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Old 06-04-2010, 09:52 PM
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Thank you, Salem, we are a little busy tonight.
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As I recall hearing interrogations can be particularly ...umm.....painful, in Peru

I say, waterboard him till he tells both sets of parents evrything they want to know.!
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:57 PM
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Lol, I get sick to my stomach every time I think about the methods used in other countries.
BUT i did hear thru the grapevine they were waxing the water board.
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:58 PM
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Lol, I get sick to my stomach every time I think about the methods used in other countries.
BUT i did hear thru the grapevine they were waxing the water board.

Darn.....what do they have left in their bag of tricks?
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:00 PM
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Darn.....what do they have left in their bag of tricks?
the 'rack' maybe, some places are still 500 hundred years behind
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:01 PM
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the 'rack' maybe, some places are still 500 hundred years behind

Yeah! If ya ask me...they have it right!
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gretas on, but i am sure it will be awhile before she get to Joran.
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the 'rack' maybe, some places are still 500 hundred years behind
Didn't we hear they still have dungeons available.
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Lol, I get sick to my stomach every time I think about the methods used in other countries.
BUT i did hear thru the grapevine they were waxing the water board.
When I hear what he did to the young lady with the baseball bat, I have NO problem with waterboarding. It sounds much more pleasant than what Stephany went thru.

In this procedure, the individual is bound securely to an inclined bench, which is approximately four feet by seven feet. The individual's feet are generally elevated. A cloth is placed over the forehead and eyes. Water is then applied to the cloth in a controlled manner. As this is done, the cloth is lowered until it covers both the nose and mouth. Once the cloth is saturated and completely covers the mouth and nose, air flow is slightly restricted for 20 to 40 seconds due to the presence of the cloth... During those 20 to 40 seconds, water is continuously applied from a height of twelve to twenty-four inches. After this period, the cloth is lifted, and the individual is allowed to breathe unimpeded for three or four full breaths... The procedure may then be repeated. The water is usually applied from a canteen cup or small watering can with a spout. This procedure would not last more than twenty minutes in any one application.

A couple rounds and he'll soon be chatting about both cases (IMHO).

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going on what i heard on greta if i heard it right, mark said, he was told she hit her head on the bed frame which is wood, but it was hard enough they suspected with human force.
you don't think that drunk fell on her? its got me wondering.
he looks totally intoxicated. why would she go there with him?
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Anita van der Sloot: Suspected Killer's Mom Shocked by New Allegations in Stephany Flores Murder
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De Rooij says that Anita van der Sloot spoke to her son via telephone Thursday but would not give details about the conversation except to say that Joran "certainly did not" confess to killing 21-year-old Stephany Flores, according to the Dutch News.
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:00 PM
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read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20006804
Just the headline alone ~ why should she be shocked? Has she really been in that much denial about what he could be capable of?
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Just the headline alone ~ why should she be shocked? Has she really been in that much denial about what he could be capable of?
probably shock that he would actually be held accountable for something.
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Just the headline alone ~ why should she be shocked? Has she really been in that much denial about what he could be capable of?
I have known so many parents who are blind to their little darlings' nefarious ways. I wonder if this event with VDS is the ultimate consequence of enabling kids. Not to blame his mother for everything, but maybe this could've been nipped in the bud years ago. Wonder if both mom and dad babied and excused everything he did when he was younger. I notice that JVDS is really huggy and clingy with his mom. I find that odd. It's not as though he were an abused child who never learned to bond with humans! I'm a firm believer in NOT enabling others. They need to suffer consequences of their behaviors without us parents trying to interfere with necessary life lessons.
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I have known so many parents who are blind to their little darlings' nefarious ways. I wonder if this event with VDS is the ultimate consequence of enabling kids. Not to blame his mother for everything, but maybe this could've been nipped in the bud years ago. Wonder if both mom and dad babied and excused everything he did when he was younger. I notice that JVDS is really huggy and clingy with his mom. I find that odd. It's not as though he were an abused child who never learned to bond with humans! I'm a firm believer in NOT enabling others. They need to suffer consequences of their behaviors without us parents trying to interfere with necessary life lessons.
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I read that Mrs. VDS said that Joran had the whole family terrorized (or words to that effect). Maybe she is afraid to NOT hug him?
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I have known so many parents who are blind to their little darlings' nefarious ways. I wonder if this event with VDS is the ultimate consequence of enabling kids. Not to blame his mother for everything, but maybe this could've been nipped in the bud years ago. Wonder if both mom and dad babied and excused everything he did when he was younger. I notice that JVDS is really huggy and clingy with his mom. I find that odd. It's not as though he were an abused child who never learned to bond with humans! I'm a firm believer in NOT enabling others. They need to suffer consequences of their behaviors without us parents trying to interfere with necessary life lessons.
I kept shaking my head all day...he's 22 years old and he's allegedly killed two innocent girls. What is wrong with this person? How did this happen? He's perfectly normal one day and then the next he's decided to kill? How could no one see?
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As I recall hearing interrogations can be particularly ...umm.....painful, in Peru

I say, waterboard him till he tells both sets of parents evrything they want to know.!
Excellent idea, Linda!!

boy - you guys move fast in posting on these threads....
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Could Feds Have Arrested Van Der Sloot for Extortion Before Peru Murder?

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Thanks so much ~ the video is very good!
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Thanks so much ~ the video is very good!

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Internati...ry?id=10828251 Patty posted this link originally, I copied and pasted here on panthera's post.


Boy that was an up close and personal look at VdS. I am wondering what Body language experts would have to say about VdS licking his lips after his every single answer on the interview. I remember John Ramsey.

Wonder IF he always licked his lip like that PRIOR to the interview??

What a crock about leaving his shoes and Miss Holloway on the beach, and being picked up by his friend/s and driven away.

HE is done, stick a stick in him, he is not tender.

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Thanks so much ~ the video is very good!

I liked this part

"He's going to get a very long sentence in Peru," Black said. "By the time he gets out of jail, if he ever does, this would be a footnote in history."
The lawyer said, however, that the Holloway disappearance could be used "as evidence of proof in Peru," and the Holloway family may ask a Peru court "for a longer sentence because of Natalee's murder
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"He's going to get a very long sentence in Peru," Black said. "By the time he gets out of jail, if he ever does, this would be a footnote in history."
The lawyer said, however, that the Holloway disappearance could be used "as evidence of proof in Peru," and the Holloway family may ask a Peru court "for a longer sentence because of Natalee's murder
A big thank you to Peru and Chile for aprehending this murderer. Peru has some of the toughest prisons in the world: http://channel.nationalgeographic.co...s#tab-Photos/0

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Thanks, Patty.

"Investigators said van der Sloot invited Flores to his room at the Miraflores Hotel Tac to celebrate her winnings. A hotel employee later told police that she heard the couple arguing. Hours later, Flores was dead."
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Thanks, Patty.

"Investigators said van der Sloot invited Flores to his room at the Miraflores Hotel Tac to celebrate her winnings. A hotel employee later told police that she heard the couple arguing. Hours later, Flores was dead."
"To celebrate her winnings", translated, drug her and rob her. MOO
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