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    IL - Debbie Fijan, age 10, abducted and murdered in DuPage County, Feb 1966 - #2

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    Debbie Fijan age 10 abducted and murdered Feb 1966 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


    ETA: Loren F. Schofield has never been officially cleared as the primary suspect in this case. According to MSM and local history research, the prime suspects father was in local politics at the time and supplied the county jail with fresh eggs from his farm. The family history went back to the early settlers in a tight then farming community on what was then the rural outskirts of suburban Chicago.

    Both the primary suspect and his wife admit to destroying evidence in this case, pornography left in his desk which LS later returned to the school to burnt in the schools incinerator and sometime later his wife admitted to LE she burnt his clothing, presumably the clothing he wore the day Debbie was murdered.

    Debbies body was found within view of the primary suspects fathers farm.

    DuPage County added this case to their cold case unit after reviewing unsolved cases they deemed solvable.

    What has changed since 1966 and how can we at Websleuths help bring justice to this young child and her family who have been waiting almost a half century for Justice.

    Much much more in thread one. Worth reading both threads in this cold case awaiting justice after 45 years.

    If you have any information that may assist police with this case, please contact the DuPage County Sheriff’s office 630-407-2400.


    Those interested in Justice for Debbie Fijan, please join us for the discussion on Debbies unsolved case. Someone knows, and the answers are still out there for Justice for Debbie.

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    I was just thinking......

    Let's not forget there is that sticky at the top of the cold case forum regarding NBC's Dateline looking for stories.
    Attention Websleuthers. Nbc's Dateline Is Looking For Leads - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


    Debbies case might make for a fantastic dateline story. Will have to give this some thought.... and of course some feedback from Debbies family. And it too would depend on how willing DuPage would be to work with NBC's dateline or a similiar show.
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    Interestingly there is a listing for ROM at the social securty death index.


    RICHARD MACEK 15 Mar 1947 Mar 1987 53963 (Waupun, Dodge, WI) (none specified)
    356-40-1658 Illinois


    With a March 1947 birth date, Debbies murder would have occured 1 month prior to his 19th birthday.

    I looked it up because I wondered if at 18, he would have still be in HS at the time of Debbies murder, but with this DOB, if he graduated HS it would have been in 65 if he graduated with his class.
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    Maybe a difference in Maceks victims and Debbies case.




    http://books.google.com/books?id=WW2...0macek&f=false

    Page 47 in the above link Dr. Morrison talks about Kandels case (which she mistakenly refers to out of McHenry County, when it was actually in DuPage County) and refers to Maceks description of how Kandels body was found. She talks about how Macek lied his victims bodies out to appear as if they were alive.

    This is the only reference I have seen to this so far.... and I don't know the position the rest of Maceks victims bodies were found, but if he laid them to appear alive, Debbie was found face down which would appear to not match the murders Macek commited in the 70's.
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    Later in the above link, page 48, Morrison goes on to say she never attached Macek to crimes other than the Kandel murder. It would be interesting to know if she discussed with him his earlier crimes, crimes for which he may never have been arrested.
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    Cubby, Dateline is a great idea or 20/20 etc. Also it is a very nice gesture of you to make Debbie your avatar.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    Maybe a difference in Maceks victims and Debbies case.




    http://books.google.com/books?id=WW2...0macek&f=false

    Page 47 in the above link Dr. Morrison talks about Kandels case (which she mistakenly refers to out of McHenry County, when it was actually in DuPage County) and refers to Maceks description of how Kandels body was found. She talks about how Macek lied his victims bodies out to appear as if they were alive.

    This is the only reference I have seen to this so far.... and I don't know the position the rest of Maceks victims bodies were found, but if he laid them to appear alive, Debbie was found face down which would appear to not match the murders Macek commited in the 70's.
    This could actually fit in with the theory of progression. If Debbie were his first murder victim. we could expect to see an increase in brutality, and also the details associated with his need to blur the line between life and death. Its possible that Sally was the first victim he bit, as well. Debbie may have simply been in the wrong place at the wrong time, when the need to assault overcame Macek and he needed a victim. His "signatures" may have developed afterward.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    Later in the above link, page 48, Morrison goes on to say she never attached Macek to crimes other than the Kandel murder. It would be interesting to know if she discussed with him his earlier crimes, crimes for which he may never have been arrested.
    In the book, Morrison states that she believes Macek had killed 8 women by 1976, but doesn't go into any detail whatsoever. Unfortunately, thats one of the hallmarks of the book. Teasers, but no details.


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    Macek's arrest report from '66 might contain some useful info, such as what kind of car he was operating, if LE would ever happen to take an interest in looking......


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowangel View Post
    This could actually fit in with the theory of progression. If Debbie were his first murder victim. we could expect to see an increase in brutality, and also the details associated with his need to blur the line between life and death. Its possible that Sally was the first victim he bit, as well. Debbie may have simply been in the wrong place at the wrong time, when the need to assault overcame Macek and he needed a victim. His "signatures" may have developed afterward.

    Good points and I agree. Something just stood out to me about Debbie laying face down...

    It is possible Debbie was his first victim and there are other victims between 1966 and 1972 which nobody knows about.

    I'm just trying to tie in the reported 1968 stabbing ROM did 3 years for in Joliet... which we can't find a thing about

    ...and Dr. Morrisons reporting that ROMS 'troubles' began about the time of his fathers death. If that is not a disputed statement of Dr. Morrisons... I'm kind of confused on that statement if she said that, or if she said that in context with explaining how she disagreed with LE trying to find a reason why- he was abused, neglected kind of thing.... IIRC it was also in the links I posted a few posts back....) In other words what did she mean by Maceks rampage began when his father died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowangel View Post
    Macek's arrest report from '66 might contain some useful info, such as what kind of car he was operating, if LE would ever happen to take an interest in looking......
    I can't think of a reason they wouldn't be interested, unless they have solid evidence someone other than ROM commited the murder -or- had already looked at and ruled ROM ( which I don't think they did, especially since it took DuPage - what 20 years to accept the fact that Milone did not murder Sally Kandel? )

    Gotta Love DuPage County. (and that is the second time someone has posted that at WS today. I wasn't the first... )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    Good points and I agree. Something just stood out to me about Debbie laying face down...

    It is possible Debbie was his first victim and there are other victims between 1966 and 1972 which nobody knows about.

    I'm just trying to tie in the reported 1968 stabbing ROM did 3 years for in Joliet... which we can't find a thing about

    ...and Dr. Morrisons reporting that ROMS 'troubles' began about the time of his fathers death. If that is not a disputed statement of Dr. Morrisons... I'm kind of confused on that statement if she said that, or if she said that in context with explaining how she disagreed with LE trying to find a reason why- he was abused, neglected kind of thing.... IIRC it was also in the links I posted a few posts back....) In other words what did she mean by Maceks rampage began when his father died.
    Ive read the book, and I still can't sort out the contradictions. Macek started getting in trouble with the law in grade school, so I'm not sure what his father's death was supposed to mean to him...Unless she means to say his level of violence escalated afterward.


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    This is probably completely wishful thinking but it would be really nice if both Morrison and Tomaselli joined us here at WS to discuss this..... Even for a question and answer only thread kind of thing. We could set up a whole thread just for questions and answers for and from the two of them.
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    Maybe the contradictions are a science thing?
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    I'd just like to be able to create a fairly realistic timeline for ROM. I think it would give any suggestion to the media about doing a story a lot more weight.


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