2010.03.25 Misty Croslin Flunks Secret Police Polygraph!!

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“The polygraph operator said, ‘She didn’t just flunk, she flunked miserably,’” a source familiar with the hush-hush test tells The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview.

“The Putnam County Sheriff’s Department arranged it, picked her up and took her to an interview room in our jail,” recalled Sgt. Chuck Mulligan, spokesman for the sheriff’s department in St. John’s County outside St. Augustine, Florida. For all other questions, he referred us to PCSD, where no one would officially confirm or deny the Croslin test ever happened." <snipped>

http://www.artharris.com/2010/03/26/exclusive-misty-croslin-flunks-secret-police-polygraph/

ETA: LOTS more at the link
 
I don't put a lot of faith in things that AH says. I just can't see how Misty could point a finger a Joe but was out hanging up flyers with him.. but AH version of events sounds ridiculous to say the least. Tommy and Joe came over to steal a gun and Misty didn't know where it was so Tommy left and Joe snatched Haleigh...... REALLY....and then what? Misty said OH, OKAY.. and waited around til Ron got home and claimed someone kidnapped her? I can't even begin to make that make since...
but like I said I don't put a whole lot into what AH says.
 
Misty Croslin Flunks Secret Police Polygraph!!

IMAGINE THAT.... JMO
 
So, at 5:30 p.m., Feb. 26, it was the moment of truth. Investigators had arrived earlier, with the veteran examiner, Patty Knight of Duval County, setting up her machine in the jail&#8217;s admin building. Then word went out to Croslin&#8217;s cell block and she was slipped out a side door, and escorted, in shackles, to the test area just a few minutes walk away.

So this is this Feb 2010

Then, private polygraph examiner Patty Knight, who works a day job in community policing with the Duval County Sheriff&#8217;s Department, finished her testing&#8212;and delivered the news. Not only had Misty Croslin flunked, she&#8217;d flunked &#8220;miserably,&#8221; sources tell me she announced.

Then she took the private Texas Equusearch polygraph which she flunked, along with a voice stress test she didn&#8217;t pass, according to founder Tim Miller, and now this one.

Poor HaLeigh. It seems this family can't do anything right for HaLeigh. When will it end


I beleive if LE thought Tommy did something they would give him a LDT. I believe they don't think Tommy at all or else LE would of givin him one free. I believe it's Tommy wanting to claer his name. If LE wanded to clear him he would of taken a LDT already. JMO
 
Well, well, well.

I hope they hook ToC up to a LD machine very soon, better yet, hook up Joe Overstreet. Something happened that night with the two of them and the gun they wanted back. This story does not sound unfamiliar to me because I wrote this exact theory out word for word months ago right here on this forum. Maybe someone read it( Misty), but truth is, it is what I thought happened from the very beginning. Now, unlike months ago when Art Harris interviewed Granny Flora, she told Art Harris, one of them is lying! Months ago it was . Joe is a good boy, well I wasn't fooled then and I am sure not fooled now.

SNIP FROM ARTICLE~&#8220;I&#8217;ve asked him over and over, and he tells me, &#8216;No, he didn&#8217;t do it,&#8217;&#8221; his grandmother, Flora Hollers, told me this week.
She says she has her doubts, loves them all, but doesn&#8217;t know which of her three grandchildren to believe. &#8220;I wish they could put Joe in with Misty and Tommy so (police) could get them all to sweat and maybe someone would tell us what happened,&#8221; Hollers said. &#8220;I&#8217;m just sick about that little girl.&#8221; ~ END SNIP

I think we are getting closer to the truth and the reason why Misty is "flunking" these tests is because she leaves out or fails to implicate herself in every story she tells. Misty Cummings played a part, come clean Misty!
 
Well, well, well.

I hope they hook ToC up to a LD machine very soon, better yet, hook up Joe Overstreet. Something happened that night with the two of them and the gun they wanted back. This story does not sound unfamiliar to me because I wrote this exact theory out word for word months ago right here on this forum. Maybe someone read it( Misty), but truth is, it is what I thought happened from the very beginning. Now, unlike months ago when Art Harris interviewed Granny Flora, she told Art Harris, one of them is lying! Months ago it was . Joe is a good boy, well I wasn't fooled then and I am sure not fooled now.

SNIP FROM ARTICLE~&#8220;I&#8217;ve asked him over and over, and he tells me, &#8216;No, he didn&#8217;t do it,&#8217;&#8221; his grandmother, Flora Hollers, told me this week.
She says she has her doubts, loves them all, but doesn&#8217;t know which of her three grandchildren to believe. &#8220;I wish they could put Joe in with Misty and Tommy so (police) could get them all to sweat and maybe someone would tell us what happened,&#8221; Hollers said. &#8220;I&#8217;m just sick about that little girl.&#8221; ~ END SNIP

I think we are getting closer to the truth and the reason why Misty is "flunking" these tests is because she leaves out or fails to implicate herself in every story she tells. Misty Cummings played a part, come clean Misty!

BBM.. RED...IMHO.. LE needs to find a way to haul in TN and some of The Cummings Clan and hook them up to a LDT...Same goes for GGMS too...
And IMHO perhaps the reason she is failing all these tests is because she has refused to implicate Ron C and the members of his family who assisted him that night and have been covering for him for over a year now...JMO
 
pssst. OT

KP posted on BNN in response to some allegations. Scroll down to the 25th of March comment section
 
My belief is that Misty continues to try to point the finger at everyone else and can't pass a lie detector test because she is not telling the truth. How many lie detector tests does she believe she can fool? It hasn't worked up until this point you would think she would just stop it! I don't get it. I really do not. This girl appears to not have a true sense of reality.

What part about playing around with law enforcement doesn't she get?
 
BBM.. RED...IMHO.. LE needs to find a way to haul in TN and some of The Cummings Clan and hook them up to a LDT...Same goes for GGMS too...
And IMHO perhaps the reason she is failing all these tests is because she has refused to implicate Ron C and the members of his family who assisted him that night and have been covering for him for over a year now...JMO

Why are you so certain of who did and who did not take a LDT and what their results were. People keep posting that certain people need to take LDT's and for all we know they have taken them. I think it is a great idea and a investigative tool that is almost always used in cases like these. We know for a fact that Law Enforcement offered these tests to everyone they interviewed about Haleigh because they said they did. What we don't know is who took them or the results.

I don't disagree with you though, each person you mentioned should have already taken a test, we know Crystal took a test and we know that Marie to a Voice Stress test so I am certain that these tests were offered to the family of Ron as well, trouble is we do not know if they were taken. If Law Enforcement, as a way to further the investigation into Haleigh's disappearance, deciding to release the names of everyone who did submit to a test, would that make you feel better about the Cummings? Personally, it wouldn't make me feel better.
 
I think once Tommy gets "hooked up" the better. I don't know why she would finger her bother if it is a lie? She failed again, what makes her think she can pass these tests and lie on them?

Maybe you take everything she says and rule it out. Many of us said that when LE looked behind the water heater in the MH they were looking for a gun or drugs, looks like that was the case to me.

We need a list of player and where they were that night. All of them. The thing is, what would Joe or Tommy do with Haleigh? Wouldn't Tommy stop Joe? She hasn't been found, dead or alive. That tells me who ever took her, they planned this out, it wasn't on the fly. A child that has been missing since Dec was just found the other day a few blocks from the house. It was winter and LE couldn't search the area until now. If she was taken, then she had to be taken out of Satsuma or I think she would be found. So if Misty is lying and Joe and Tommy didn't do this, who did? Just thinking out loud again. sorry.
 
Why are you so certain of who did and who did not take a LDT and what their results were. People keep posting that certain people need to take LDT's and for all we know they have taken them. I think it is a great idea and a investigative tool that is almost always used in cases like these. We know for a fact that Law Enforcement offered these tests to everyone they interviewed about Haleigh because they said they did. What we don't know is who took them or the results.

I don't disagree with you though, each person you mentioned should have already taken a test, we know Crystal took a test and we know that Marie to a Voice Stress test so I am certain that these tests were offered to the family of Ron as well, trouble is we do not know if they were taken. If Law Enforcement, as a way to further the investigation into Haleigh's disappearance, deciding to release the names of everyone who did submit to a test, would that make you feel better about the Cummings? Personally, it wouldn't make me feel better.

[BBM]

No, what would make me feel better is if LE would release the results of those tests.

I feel like Tommy and Joe were given lie detector tests long ago, but that's OMO.
 
I think once Tommy gets "hooked up" the better. I don't know why she would finger her bother if it is a lie? She failed again, what makes her think she can pass these tests and lie on them?

Maybe you take everything she says and rule it out. Many of us said that when LE looked behind the water heater in the MH they were looking for a gun or drugs, looks like that was the case to me.

We need a list of player and where they were that night. All of them. The thing is, what would Joe or Tommy do with Haleigh? Wouldn't Tommy stop Joe? She hasn't been found, dead or alive. That tells me who ever took her, they planned this out, it wasn't on the fly. A child that has been missing since Dec was just found the other day a few blocks from the house. It was winter and LE couldn't search the area until now. If she was taken, then she had to be taken out of Satsuma or I think she would be found. So if Misty is lying and Joe and Tommy didn't do this, who did? Just thinking out loud again. sorry.

Another million dollar question it could be some sort of accidental death just as you have theorized and Tommy or Joe helped Misty with the van that night. I still hold firm that misty isn't going to pass any polygraph test until she comes clean with her part in all of it. She is still with holding the important aspects which in my opinion is why she is flunking all the tests. Tommy and Joe could be involved up to their eyeballs, but until she tells the truth and implicates all parties she will continue to fail these tests. Tommy and Joe have 100% assurance that they are in the clear as long as Misty keeps failing so miserably. Perfect set up.
 
But Tommy did offer to take a poly didn't he? And LE said he would need $800 for the test IIRCC.
 
Another million dollar question it could be some sort of accidental death just as you have theorized and Tommy or Joe helped Misty with the van that night. I still hold firm that misty isn't going to pass any polygraph test until she comes clean with her part in all of it. She is still with holding the important aspects which in my opinion is why she is flunking all the tests. Tommy and Joe could be involved up to their eyeballs, but until she tells the truth and implicates all parties she will continue to fail these tests. Tommy and Joe have 100% assurance that they are in the clear as long as Misty keeps failing so miserably. Perfect set up.

Here is my problem with this; if I did something like this and had Tommy and Joe help me, I would NEVER, rat them out. NEVER! That only gives them reason to say "HEY, SHE DID IT, NOT ME AND WE CAN TELL YOU DETAILS" . She has to be pointing to them to protect herself and someone else. So who is it? Not her dad, he had a broken leg. Her mom? Timmy? Can't be Ron, he was at werk. So who? Amber? Nope I don't think they were friends.
 
But Tommy did offer to take a poly didn't he? And LE said he would need $800 for the test IIRCC.

Maybe we need to take up a collection? Anyone want to call them and see if that would help? kidding, don't call....:angel:
 
Well, well, well.

I hope they hook ToC up to a LD machine very soon, better yet, hook up Joe Overstreet. Something happened that night with the two of them and the gun they wanted back. This story does not sound unfamiliar to me because I wrote this exact theory out word for word months ago right here on this forum. Maybe someone read it( Misty), but truth is, it is what I thought happened from the very beginning. Now, unlike months ago when Art Harris interviewed Granny Flora, she told Art Harris, one of them is lying! Months ago it was . Joe is a good boy, well I wasn't fooled then and I am sure not fooled now.

SNIP FROM ARTICLE~“I’ve asked him over and over, and he tells me, ‘No, he didn’t do it,’” his grandmother, Flora Hollers, told me this week.
She says she has her doubts, loves them all, but doesn’t know which of her three grandchildren to believe. “I wish they could put Joe in with Misty and Tommy so (police) could get them all to sweat and maybe someone would tell us what happened,” Hollers said. “I’m just sick about that little girl.” ~ END SNIP

I think we are getting closer to the truth and the reason why Misty is "flunking" these tests is because she leaves out or fails to implicate herself in every story she tells. Misty Cummings played a part, come clean Misty!


Elle, according to Levi Page on Twitter last night, this LDT was specifically regarding her statements about Tommy and Joe. (according to his source)
 
So maybe part of this story of Misty's is true, but she doesn't tell it in the correct time frame. Would that show as a lie? What if Tommy and Joe were there at 5pm with the AC guy? And there was a discussion about the gun and Misty was going to let them take it and sell it? She just got back from the weekend of drugs, she is at Ron house and maybe is still mad at him and wants to get back at him by selling his prize gun. So if she held that back, would it show as a lie? So if she left that night to go get drugs with money from the gun sell, she wouldn't know who took Haleigh when she got back? She could only guess. Maybe that is the problem, IDK.
 
[BBM]

No, what would make me feel better is if LE would release the results of those tests.

I feel like Tommy and Joe were given lie detector tests long ago, but that's OMO.

Don't know about Joe, but there are video's of Tommy here : http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video...e+Questioned+in+Haleigh's+Disa.../49303120001

back in August of 2009 where he stated that he would take a LD test. I have my doubts he ever took one and if he did, he didn't so so well and that is why he is asking to take another administered by an outside source. In my opinion there is a reason for the decline in this man's life. He has engaged in drugs and a life of crime, perhaps he was a dabbler of both before Haleigh went missing, but this is not the lifestyle of innocent law abiding citizens in my opinion. Tommy knows something.
 
So maybe part of this story of Misty's is true, but she doesn't tell it in the correct time frame. Would that show as a lie? What if Tommy and Joe were there at 5pm with the AC guy? And there was a discussion about the gun and Misty was going to let them take it and sell it? She just got back from the weekend of drugs, she is at Ron house and maybe is still mad at him and wants to get back at him by selling his prize gun. So if she held that back, would it show as a lie? So if she left that night to go get drugs with money from the gun sell, she wouldn't know who took Haleigh when she got back? She could only guess. Maybe that is the problem, IDK.

Absolutely Bern.

Also, although I don't believe this, but a small part of me still can't rule out if these two came over to 202, Misty called Ron, and all hell broke loose. If I am being honest I can't rule that out. I know everyone says RC was at work but Mr Shoemaker even said himself that he was there
"almost" the entire time. Words like almost make me a tad nervous until Law Enforcement themselves could come out and say he was there the entire night. I don't think they have done that.
 
In my opinion, if LE wanted Tommy to take a LDT, there would be no cost to Tommy. If Tommy is asking for a LDT, and LE is telling him to cough up $800, then I don't think they are concerned with him. The way I remember it, LP asked Lindsy if Tommy would be willing to take a LDT, and she said, yes. Then Lindsy asks Tommy if he would be willing to take one, and he says H--- yes, I'll take one. After giving Misty the LDT, and if it was to specifically question her about Tommy and Joe, then they now know she lied through her teeth.
 

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