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    There are also these


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    I think there are a few others of this person as well
    It is scary he had so many of 1 person. All seemingly naked, or at least topless. He / she (imo a she) also looks high, dark bags under the eyes and in a few shot very uncomfortable with something. I just think that much time alone with him and in what appears to be a vulnerable state, this many pictures can't be a good thing.

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    I put some photos together of her - the two middle ones are the same but I just blew them up to show her neck, something about her neck area just looks weird to me.

    Im not sure what shes sitting on, but it looks like a bit of tarp or a black plastic trash bag.

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    Does anyone else think the dresser in the background is the same as the one from the "blue room"? Could this mean that the pictures are taken relatively close to each other? I mean, would he move that piece of furniture cross country?

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    Bumping for 2012. If you are reading this and know anything about the identity of this person, please contact Huntington Beach Police Detective Patrick Ellis at 714-375-5066.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paradox217 View Post
    Does anyone else think the dresser in the background is the same as the one from the "blue room"? Could this mean that the pictures are taken relatively close to each other? I mean, would he move that piece of furniture cross country?
    That's what I was wondering. The dresser appears moved from its location in some wide shots which contain nothing datable later than about 1971. Thus I think these photos are in New York but maybe at a later date than the possible stewardess (Very Blonde Girl) or the apparently nude headphones brunette. My radar instantly ID'd this as a person of bosom. I halfway thought it was actress Daryl Hannah.

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    http://www.missingkids.com/missingki...archLang=en_US I saw this photo of Judith Erin O'Donnell and it really made me think of the photos of this girl. I saw that she went missing in 1980 from Maryland but she was from Greenwich Village area of New York and may have been there before 1980.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xlurker View Post
    http://www.missingkids.com/missingki...archLang=en_US I saw this photo of Judith Erin O'Donnell and it really made me think of the photos of this girl. I saw that she went missing in 1980 from Maryland but she was from Greenwich Village area of New York and may have been there before 1980.
    She looks very similar. It might even be her in the picture. However, it would be a spectacular coincidence if it is. You have to rule out Alcala in her disappearance. He's been in custody since July, 1979. She went missing in 1980.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildHuncher View Post
    She looks very similar. It might even be her in the picture. However, it would be a spectacular coincidence if it is. You have to rule out Alcala in her disappearance. He's been in custody since July, 1979. She went missing in 1980.
    thanks for thinking of Judy. She did, in fact, go missing 11/30/1980.

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    Similarities between Short Haired Blonde Girl and Judith Erin O'Donnell:

    Neck Lines/Shoulder Length
    reference: Short Haired Blonde Girl & Second photo of Judith

    The neck lines around the windpipe head in the same direction on both women.
    Both women have shoulders that slope downward.

    Collar Bone/Long Chest
    reference: Short Haired Blonde Girl & First photo of Judith

    Both have very similar collar bone structure.
    Both have "long" chests in the sense that the breast begin further down the chest.


    Hair Color/Style
    reference: all photos of Short Haired Blonde Girl & all color photos of Judith

    The hair color in incredibly similar in both women.
    The hair texture (thick, slightly wavey) is incredibly similar in both women.


    Nose Shape/Bridge of Nose
    reference: Short Haired Blonde Girl & Judith #1 + Judith #2

    The nose shape and length of bridge are very similar in both women.


    Location
    Judith resided in Greenwich Village, Manhattan, New York.
    Rodney Alcala lived/visited New York numerous times from 1968 - 1977.
    I have not studied the case 100.10% thoroughly but from what I've read on here it is assumed the photos of SHBG were taken in New York because of the furniture in the background.


    Discrepancies between Short Haired Blonde Girl and Judith Erin O'Donnell:

    Lack of Freckles/Birth Marks
    reference: Short Haired Blonde Girl & Judith[/I]

    In the only low-cut photo that is publicly available of Judith there is a lack of any freckles, birth marks or distinguishing marks. HOWEVER, I believe this photo is highly saturated and that any small features like that were diminished in the process.


    Teeth/Mouth
    reference: Short Haired Blonde Girl & all photos of Judith

    There is a huge discrepancy between the teeth appearance of Short Haired Blonde Girl and Judith. SHBG has very white "chipmunk"-esque teeth while in the released photos of Judith she has yellowed, crooked/gapped teeth.
    From what I have gathered, the released photos of Judith are circa 1980 or very close to 1980. The photos of SHBG could have been taken around 1971 (Judith would have been 11 - 12 at the time) or 1977 (Judith would have been 16 - 17 at the time) using Alcala's timeline. From the point of time where these photos were taken to the point where her released photos were taken (circa 1980); it is stated that she was heavily into drugs which, depending which types, could seriously damage your teeth and visibly change them. The appearance between SHBG's smirk and Judith's smile is also quite different but the atmosphere might not have required a full-fledged smile from SHBG. There is a similarity between both women's teeth that is noticeable: In this photo you can see that the tooth between the buck tooth and canine protrudes the same way SHBG's tooth does in this photo.


    Time of Disappearance
    Judith went missing on November 30, 1980 in Baltimore, Maryland. Rodney Alcala was incarcerated at that time, thus he is not responsible for her disappearance. That does not change the possibility that SHBG is in fact Judith O'Donnell; it simply means that she survived her encounter with him. Judith was an aspiring singer/actress so that might be how she first came in contact with Alcala. It is also said that her family believes she was sexually assaulted as a teenager and kept in touch with the culprit afterwards, which might have been Alcala and occurred during their photoshoot together. She was known to be heavily into drugs and prostitution so there is a large possibility that her disappearance in 1980 is directly related to drugs, prostitution or people she associated with in those crowds.


    Afterthoughts:
    There are striking similarities between SHBG and Judith that cannot be denied. There are also physical similarities such as the teeth that can be disputed. Do I think that SHBG and Judith are one and the same? I'm on the fence... I can't really say for sure. I do hope that if SHBG is not Judith, that one day she is positively identified and is alive and well. I also do hope that the recovery of Judith's remains or whereabouts are eventually discovered so that her family might have closure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrissiepoo View Post
    Similarities between Short Haired Blonde Girl and Judith Erin O'Donnell:

    Neck Lines/Shoulder Length
    reference: Short Haired Blonde Girl & Second photo of Judith

    The neck lines around the windpipe head in the same direction on both women.
    Both women have shoulders that slope downward.

    Collar Bone/Long Chest
    reference: Short Haired Blonde Girl & First photo of Judith

    Both have very similar collar bone structure.
    Both have "long" chests in the sense that the breast begin further down the chest.


    Hair Color/Style
    reference: all photos of Short Haired Blonde Girl & all color photos of Judith

    The hair color in incredibly similar in both women.
    The hair texture (thick, slightly wavey) is incredibly similar in both women.


    Nose Shape/Bridge of Nose
    reference: Short Haired Blonde Girl & Judith #1 + Judith #2

    The nose shape and length of bridge are very similar in both women.


    Location
    Judith resided in Greenwich Village, Manhattan, New York.
    Rodney Alcala lived/visited New York numerous times from 1968 - 1977.
    I have not studied the case 100.10% thoroughly but from what I've read on here it is assumed the photos of SHBG were taken in New York because of the furniture in the background.


    Discrepancies between Short Haired Blonde Girl and Judith Erin O'Donnell:

    Lack of Freckles/Birth Marks
    reference: Short Haired Blonde Girl & Judith[/I]

    In the only low-cut photo that is publicly available of Judith there is a lack of any freckles, birth marks or distinguishing marks. HOWEVER, I believe this photo is highly saturated and that any small features like that were diminished in the process.


    Teeth/Mouth
    reference: Short Haired Blonde Girl & all photos of Judith

    There is a huge discrepancy between the teeth appearance of Short Haired Blonde Girl and Judith. SHBG has very white "chipmunk"-esque teeth while in the released photos of Judith she has yellowed, crooked/gapped teeth.
    From what I have gathered, the released photos of Judith are circa 1980 or very close to 1980. The photos of SHBG could have been taken around 1971 (Judith would have been 11 - 12 at the time) or 1977 (Judith would have been 16 - 17 at the time) using Alcala's timeline. From the point of time where these photos were taken to the point where her released photos were taken (circa 1980); it is stated that she was heavily into drugs which, depending which types, could seriously damage your teeth and visibly change them. The appearance between SHBG's smirk and Judith's smile is also quite different but the atmosphere might not have required a full-fledged smile from SHBG. There is a similarity between both women's teeth that is noticeable: In this photo you can see that the tooth between the buck tooth and canine protrudes the same way SHBG's tooth does in this photo.


    Time of Disappearance
    Judith went missing on November 30, 1980 in Baltimore, Maryland. Rodney Alcala was incarcerated at that time, thus he is not responsible for her disappearance. That does not change the possibility that SHBG is in fact Judith O'Donnell; it simply means that she survived her encounter with him. Judith was an aspiring singer/actress so that might be how she first came in contact with Alcala. It is also said that her family believes she was sexually assaulted as a teenager and kept in touch with the culprit afterwards, which might have been Alcala and occurred during their photoshoot together. She was known to be heavily into drugs and prostitution so there is a large possibility that her disappearance in 1980 is directly related to drugs, prostitution or people she associated with in those crowds.


    Afterthoughts:
    There are striking similarities between SHBG and Judith that cannot be denied. There are also physical similarities such as the teeth that can be disputed. Do I think that SHBG and Judith are one and the same? I'm on the fence... I can't really say for sure. I do hope that if SHBG is not Judith, that one day she is positively identified and is alive and well. I also do hope that the recovery of Judith's remains or whereabouts are eventually discovered so that her family might have closure.

    thank you for the effort you put into looking at the similarities between judy and the monster alcala's potential victim.

    The girl in the picture is not Judy. the nose isn't right. That nose is more like mine (turned up and sort of cute -- Judy's nose is (was?) long and pronounced.)

    the pictures look like a boy, not a 19 year old woman. (if it was Judy, she would have been much younger than these pix show).

    While there are undeniable similarities, there is NO WAY this is my sister. Again, thank you -- but this isn't her.


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    Thank you for responding Maureen!
    Now, back to the drawing board: who is Short Haired Blonde Girl?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessunlil View Post
    Has someone blown up and re-sharpened this image and then identified the books on the shelf yet in order to date the photo? I don't have anything but Paint so I can't do it but I would if I could!

    (PS is that the same white alarm clock we see in "possible flight attendant/blond girl"'s photo?

    When I saw that pic in Possible FA's thread with the calendar and then another with a clock I kept wondering if he was toying with the idea of sending ransom notes... documenting the date and time like that.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billylee View Post
    I enlarged the picture of the one with the bookshelf, it looks like the one book says "player piano". Could it be this book: http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/Bo...6x%3D0%26y%3D0
    Knew someone would be on top of it!

    IMHO can't be this book unless it's a different edition. This book is too thin, the one on the shelf is thicker. Then again, the "P... y... P" do work very well, but I didn't think it was a slanted tail like a "y" that was hanging down, I thought it was a straight one like a "p"... so hard to tell.

    EDIT: now that I blew it up in the browser instead of with paint, I can see it way more clearly (wish there were hi def pics available - I"m guessing that's what the Nancy Grace ones were but now every thread here starts with a broken link because she took hers down, so... I'm working with low def here.)



    Now I think you're right about the book title but still think it's a different edition. JMO

    Your link suggests that the book was published first in 1971, that's a great dating tool! I wonder if that's the edition of just THIS version, though?

    "PLAYER PIANO by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. Avon, 1971. Binding: Mass Market Paperback Dust Jacket: No jacket. NOTES: 10th Bard printing"

    (From link in quoted post above)

    ETA - totally on the fence about the gender of this person. I think that was something he liked, since we see it fairly often. I wonder if he dressed boys in girls clothing for pictures at times? Not sure why I wonder that.. just do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jessunlil View Post
    More newly released photos (from WPIX).





    Just trying to get all the pics of each person together in one post. Let me add:






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    This is a long shot, but I think I might know this person. The person I know spent some time in San Francisco around 1975-76. Are there any dates for these photo? Or a place that I can submit a potential match?

    On the bright side, the person I suspect is alive and well.

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