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    Quote Originally Posted by 90Nine View Post
    Why does it matter if they smoke? Maybe they use it on camping trips or something like that.

    Were you thinking she was into some kind of illegal activity just because there was a lighter in the car?
    I'm not sure why you are addressing my post, I didn't make any comments about smoking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RubyRed View Post
    I'm not sure why you are addressing my post, I didn't make any comments about smoking.
    Not directed at you. Sorry if it came out that way. I was trying to figure out the importance in a lighter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Calliope View Post
    Apparently she did.
    I thought the reports said that the incident where they found her passed out ?and CPS took Az away for a year was in 2007?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 90Nine View Post
    Not directed at you. Sorry if it came out that way. I was trying to figure out the importance in a lighter.
    Okay, no problem. I misunderstood. I don't see any importance of a lighter.fwiw


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    Quote Originally Posted by Calliope View Post
    It looks like a tool... socket wrench / ratchet piece?
    In fact... the more I look at it, I'm convinced that's what it is. I've seen one of those before (probably at Dad's and he could ID it in a heartbeat lol).


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    Quote Originally Posted by 90Nine View Post
    I thought the reports said that the incident where they found her passed out ?and CPS took Az away for a year was in 2007?
    I don't recall exactly, but I don't think it said he was gone for a year just that he was returned the next year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    Robb said Shantina was very picky about the van (given to them by his Mother). She would not even smoke in it. I read this somewhere, but can't find it now ....
    I hadn't read that info before, but just now I found the article you must be referencing.

    It says in the article:
    "He said he is sure Shantina would not have been drinking and driving. Not with Azriel and not with the van. She was so particular about the van, which was given to them by Simmons' mother, that she would go outside to smoke and never smoked in the van."

    So, according to this, that does tell us she was a smoker.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Calliope View Post
    In fact... the more I look at it, I'm convinced that's what it is. I've seen one of those before (probably at Dad's and he could ID it in a heartbeat lol).
    Yes, it does have the general shape of a socket, but usually they are chromed steel. But it could be. I was leaning toward home-made pipe out of copper. It looked in the photo like maybe the edges were not cut flush. But that could just be a blur from zooming in 400%. It could also be a mace device like shown in an above post. But, trying to decide if it were paraphernalia was the only reason I would care if there was a lighter in the glove box.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Calliope View Post
    I don't recall exactly, but I don't think it said he was gone for a year just that he was returned the next year.
    After reading this I'm extremely confused how she could have had custody of Az in 2007 when she moved in with RS.

    If the removal from custody occurred in the March 2007 timeframe and he was returned the next year - doesn't that mean they would not have had Az from the March timeframe until sometime in 2008.

    Please correct me if my math is wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Calliope View Post
    It looks like a tool... socket wrench / ratchet piece?
    Ok my grandson hoping will know what that is...BRB


    In the mean time if already posted sorry, but heres the 911 call...

    http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-0316...743159.mp3file


    Im so surprised LE did not say to RS come in and make a report if you don't find her. Instead he drives back to her Stepfathers and goes to sleep. WTH?
    Sorry but when the caller gave the 911 dispatcher the plate number, where I work, it would have been a oh boy moment...We read out every half hour a missing person alarms, esp if a CHILD is involved...Very weird.
    The World Has Gone Mad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 90Nine View Post
    After reading this I'm extremely confused how she could have had custody of Az in 2007 when she moved in with RS.

    If the removal from custody occurred in the March 2007 timeframe and he was returned the next year - doesn't that mean they would not have had Az from the March timeframe until sometime in 2008.

    Please correct me if my math is wrong.
    Oh. I thought he was taken at the end of 07.

    Good grief. It's not your math skills, it's all the twists and turns in this case.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    Robb said Shantina was very picky about the van (given to them by his Mother). She would not even smoke in it. I read this somewhere, but can't find it now ....

    Is the small cannister a Co2 cartridge like for a paintball gun?
    LOL...Hmmm my grandson said it looks like a coin holder to him. He said it doesn't look like a tool (which I thought it was) .
    The World Has Gone Mad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Calliope View Post
    It looks like a tool... socket wrench / ratchet piece?
    is that a key in the upper left? if so, why is it not on her keychain.

    was this the key they said was left on the dash? if so, where are the other keys


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    Quote Originally Posted by 90Nine View Post
    I see - and you responded by knocking down my observation why?
    How is it I knocked down your observation? I was merely stating there could be other reasons for yellow teeth.

    To answer your question about the significance of the lighter - I was curious if either one of them smoked and wondered if the canister looking thing was in fact a pipe of some kind (as others have mentioned). If so, and they did not smoke, that could explain having it. JMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by 90Nine View Post
    is that a key in the upper left? if so, why is it not on her keychain.

    was this the key they said was left on the dash? if so, where are the other keys
    At 400% zoom you can even see the button for opening the hatch and doors.
    Also what appears to be the empty ring leaning on the right hand side. So whether it was ever attached to any other keys is open to speculation, I suppose.


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