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I have a couple of questions for you. I noticed in an earlier post you said the body was found with the feet in the stream, then later near the river. Could you please clarify this for us? Was it hidden in the brush or at the edge of the brush line? I am a little confused.
You said that you drive past the house at least four times per week. Do you work at CB? I know that there is a lot of construction, with some interior painting going on year around.
Just one small correction: you keep talking about the property being owned by a construction company in (2008/2009) According to public records; in 2007 the property is listed as owned by a private party, who does not live in Central Washington. In 2010 the property is listed as owned by a development company, I assume after the repossession. In 2006 it appears that it was owned by the company you keep talking about.
Again thanks for being our eyes in Central Washington.
Something else I thought of in relation to meeting someone down at the boat dock. The Link transfer station is right there! The male passenger could quite easily have been using Link (bus) to get around and just walked to the boat ramp from the transfer station. Also, after ditching her car. Might have had to walk at first, but Link does have a route up that way, although it is seasonal for Mission Ridge Ski area.
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I have known people that are very active in their lifestyle, (such as Mackenzie was) that do drugs. I have known people that nobody would suspect of doing drugs, yet they do. So you really never know what might be going on behind the scenes in someones life.
on a "drive by" a certain residence, past two sheriff cars, and noticed a black pick up in the driveway. Anyone know who in the fam drives a Sienna CT?
anyone know what vehicle JF drives... (assuming he wasn't in the shiny new one )
Just to clarify my remarks about the drugs angle.
Yes, I know teens do drugs. Yes, I know that teens sell drugs. No, I'm not naive or insulated from the world just because I don't agree with the drug angle.
What I'm saying is that just because we haven't received as much information from investigators as we'd like, there's no reason to create information that reflects badly on the VICTIM here. Sometimes terrible things happen to good people who in no way were responsible for the tragedy that befell them.
Sometimes people drink coffee because they like the taste. Sometimes people have a lot of energy because they're young, fit, and have a great outlook on life.
If we were to believe every grapevine rumor that's been repeated about Mackenzie here on WS, then she'd be a drug-abusing, pregnant gangster involved in a love triangle with her mother's husband.
Am I saying that none of that's true? No. I'm simply saying that WE DON'T KNOW YET.
If you fling enough poo at the wall, sooner or later some of it will stick.
I completely respect your view on this. However IMO the information we received about the boat dock being a common place for drug transactions, along with the car wash being another place used for more private transactions. I think this is a more likely scenario than some of the others that are flying around. This website is here so we can all give our own theories and ideas. There have been many, some I agree with, some I dont. But I read and respect them all. Of course this is all MOO only.
As far as the drug angle goes . . . it has been reported that MC was bullied and teased DAILY yet she was upbeat and happy. My question is how does one stay happy and upbeat while being teased and taunted daily? Perhaps with some pharmaceutical help? Prescription drug usage is VERY prevalent in our community among the teens and young adults (I got this info from a drug counselor . . . I had no idea). She wouldn't necessarily look like a druggie and would/could be highly functional. This is just MOO. I also keep going back to the "on the surface" statement from LE and the sexual relationship she had at 13. Why does a girl of 13 become sexually active? I believe she suffered from an extremely low self-esteem and any attention from a male, be it a gang member, older guy, dealer, whatever, she would be attracted to and might place herself in a dangerous situation without realizing it. My heart goes out to MC because she was the product of her situation (family/learning disabilities/speech impediment/overbite) that I believe ultimately caused her demise. My anger is with the people who took advantage of her, whomever they might be. JM
Blessings to all of you on this forum. You all have big hearts; wonderful wit and super smarts! Rock On!
Does anyone have any insight into who was teasing her? I'm still sticking with my jealousy theory.
I'm keeping an open mind, but I've yet to read anything about the park other than it seems like a place where townspeople gather for lots of festivals and other events, and it seems to be used by all segments of Wenatchee society, from church groups to canoers. I'm open to any proof that it's a haven for drug activity. I've just not seen any yet.
If there were anything...ANYTHING...at all about Mackenzie's history of lifestyle that indicated drug use, then I might see this differently. But anecdotal stories about people's own friends, family members, and associates who use/sell drugs is not proof that Mackenzie was involved in the same.
There would be so many speculations put to rest if only LE could give us more information. Such as telling us if drugs were involved or not. They don't have to give details, but if they could just say (assuming LE knows) that drugs were not involved, we could at least throw out the drug buying theory.
From the You Tube video above (1:26/1:27) I still don't see this area as a "walkable" beach..What am I missing?
I believe most parents (especially a Mom not matter how devastated) would make a public plea not for the killer to come forward (please how often does that happen?) but to beg for any & all info that may help to find the killer of their child..It doesn't have to be on national tv (NG, HLN) but local where any info would come from anyway & in this case such a small community wouldn't even warrant national exposure..To say it would hurt the investigation I think is BS..Even if they already have a poi how does this hurt? It actually helps to throw them off the track.
It's actually more suspicious not to hear from family (it's become so common recently) & from what I've seen it seems to be the cause for so much speculation about mom & bf..IOW!..It's backfired IMHO
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I guess I have another hunch that this wasn't premeditated, (mostly for what I see as a lack of motive), therefor no reason not to just call her. (Police are pulling records of all the family/friends I think because he did use his cell phone to call her to setup this meet).
If/unless/until we can get some verifiable info that MC had some involvement in extracurricular activities which she would want secret, I'm starting to think it wasn't some secret meeting. Simply a family member or well known friend of the family who would have wanted a ride that day. (That leaves open whether or not there was a relationship between him and MC but that would only play into the motive for the "ride home"). Even the aunt appears to have gotten wind of this meeting very early on? That makes me think it wasn't the secret meeting just something the police don't want made public and have told the family not to tell anyone either. Another reason family wouldn't be making public appeals - they would practically have to lie because most know exactly who she was last suppose to be with. I know I would really want to call this bastard out! In fact, if I was the father those sheriff cars recently seen would need to be there to protect the bastard, (hint: they would fail).
I find it hard that after 4 weeks keeping this info from the public is still helping the investigation. He's already given his alibi a dozen times, (and probably changed it that many times too). He knew from early on he was a suspect, ("suspect" just not being used in the legal capacity... yet).
I do really like the angle of him dropping car off at tire shop or some such, and that being why he wanted the ride. (Although that leaves him without his ride, maybe he has an extra? - could the extra be the "NOT a new pick up" sitting in the driveway which someone possibly recently viewed on a possible drive by of the unknown residence???)
Also, if he was smart??? he might have stopped using his cell phone as soon as the murder took place, (left it at home during the moving of body and the transfer of MCs car to Pitcher Canyon). Therefore he called the scummy friend he knows asking for a ride out of the canyon from payphone or such. If he wasn't eye-witnessed with this scummy friend on the drive home and didn't make the call for the ride from a phone he can be tracked to, the situation becomes his word against the scummy friends word. (That would be wise thinking if the scummy friend has a long record - whose the jury gonna believe?)
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But yes, walking on that "beach" I think would not be done very often. It is not what most people would picture as a walk on the beach. Another reason I think the killer didn't want the body found.
[QUOTE=*Intrigued*;4893971 I believe she is a grieving mom that wants her privacy. I also believe that she knows who has done this and that is the main reason she has not put in any of her own money for the reward fund.
That's right!! Why would she reward her daughter's killer?
is it possible to trace a licence plate number? (legally)