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    MI - Dakotah Eliason, 14, charged with shooting sleeping grandfather, Berrien County

    Fourteen year old shoots sleeping grandfather, and will be charged as an adult.

    http://www.southbendtribune.com/arti...70/0/FRONTPAGE



    The grandfather dies of his injuries.


    http://www.southbendtribune.com/arti...68/0/FRONTPAGE
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    he's being charged with first degree murder, but they havn't said what the prosecutor will ask for in penalties yet.

    Fourteen is so young

    My grandson is in the same area, and knows someone who knows the boy and my grandson was concerned about what happens when a kid is charged with first degree murder......

    because he's being charged as an adult... it will depend on the prosecutor
    and trial outcome.

    I can't even type the worst possible.
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    What a shame.

    He won't get the DP if that is your worst possible, LawRig. No one under 16 can get it in the US due to a US Supreme Court Ruling. The most severe sentence would be Life Without Parole, if they have that in Michigan and if Michigan law allows it for someone that age.






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    thank you ~ yes it was what I was worried about.

    everyone is saying this was a great kid before this happened.

    just makes me sick.
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    I wonder what happened? The article says the kid was just visiting - so he didn't live there, correct? Why would he shoot his grandfather? And who was the other person in the home? I wonder what they have to say about what happened?

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    I havent been able to find out any more info. so I don't know who called it in.

    he was just visiting

    he was by all accounts (a couple of his peers agree) a "great" kid.. they said something made him snap.

    another family member was the other person who called

    and no body knows why this happened, by family accounts, it was a complete and utter surprise and the grandfather was well esteemed in the family.

    (this was gleaned from comments from family members following the articles and friends of the boy, not in print, discussed personally).

    This is particularly scarey to the other kids because this is completely out of character for him, from what I understand.
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    Charged as an adult for his grandfather's murder

    BERRIEN COUNTY, Mich. (NEWSCHANNEL 3) A West Michigan teenager has been charged as an adult in the killing of his grandfather.

    The murder took place early Sunday morning in Niles. Investigators say fourteen-year-old Dakotah Eliason shot his 69-year-old grandfather, Jesse Miles, while he slept.

    Miles later died at the hospital.

    Eliason's arraignment took place Monday.

    Appearing by video conference, Eliason heard the charges against him. The teen has been charged with murder after police say he shot his grandfather in the head while he slept.

    The grandmother reportedly called 911, and Miles was taken to a hospital in Indiana where he died.

    So far, police have not released any motive for the shooting, they did say the teen often visited his grandparents.


    more here

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    This case reminds me of the Andrew Conley case--the seventeen year old Indiana teen who "snapped" and murdered his 10 year old brother. I'm going to be very interested to see what possible mitigating factors or motive shows up here.

    My mind runs wild but I think of the possibilities of sexual abuse, domestic violence, onset of mental illness, the starting or stopping of a psychotropic drug....and the availability of a gun.

    Once again, I turn back to one of my favorite resources, "The Primal Teen" by Barbara Strauch. Irrefutable evidence that teens are only half-baked...literally.
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    I am sorry for the loss of the grandfather , all family involved, and that this boy felt the need to kill him. " He was a good kid" and then snapped ?
    I certainly wonder if this boy was or had been molested by the grandfather at some point in his life, there is usally an underlying issue that triggers this kind of action ...moo
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    BREAKING: 14-year-old to be tried as adult
    Posted 6 hours, 51 minutes ago at 1:14 pm.


    Appearing before Judge Scott Schofield via satellite, Dakotah Eliason, 14, seemed aware but emotionless as he was informed that he would face charges of murder in the shooting death of his paternal grandfather, Jesse Miles, early Sunday morning.

    Eliason’s parents, Steven Eliason and Mary Apfel were obviously distraught over the arraignment of their son, saying they had heard on television he would be tried as an adult.

    Being advised of his rights, Schofield told Eliason, “you are being charged with murder,” as well as felony possession of a firearm, which carries a maximum sentence of two years in prison. The maximum penalty for murder is life in prison.

    Schofield said Eliason would receive a court-appointed attorney and set bond at $100,000. A pre-exam conference was scheduled for Friday morning and a preliminary exam was set for Tuesday, March 16.

    Michigan State Police report they received a 911 call at approximately 3 a.m. Sunday of a shooting at the Miles’ home at 3120 Niles-Buchanan Rd., in Niles Township.

    According to the prosecutor’s office, there police found Miles with an apparent gunshot wound to the head. Miles was transported to the St. Joseph County Medical Center in South Bend where he later died

    http://www.nilesstar.com/2010/03/08/...t-14-year-old/
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysticrose View Post
    I am sorry for the loss of the grandfather , all family involved, and that this boy felt the need to kill him. " He was a good kid" and then snapped ?
    I certainly wonder if this boy was or had been molested by the grandfather at some point in his life, there is usually an underlying issue that triggers this kind of action ...moo
    I think it is a little premature to blame the victim. Plenty of youthful offenders these days are killing family members for the most trivial of reasons. Some don't even have to have a motive other than wanting to know how it feels to murder someone.

    With kids killing left and right it seems for not wanting to do chores it wouldn't surprise me that the grandfather had him do a chore while he was there and the boy got ticked off about it or he may have wanted to go somewhere and his grandfather told him the forbidden word "NO."

    I don't think he snapped at all and we hear so often that the youthful murder defendant was a "good kid."

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    all i'll say is a lot of women who say they were battered wives kill the husband the same way, while he is sleeping

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    I noticed that the family were hunters and outdoors people. I found a man who could be a relative on MS. Typical nice seeming guy--three boys, single, hunts, fishes, extended family. Right town so possibly an uncle. So, the boy knew how to use a gun and how to access one.

    But why kill your grandpa at 3 am while he slept? Coming home after curfew and an altercation? ITA, that it could be for something totally trivial. Could be. I hope not.

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    I don't know what motivated the boy to shoot his grandfather but I know for certain not all grandparents are nice.

    My mother was abusive to me and my sibs and for that reason we don't let our kids spend time there without us. I'm not going to explain it all but we still see her, talk to her, help her but she was never kind, caring, loving. Now that she does not have physical strength over us she uses sarcasm, criticism, humiliation. Why do we have anything to do with her? We ask ourselves that all the time. Guilt I guess (she uses the "poor me" excuse) and fear - the fear that was instilled in us as we were growing up and being whipped with belts, locked out of the house, yanked around by our hair, slapped. Anyway the point I want to make is people in the community thought and still think she is nice. No one knows how people are at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbl8201 View Post
    all i'll say is a lot of women who say they were battered wives kill the husband the same way, while he is sleeping
    We couldn't begin to count the victims who were totally defenseless and laying in their own beds sleeping when murdered.

    It runs the gambit from men murdering their wives or entire families as they slept..to women murdering their husbands or children as they slept......to youthful offenders murdering their family members while they were sleeping.

    Murderers are cowards at heart imo. Much easier to prey on someone who is totally unaware of their impending doom.

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