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    Quote Originally Posted by Lil'E View Post
    Before I read your post I thought this poor girl has a moustache burn, from being forcibly kissed by a male with course stubble, but now that you have pointied out a possible tape line, I clearly see it. She is a hauntingly beautiful girl, I hope we find that she is alive and well.
    Im certain it was tape (or something sticky) - we kind of went back and forth about the area around her mouth as it could have been a million things that could have caused it (even shadows) but then I found strand of her hair actually sticking to the other side of her face in the photo of her. The photo is below and it makes me 99.9% certain her mouth was was taped.

    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Girl with dark long hair and fur coat.

    This photo bugs me more than most of them because there is NOTHING in the photo that gives any clues - the only hope that she has to be found seems to be someone seeing the photo and recognizing her and thats something I doubt will happen considering the amount of time these photos have been out with no hits yet.

    She really haunts me.
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    For some reason the color of her photo and the way the background is reminds me of these other girls that were in his stash.

    http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress...0/03/01541.jpg
    http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress...0/03/01561.jpg

    Mainly, if you look in the background of both of the above photos there appear to be lines going from to top right(ish) part of the photo to the bottom that almost look like film/camera defects..

    Now look at her photo

    http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress...0/03/00901.jpg

    And the background on the right seems to have the same type of lines.

    Not on the computer with photoshop right now, will post side by sides later.

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    Maybe they were shot through gauze to soften the effect??

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    Quote Originally Posted by punklove View Post
    For some reason the color of her photo and the way the background is reminds me of these other girls that were in his stash.

    http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress...0/03/01541.jpg
    http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress...0/03/01561.jpg

    Mainly, if you look in the background of both of the above photos there appear to be lines going from to top right(ish) part of the photo to the bottom that almost look like film/camera defects..

    Now look at her photo

    http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress...0/03/00901.jpg

    And the background on the right seems to have the same type of lines.

    Not on the computer with photoshop right now, will post side by sides later.

    PL, at first I thought it may have been the speed of the film. However, I think it's the lighting. Maybe he was trying to be an artiste.

    It's difficult to light only the subject if the background is close to them. With cameo girl in the white shirt you can actually if you look closely see the background. He had to be doing something with the lighting.

    If I recall correctly the further away the photographer is from the subject the easier that is to do with proper lighting. Also, it reminded me of when photographers use a hair light. A halo.

    Lil E if it was shot through gauze then the entire photograph would have that appearance.

    Don't quote me on any of this as I am not a photographer. I only worked for one for a significant period of time. Notice how much I paid attention? I never did the lighting. I just was on the sales end, but say in while the photographer checked the lighting and all before they did portraits. That was pre digi and all though.

    Also both girls have dark hair and that would blend in with a dark background if not lit properly.

    Who knows what is in the mind of a mad lunatic? I just pray these girls are safe somewhere. I always feel sick to my stomach looking at these photographs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filly View Post

    Lil E if it was shot through gauze then the entire photograph would have that appearance.

    Don't quote me on any of this as I am not a photographer. I only worked for one for a significant period of time. Notice how much I paid attention? I never did the lighting. I just was on the sales end, but say in while the photographer checked the lighting and all before they did portraits. That was pre digi and all though.
    I was just taking a wild guess about the gauze, I know nothing about photography. Since you have some experience in the field, I trust your judgment on it.

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    For what its worth,...something about this girl reminds me of Rose Cole. I realize Alcala was imprisoned at the time, but if Rose ran away perhaps he met her after his release in Aug of 74...???

    Rose Cole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lil'E View Post
    I was just taking a wild guess about the gauze, I know nothing about photography. Since you have some experience in the field, I trust your judgment on it.
    Oh trusting my judgement could be trouble, Lil'E. You may be right about the gauze. I wasn't the best lighting assistant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lil'E View Post
    For what its worth,...something about this girl reminds me of Rose Cole. I realize Alcala was imprisoned at the time, but if Rose ran away perhaps he met her after his release in Aug of 74...???

    Rose Cole


    Side by side - to me her lips/mouth area dont match but Im not the best at that sort of thing!

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    Rose apperantly wrote to her family saying she would not write again or come back until she was 18 - she would have turned 18 in December of '74. So she was 'planning' to remain a runaway until then already. Unless she had died prior to August 1974 - or is still alive out there somewhere - the dates don't seem an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by punklove View Post


    Side by side - to me her lips/mouth area dont match but Im not the best at that sort of thing!
    It's like the width between her nose and top lip is not the same.

    Also tough is the eyebrows. Rose Cole looked like she plucked her eyebrows overboard on the outside closest to the nose. You know what I mean? Then again eyebrows grow in.

    Definately seeing the scar now on our girl's left top of her eye closer to her brow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Filly View Post
    It's like the width between her nose and top lip is not the same.

    Also tough is the eyebrows. Rose Cole looked like she plucked her eyebrows overboard on the outside closest to the nose. You know what I mean? Then again eyebrows grow in.

    Definately seeing the scar now on our girl's left top of her eye closer to her brow.
    I don't know if I am doing everything right with the picture I want to attach... This is my first post here. in case it didn't work out, I compared pictures of Rose Cole being a very little girl and the one which was shown here already with the striped shirt. To me this girl looks very much like Rose Cole. Especially the eyebrows and the shape of the eyes and especially the shape of the "fleshy" eyelids. The lips as well. On the Alcala picture she doesn't smile and regarding that she has a thin upperlip and this could get even get thinner when smiling.

    What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by German Girl 1966 View Post
    I don't know if I am doing everything right with the picture I want to attach... This is my first post here. in case it didn't work out, I compared pictures of Rose Cole being a very little girl and the one which was shown here already with the striped shirt. To me this girl looks very much like Rose Cole. Especially the eyebrows and the shape of the eyes and especially the shape of the "fleshy" eyelids. The lips as well. On the Alcala picture she doesn't smile and regarding that she has a thin upperlip and this could get even get thinner when smiling.

    What do you think?
    Welcome German Girl, I don't think it worked out the picture attachment. That's O.K. though. Ya know you are right about the fleshy part of the eyelids even with the two original pictures of Rose vs our dear girl here.

    I'm no good with comparing lips. Plus your eyes are the same from birth on, right? Especially the eyelids part to me. I know from nothing, but I was huge with doing great eyeshadows back in my day. Contouring and all. My friends would ask me to put theirs on just like it. Well, it's the depth of the eyelid and how much space between that and your brows which make it work.

    If that makes sense? Another words theirs never came out looking like mine. I had a friend who had the most gorgeous eyes. She looked like a young Faye Dunaway. After I got done with her hardly there lids she looked plain awful. So I see what you mean.

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    Found a color photo of Rose (attached below for comparison) and the eye color doesnt match. The lips also dont match (the arch at the top of the upper lip and the fullness of the bottom) and Rose has freckles and a tiny mole about an inch from her nose (on our left).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Filly View Post
    When I saw this photograph blown up I physically got sick. Out of all these photgraphs this girl looks the most terrified.

    I was wondering if it isn't that ugly rug he had that she has draped around her? It's obvious something was done to her mouth and nose. Looks like even he grabbed her face down by her mouth. Kind of looks like a thumb mark bruise is starting.

    I know that isn't helping identify this poor girl, but I just feel like I want to help her so bad.
    The marks on her face remind me of after waxing, and with that dark complexion, dark brows--- upper lip/ chin waxing might not be unreasonable to think of.

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    I'm new to the forum, so I apologize if this has already been noted - but note the scar above her left eye? Could be an identifying mark.

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