM got all her stuff out of that house.
    And all this time, it hadn't occurred to me that someone else owned the red brick house. I think I thought they owned it as well as the tan one where the body was found. Never assume!! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACandyRose View Post
    Okay, I can see now what you guys are seeing. :-) Yes it does look like a curtain over a short doorway or a very low window, and yes there appears to be light coming from the other side of the curtain.

    *IF* this is one of the rooms for the "in law" or "maid" quarters above the free standing garage, it seems strange to me that the main control panel for the security cameras would then be located there. JMO.

    Here's some of my screen captures (enhanced) of that video:

    http://www.acandyrose.com/abraham_shakespeare-video.htm

    ACR
    BBM

    IF he's living in the apt, and nobody is living in the main house at the time, then why wouldn't he move the controls to his living quarters?

    Which doesn't address whether it's a live recording or not. It could be given this scenario, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigergal71 View Post
    And all this time, it hadn't occurred to me that someone else owned the red brick house. I think I thought they owned it as well as the tan one where the body was found. Never assume!! LOL
    I knew I had seen their names on another company...

    R & D LAND INVESTMENTS INC.
    Registered Agent Name & Address
    LAND, RICHARD
    1323 S. ST. CLOUD AVE.
    VALRICO FL 33594
    Officer/Director Detail
    Name & Address
    Title P
    LAND, RICHARD
    1323 S. ST. CLOUD AVE.
    VALRICO FL 33594
    Title V
    LAND, DAWN
    1323 S. ST. CLOUD AVE.
    VALRICO FL 33594

    ETA: I think I confused "Land Investments" with "Properties" way back when...
    Last edited by blue mermaid; 03-08-2010 at 06:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyz_Mum View Post
    If DDM isn't able to secure an attorney on her own (no money or no one will represent her, whatever reason) would the court appoint an attorney? Was it ever said why/if the 2nd (I think it was the 2nd attorney) dropped her or the circumstance that led her to not having an attorney? Lastly, is it possible that the hearing (posted above by ACandyRose) on 3/11 could result in a 'court appointed attorney' being assigned?

    Sorry for not understanding protocol in the works of the court system.

    Thanks for all the work you all are doing here. Not commenting as often, but still following closely. Praying for justice.
    The Sixth Amendment to the US Constitution states that every person has a right to an attorney and if they can't afford one then the court will appoint one for them for their defense. So nobody accused of a crime in the US ever goes to court without legal representation.

    It looks like she's already been appointed a public defender so this court hearing could be just a status hearing to introduce the new attorney to the courts and reschedule a new court date for whatever else they have to do.

    But once she *officially* has an attorney, then odds are that attorney is going to request discovery materials from the prosecution so the defense can find out what materials the prosecution has. Under Florida Sunshine Law, once that discovery is requested and released to her attorney, then it's released to the public as well.

    I'm not sure how and when Hillsborough County will do it, but following the Caylee Anthony case (In Orange County), where over 12,000 public discovery documents have already been released, it was usually a week or so after Casey Anthony's attorney got the discovery before the media or public was also allowed access to the same docments. The media in Orange County has been right on top of providing public docments on that case.

    But then on the flip side, on the Billings murder case (in Escambia County), those prosecutors release the first discovery documents right away, although it's been slow going after that and for some reason the media in that county appears to be dragging their feet to provide continued public documents.

    I am so hoping the media in both Polk County and Hillsborough County are on top of making the discovery documents available to the public. But anybody local can also go to the court house in Tampa and pick up public released discovery documents once they're available.

    Sorry, I know this is more than you asked. :-)

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