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    update on the search

    Police look for missing Texas exec in New Orleans

    By MARY FOSTER Associated Press Writer 2010 The Associated Press
    March 8, 2010, 9:27PM


    NEW ORLEANS Police scoured the French Quarter on Monday and checked with businesses for surveillance videotapes of a Texas energy executive who disappeared after walking out of a Bourbon Street bar.

    About 30 detectives were looking for Douglas Schantz, 54, who was last seen leaving the Razzoo Bar and Patio about 2 a.m. Friday.

    "It's unusual," said Assistant Police Superintendent Marlon Defillo. "There has been no activity on his credit cards, his cell phone."

    Police have set up command in a French Quarter hotel and they're getting help from the FBI and federal marshals, he said. The Coast Guard has searched the Mississippi River.

    Crimestoppers increased its reward for information on Schantz's whereabouts from $5,000 to $25,000 for a limited time, the agency said.

    Schantz, president of Houston-based Sequent Energy Management, was in New Orleans to give Tulane University a $25,000 gift during a reception Thursday. After the dinner, he and colleagues went to Bourbon Street at about midnight, said Mark Homestead, a senior vice president who was with Schantz.

    Schantz had not had too much to drink and he left the bar before the rest of the group, Homestead said.

    "We didn't think anything of it," he said.

    No one realized Schantz was missing until he didn't turn up for a meeting the next day.

    Videos show he left the Bourbon Street bar and headed toward the river.

    Texas Equusearch was headed to New Orleans late Monday to do a sonar search of the river.

    "We'll also have people checking the shoreline in case he did go into the river and washes up somewhere," said Tim Miller, president and founder of Equusearch.


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    Sequent Energy is such an impressive company. I went to their website and was really impressed. Mr. Schantz is the President of that company. There are over 2,100 employees. This man did not get where he is in that company easily. He is a very impressive man.
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    Texas Mist, this last article states that Mr. Schantz left the bar before the rest of the group. If he is to be found in New Orleans, TES will find him, IMO.

    Why is it that news reporters vary in their story?
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    I am thinking this case could go in 2 ways....either he was mugged and was tossed into a dumpster in an alley ? or he planned his exit into oblivion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaLaw2000 View Post
    Texas Mist, this last article states that Mr. Schantz left the bar before the rest of the group. If he is to be found in New Orleans, TES will find him, IMO.

    Why is it that news reporters vary in their story?
    I was so relieved to hear TES was in NOLA....GB Tim -- he's trying to be everywhere for everybody within the past week it seems.

    As far as Schantz leaving before the other guys, that's what I've been reading....that he was hanging out at the bar then just left....maybe when he's out w/ the guys he doesn't really say he's leaving verbally - and just gives them an "I'm outta here guys" signal....it just never sounds like that to me....it sounds like they've all been out together before & Schantz just leaves....maybe when he gets tired after a long day he's just not talkative & when he's ready to go, he's ready & doesn't wanna talk because the guys would try to talk him into staying longer....maybe he gets disgusted w/ the way the other guys act...there are some men who loosen their morals when on the road, IME....just speculating on this, of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by crocus View Post
    I am thinking this case could go in 2 ways....either he was mugged and was tossed into a dumpster in an alley ? or he planned his exit into oblivion.
    That's pretty much where I am, crocus....Ya'd think if there was a kidnapping for ransom, LE wouldn't have TM bringing in sonar equipment....And ya'd think if his body was in the FQ it woulda been found by now...IDK -- maybe the locals can weigh in on this.

    Or, maybe someone took him away from the FQ & it's just gonna take longer to find him.

    I don't like to be so morbid - but is there a 'dumping' place in/around NOLA? I ask because there's a 'favorite' dump spot just off IH-10 between Houston & Beaumont...it's about halfway & it's close to the Trinity River & near a big Corps of Engineers reservoir....lotsa gators there so I guess bodies get dumped there hoping they'll be taken care of by animals before they're discovered.

    And yeah, I'm still mulling over the 'disappeared on purpose' scenario...I need to go find the website I saw last nite...some specialists in Guatemala help people disappear - gives a good idea of what it takes to go underground & requires leaving the country & living lowkey....they can set up accounts to get one's money moved over...I'll see if I can find it & post the link...I think it's worth the read if not for this case, for future cases.

    BRB.

    ETA: found the professional disappearers site http://www.panamalaw.org/how_to_disa...rotection.html
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    Okay, if Mr. Schantz was standing at the bar, then someone most likely had a conversation with him. The bartender would remember him, I would think. In looking at the pictures of the bar at the website, it does look to me to be a bar where quite a lot of young people go to have a good time. The waitresses look nice and kind of like a casual Hooter's type. It is not a trashy place from what I can see.

    I am kind of thinking we just have not heard all there is to his time away from his friends in the bar.

    Another thing I cannot help but wonder is if his passport and important documents are still at home in Houston and if there has been any problems at all in his marriage. Mr. Schantz son and daughter have made statements, but we have not heard from his wife.

    I am certainly hoping that TES and Tim Miller can locate him if he is to be found.

    Now I will stop speculating and wait for the news.
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    Yes, Texas Mist, there are so many places where a body could be dumped. There is the river, and there is Lake Pontchartrain (sp.). One of my brothers owns a camp on the northern side of that lake, and the lake is huge. Lots of gators and snakes. To me, that side of the lake is very scary in areas. We have gone out on his pontoon boat and I could not wait to get back on dry land!

    But known dumping ground for bodies? Bessie would know.
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    This dude is a good size, knew the city well, no "warning" bells with associates. Somehow this all seems planned out. I think we are in the dark about a lot of background info.

    Would like to see his company's portfolio, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crocus View Post
    This dude is a good size, knew the city well, no "warning" bells with associates. Somehow this all seems planned out. I think we are in the dark about a lot of background info.

    Would like to see his company's portfolio, etc.
    In order to plan and execute a perfect disappearance, i.e. have all new identity papers, etc, is not impossible but very expensive to procure. Sure Schantz had the resources to have pulled it off and it is possible that is what he did.

    Still as a wealthy corporate executive, he would have been leaving behind a fortune in order to pursue this alterego. That would seem to me to be off the charts irrational. Let's assume he had a miserable marriage. In his situation divorce would have been very expensive. Many people in that socioeconomic level don't get divorced because of the cost. Instead it is cheaper for many of them to keep mistresses.

    I am not saying that Schantz had a bad marriage or a mistress. It does appear to me however, that he acted like a frat boy when visiting New Orleans. His work cohorts say it was not unsual for him to disappear when traveling. Do you notice how it seems no one ever asked him where he runs off to? Q - So what does that mean? A - When the cat's away the mouse will play.

    I don't say these things from a morality standpoint. He's an adult and can do what he wants. I'm just saying that what some people think passes for fun can have major repercussions if something goes wrong.


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    A word about Razoo. I've stopped in numerous times throughout the years, and LALaw is correct in that it's a fun, busy place. This is not a shady bar on some side street; it's one of the loudest, busiest spots on Bourbon to be sure. There's usually karaoke in the front, and several different bars throughout. It has very strict bouncers, who I've personally seen escort people out.

    However, the last time I was there (about a year ago), I did have a frighteneing experience because my boyfriend thinks he was drugged there -- and he thinks it was probably intended for MY drink, not his. We each had a drink in one of those plastic go-cups, and he left me standing at a table alone to go to the restroom for a few minutes. He came back, we finished our drinks and went back to our hotel. He completely blacked out and doesn't remember a thing until the next morning. He can hold his alcohol fine, and I've never seen him like that. We had maybe 3 drinks the whole night, so he wasn't overly intoxicated. He's actually a police officer in another town, and he feels certain this is what happened.

    I hope that Mr. Schantz didn't have a similar experience, where perhaps he was disoriented by a drug that was intended for someone else. I'm so worried for him.


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    Another surveillance vid has surfaced. He is seen walking down some streets:

    http://tinyurl.com/yf5mba3


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    Quote Originally Posted by bessie View Post
    I figured that's what happened when I looked at the map later. I wanted to stress how close the Sonesta is to Razoo's. We're talking two very short blocks along a pedestrian mall. So there's no way he was looking for a cab to take him back to the hotel. I can say, in all honesty, I would not be afraid to walk alone from Razoo's to the Sonesta , but I grew up near the Quarter and have roamed those streets night and day. That said, I'd have my head up and my shoulders back, and I'd be searching the eyes of everyone around me the same way I would walking down any busy, city street.

    The answer to your question I bolded is there are no set hours. NOLA is a 24 hour town.

    A few things I've read in the news reports that stood out to me:

    • according to his son, he feared nothing and would not be afraid to venture into seedier parts of the city
    • he and his colleagues came for the weekend "to let their hair down"
    • he stayed behind at the bar after his friends left
    • according to one friend, it was not uncommon for him to separate from the group

    That makes me think he he left of his own accord and had a destination in mind. You noted that he was seen on the corner of Bourbon and Toulouse which is in the opposite direction from the Sonesta. If I wanted to find a taxi on Bourbon St, that's where I'd look first because there's a cab stand there. He might've known that from previous visits.
    So where did he go? I have two thoughts:

    • to a rendevouz with a person he met here on a previous visit and this time something went awry, or;
    • to one of the little clubs in the Marigny or the Bywater.

    Visitors who fall in love with a city the way his son says he did with New Orleans usually look for "the real deal", places where they can eat and drink with the locals. The Marigny is just outside the Quarter, across Esplanade Ave. It's a late night spot where one can hear "real" local music until all hours. One club comes to mind which is a favorite with the late, late night crowd. (My husband gets angry with me because I always want to stop in there after a night out. It's a true den of iniquity, and I like to sit back and observe.) A man looking to feed his vices would hit the jackpot there. The Bywater is an old NOLA neighborhood, very colorful and bohemian. Post-K, it has come alive with galleries, cafes and a few great all night clubs. Unfortunately, at this time, it's also a high crime area. It wouldn't be a stretch to think someone spiked his drink and then offered to drive him to his hotel. I find it strange that there has been no activity on his credit cards, though.

    I feel awful for him and his family. They've been on my mind all day. I pray they have an answer soon.


    I haven't finished reading to the end of the thread, but two things to correct from this information.
    1. They were NOT there for the weekend, they arrived on Thursday for the purpose of making the presentation of the money to Tulane. They were all due back in Houston for a meeting on Friday at noon. So, none of them had planned to stay for the weekend.
    2. He left the bar first, the others stayed behind.

    This information has been consistent in all of the articles, so I am sure it is correct.

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    It's not that easy to dump a body in the river. You have to cross the levee, for one thing, and there aren't many ramps you can drive across. The river and levees are also well-policed. Certainly a possibility, though. Lake Pontchartrain is another possibility. For many years, Almonaster Rd. in the eastern section of New Orleans was the place where bodies would often be found. Since Katrina, there is so much blighted property right in the city that a body could rot for months in an abandoned house and no one would notice. I heard the tail end of a local news report that mentioned the discovery of a burned body believed to be a man. I'm not implying the incident had anything to do with Schantz, but it is a likely scenario, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webrocket View Post
    Another surveillance vid has surfaced. He is seen walking down some streets:

    http://tinyurl.com/yf5mba3
    Thanks! It appears he did not catch a cab at Bourbon and Toulouse. New map. This is his known route so far.

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...03428&t=h&z=18


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    I wonder if the video shows him sober or inebriated?


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