2010.06.01 ~ NEW Levi Page Show kicks off tonight!!!

[Kimster]

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/levipag...vi-page-show-1

9 PM Eastern/6PM Pacific

From the site:

"Defense attorney Mark Eiglarsh is here to discuss the dramatic hearing in the Caylee Anthony murder case! Can tot mom's defense save her from the death penalty? Also, urgent news in the homicide investigation of 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings! New emotional and dramatic tapes released of the drug trafficking defendants behind bars. These defendants could possibly be involved in Haleigh's murder! And tonight: A Mexican judge issues an arrest warrant for ex "Survivor" producer Bruce Beresford-Redman who is now wanted for the murder of his wife Monica Beresford-Redman! Fmr Detective Stacy Dittrich and Profiler Pat Brown weigh in!"

[Kimster]

We will leave this thread open for those who have questions for Levi and for the portion of the show where Haleigh is discussed.

[BetteDavisEyes]

I get too much noisy feedback from my speakers when trying to listen to Levi's show, but I will read comments that are posted here.

I would like to know how long ago the recently-released jail phone conversations took place. Thanks for your consideration.

[Maryann123]

Levi, why couldn't Misty have met Ronald near, or at his work the night Haleigh went missing? A lot of husbands and wives meet to have dinner together when one is working. In their case, it could have been a meeting to resolve the argument they were having. Someone besides Tommy says Misty left the MH that night. What if she loaded up the kids and met Ron and this is when Haleigh was killed. Just because he was at work, doesn't mean he didn't kill her. I still think it was an accidental death, but it was due to his violent temper. Has this theory ever been explored?

[gngr~snap]

* Cobra and Ron Audio

Levi~ just wondering if this has been brought to your attention...
Curious what you and Mark Eiglarsh's thoughts were in relation to this snip...


ron: I! I picked my daughter up from the bus stop… and she sat in my lap…
f**** what the world thinks, they can all suck my d*** …. I let her sit in my lap and steer the car home… and she put her left blinker on to turn left down the dirt
road to go to my house! when she rounded the (unintelligible) and s***… hit the right
blinker! okay?

He (Ron) used the word put for the left blinker and hit with right blinker.

~ Did they(Haleigh and Ron)have a wreck before Ron left for work?? Any idea?

~ Was Ron trying to say here that Haleigh was driving and hit something with the car the afternoon before he went to work?

so technically it was NOT his fault if she ended up injured that day?

[Maryann123]

Originally Posted by gngr~snap

* Cobra and Ron Audio

Levi~ just wondering if this has been brought to your attention...
Curious what you and Mark Eiglarsh's thoughts were in relation to this snip...


ron: I! I picked my daughter up from the bus stop… and she sat in my lap…
f**** what the world thinks, they can all suck my d*** …. I let her sit in my lap and steer the car home… and she put her left blinker on to turn left down the dirt
road to go to my house! when she rounded the (unintelligible) and s***… hit the right
blinker! okay?

He (Ron) used the word put for the left blinker and hit with right blinker.

~ Did they(Haleigh and Ron)have a wreck before Ron left for work?? Any idea?

~ Was Ron trying to say here that Haleigh was driving and hit something with the car the afternoon before he went to work?

so technically it was NOT his fault if she ended up injured that day?

If that were the case, you call 911 and take the blame. I've done the same thing myself, with my grandsons. (let them sit on my lap and drive down my cul-de-sac) It can't be that simple. It had to be done in a fit of rage, either accidentally or on purpose. I don't mean killed her on purpose, I mean hit her on purpose and she died. But, your scenario would be his best excuse, when he's caught! I think he will be caught when Misty decides to talk.

[justus4all]

Originally Posted by gngr~snap

* Cobra and Ron Audio

Levi~ just wondering if this has been brought to your attention...
Curious what you and Mark Eiglarsh's thoughts were in relation to this snip...


ron: I! I picked my daughter up from the bus stop… and she sat in my lap…
f**** what the world thinks, they can all suck my d*** …. I let her sit in my lap and steer the car home… and she put her left blinker on to turn left down the dirt
road to go to my house! when she rounded the (unintelligible) and s***… hit the right
blinker! okay?

He (Ron) used the word put for the left blinker and hit with right blinker.

~ Did they(Haleigh and Ron)have a wreck before Ron left for work?? Any idea?

~ Was Ron trying to say here that Haleigh was driving and hit something with the car the afternoon before he went to work?

so technically it was NOT his fault if she ended up injured that day?

Bolded by me....I have responded in answering this question a few week ago, but I find it interesting that others are thinking this might have happened and caused an injury to H that resulted in her death...either at that moment or later that evening...

This is the statement that R gave about his last day with H(If I am in error, please correct me)...The way he describes her ..sitting on his lap..turning the wheel while turning on the left then the right blinker..gives me reason to think H might have turn the wheel sharply..like kids do..and the car..lurched off course...This act alone..letting a child drive a vehicle..could be a receipe for an accident...This is directly from R himself...describing that day, describing letting H drive..this is the only statement from him..THAT COULD have caused H to be injured/died...I don't know of any other statements from him/Misty/Others...that have described H in a dangerous activity...Has ANYONE?????....

Hoping Levi follows up on this........all in my own opinion...

[Kimster]

Originally Posted by gngr~snap

* Cobra and Ron Audio

Levi~ just wondering if this has been brought to your attention...
Curious what you and Mark Eiglarsh's thoughts were in relation to this snip...


ron: I! I picked my daughter up from the bus stop… and she sat in my lap…
f**** what the world thinks, they can all suck my d*** …. I let her sit in my lap and steer the car home… and she put her left blinker on to turn left down the dirt
road to go to my house! when she rounded the (unintelligible) and s***… hit the right
blinker! okay?

He (Ron) used the word put for the left blinker and hit with right blinker.

~ Did they(Haleigh and Ron)have a wreck before Ron left for work?? Any idea?

~ Was Ron trying to say here that Haleigh was driving and hit something with the car the afternoon before he went to work?

so technically it was NOT his fault if she ended up injured that day?

Levi is reading this on the show!

[dodie20]

Originally Posted by gngr~snap

* Cobra and Ron Audio

Levi~ just wondering if this has been brought to your attention...
Curious what you and Mark Eiglarsh's thoughts were in relation to this snip...


ron: I! I picked my daughter up from the bus stop… and she sat in my lap…
f**** what the world thinks, they can all suck my d*** …. I let her sit in my lap and steer the car home… and she put her left blinker on to turn left down the dirt
road to go to my house! when she rounded the (unintelligible) and s***… hit the right
blinker! okay?

He (Ron) used the word put for the left blinker and hit with right blinker.

~ Did they(Haleigh and Ron)have a wreck before Ron left for work?? Any idea?

~ Was Ron trying to say here that Haleigh was driving and hit something with the car the afternoon before he went to work?

so technically it was NOT his fault if she ended up injured that day?

well, I find it strange that he refers to his lap, the F word, & the phrase S.... my d word, all in the same exchange as he's speaking of Haleigh. I hope the psychologist on the show, follows up on this.

[gngr~snap]

Originally Posted by dodie20

well, I find it strange that he refers to his lap, the F word, & the phrase S.... my d word, all in the same exchange as he's speaking of Haleigh. I hope the psychologist on the show, follows up on this.

They didn't agree. Saying it was not a long enough distance from bus stop to home... even a quick stop can injure an unrestrained child hitting the steering wheel or dash or floor... that was my point. But Ron said she drove home in his lap not me... just wondered if she could have gotten a closed head injury and slipped away a few hours later....

Heck we still don't even have a straight answer on who picked Haleigh up off the bus that day

[Wendy101]

Originally Posted by gngr~snap

They didn't agree. Saying it was not a long enough distance from bus stop to home... even a quick stop can injure an unrestrained child hitting the steering wheel or dash or floor... that was my point. But Ron said she drove home in his lap not me... just wondered if she could have gotten a closed head injury and slipped away a few hours later....

Heck we still don't even have a straight answer on who picked Haleigh up off the bus that day

Stacy: school officials would be believed - whomever they say picked up H, then would believe school officials

Who is Stacy?
IMO sounds like this person does not believe Ronald Cummings picked p his daughter that day.

[epiphany]

Originally Posted by Zaha

Stacy: school officials would be believed - whomever they say picked up H, then would believe school officials

Who is Stacy?
IMO sounds like this person does not believe Ronald Cummings picked p his daughter that day.

Former Detective Stacy Dittrich

[maureen718]

Originally Posted by dodie20

well, I find it strange that he refers to his lap, the F word, & the phrase S.... my d word, all in the same exchange as he's speaking of Haleigh. I hope the psychologist on the show, follows up on this.

I've been bothered by this statement and some others for some time, it started for me after we had a basic profile of ronald through interviews on various media outlets and then all the info of Turner Syndrome. The fact that Turner Syndrome is a defect in the X sex chromosome and the complications that the missing X creates seems like it would be something that would cause someone like ronald great angst.

[gngr~snap]

Originally Posted by maureen718

I've been bothered by this statement and some others for some time, it started for me after we had a basic profile of ronald through interviews on various media outlets and then all the info of Turner Syndrome. The fact that Turner Syndrome is a defect in the X sex chromosome and the complications that the missing X creates seems like it would be something that would cause someone like ronald great angst.

Why would Ron have great angst? XX are girls .....XY are boys

How do we know it was Ron's "X" and not Crystal's "X"?

or that it wasn't an error in cell division during the early stages of fetal developement?

IMO it was neither parent's "fault"

[maureen718]

Originally Posted by gngr~snap

Why would Ron have great angst? XX are girls .....XY are boys

How do we know it was Ron's "X" and not Crystal's "X"?

or that it wasn't an error in cell division during the early stages of fetal developement?

IMO it was neither parent's "fault"

sorry, I did not mean that he would feel that it was his fault, although I don't feel ronald thinks much of anything is his fault, jmo, I meant the complications of that disease may have freaked him out as someone with with Turners does not reach sexual maturity and I think this all was explained to both parents at some point, although I do NOT know that as fact. By no means did I mean to blame either parent for this genetic condition, as with any genetic condition generally it is something that just occurs and cannot be pinpointed to reason or caused by anything a parent "did"

[jessigirl]

Originally Posted by maureen718

I've been bothered by this statement and some others for some time, it started for me after we had a basic profile of ronald through interviews on various media outlets and then all the info of Turner Syndrome. The fact that Turner Syndrome is a defect in the X sex chromosome and the complications that the missing X creates seems like it would be something that would cause someone like ronald great angst.

I'm not quite understanding either what exactly you mean?
Is it what gngr~snap stated above about placing a blame on what parent the trait or lack there of came from? If so, I too would say no one is to blame. Flukes of this nature happen to perfectly healthy, upstanding, non drug using individuals...
Or did you mean that you thought all of the disabilities/handicaps that are an effect from the Turner Syndrome would be of great angst for him to care for? If so, I understand that it does come with health issues but nothing that would constitute major care like in the case of CP.. But then again you may be speaking of it being of great angst to him in that it is a less than perfect child? and the men that I know personally that fall into that category are from all walks of life, but in my experience its usually been the wealthier category thats narcissism doesn't allow for imperfections in their offspring. ...
Wasn't sure exactly what you meant but was an interesting observation none the less of all the meanings above..

[maureen718]

Originally Posted by jessigirl

I'm not quite understanding either what exactly you mean?
Is it what gngr~snap stated above about placing a blame on what parent the trait or lack there of came from? If so, I too would say no one is to blame. Flukes of this nature happen to perfectly healthy, upstanding, non drug using individuals...
Or did you mean that you thought all of the disabilities/handicaps that are an effect from the Turner Syndrome would be of great angst for him to care for? If so, I understand that it does come with health issues but nothing that would constitute major care like in the case of CP.. But then again you may be speaking of it being of great angst to him in that it is a less than perfect child? and the men that I know personally that fall into that category are from all walks of life, but in my experience its usually been the wealthier category thats narcissism doesn't allow for imperfections in their offspring. ...
Wasn't sure exactly what you meant but was an interesting observation none the less of all the meanings above..

I suppose what I am saying, without trying to accuse ronald of a heinous crime that there is NO proof of, is that the suggestion that his daughter would not mature to be a "sexual" woman (ugh I'm making myself sick going on this train of thought) may have been something he was unwilling or unable to accept, and he may have had ideas of how to "correct" the problem. I am not trying to suggest he was inappropriate with HaLeigh, it's just the age difference between him and his girlfriends after Crystal leads me to believe he may have preferred girls who still looked childlike, imo Misty did not look much over 12. And it is moo that ronald may have thought the doctors were wrong and this problem could be corrected with early training, it could be what led him to such young girls for companions. His acceptance that his daughter is "gone" either missing or dead, and he doesn't seem to discern the two, gives me a feeling that he is okay with the fact. The recap he gives of the ride home and the language he uses has bothered me from the first time I heard it, it's not the foul language but the words he used, his sentence structure and the meaning I came away with after hearing it. again jmo and I'm not sure I won't change it.

[my_tee_mouse]

Originally Posted by dodie20

well, I find it strange that he refers to his lap, the F word, & the phrase S.... my d word, all in the same exchange as he's speaking of Haleigh. I hope the psychologist on the show, follows up on this.

That sets off alarms in my head and just flat creeps me out.

[Kimster]

Starting on Haleigh's case now. Playing a clip.

[epiphany]

Levi playing the ToC and LisC tape where they dismiss and don't believe Hope's 15 yr. sentence. Later tape, ToC "freaks out" at Hope's sentence (newspaper tape).

[epiphany]

PBrown: jail is more tolerable than prison (for ToC)
- if ToC tells t truth, will it lead to anything at this point?
StacyD: he's lied too many times; will need physical evidence; evidence - they could have talked; would have to put terms on any deal for ToC

[epiphany]

PB: if exactly same rope (from ToC's house) and could prove it - fabulous evidence

[epiphany]

Levi reading Ron transcript of R and Cobra (H on lap)

[epiphany]

Stacy: is taking pass on Levi's question - cause she's not quite convinced of that one - car accident theory

[epiphany]

PB: "...is not totally convinced of that either." - H on lap>car accident theory
Stacy: school officials would be believed - whomever they say picked up H, then would believe school officials