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Old 08-12-2004, 11:40 AM
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TX - Missing Fort Worth Three, 1974 - #1

This case is fascinating to me. I would love peoples thoughts on what on earth is going on..........I hope it hasn't already been posted! if it has please just ignore me.

Basic story- 3 girls, one 9 years old (Tracey Ann Moseley) doe link http://doenetwork.us/cases/59dftx.html

Rachel Trilica (17 years old) Doe link http://doenetwork.us/cases/57dftx.html

and Lisa Renne Wilson (14 years old) Doe link http://doenetwork.us/cases/58dftx.html

Went to the mall in Fort Worth, December 1974 and never came back..............

Read the links for more info but a letter was received some time after from Rachel stating they were "getting away for a while" and would be back in a week. They never re-appeared.

This would be fairly straight forward missing persons case but Rachel's brother states that
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"............. several "credible witnesses" say they've spotted Rachel since the disappearance. "One was in 1998 around Christmas," he says.
Rusty and James believe that Rachel visits Fort Worth during the Christmas season each year. James is careful with his words, but he maintains that someone is "shrouding and manufacturing evidence" in what he says was at first an effort to keep the two older girls away. Now he thinks only Rachel survives. He is evasive about what he thinks happened or who he believes can be held accountable.
"I believe that that person facilitates and maintains an effort to keep Rachel Arnold [Trlica] away from Fort Worth. I believe that Renee Wilson is not alive. . . . I believe that something dreadfully wrong, and probably a fatality, occurred involving Julie Ann Moseley," he says"
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This is from the website he's set up- and he's announced he's hired a private investigator and a personal $25,000 reward Here's the link to his site....................
http://www.missingtrio.com/TRIO/index.htm

It infers on the website that Rachel's sister knows what happened. Actually its a v good site. Anyway I'd be interested to hear what you all think........ What could keep a grown woman (as she now would be) away from her home and family? Is her brother suggesting she is being held captive? V confusing and haunting. It would be great to shed some light onto this for their families.

I'm in the UK, so I probably won't pick up your replies till the morning.
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Old 08-12-2004, 06:40 PM
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OMG! What a fascinating case!! Its also quite curious how the youngest missing girl's (Tracey) older sister Debra was involved with Rachael's husband AND was with him when the letter arrived (and why won't Debra take a polygraph like the families asked her too?).

I know theres unfortunately so many tragic missing cases but this seems to have alot of elements that seem tailor made for media and Im surprised it hasnt gotten more coverage.

Thank you for sharing this Emma! I know Im now "hooked" on this case too!
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Old 08-13-2004, 06:30 AM
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Hi Messiecake!

Thanks for posting.......it is weird that this hasn't gotten more media coverage.... the private investigator says that he received anonymous death threats when he tried to create more publicity.......V weird. I also noticed that on the Doe website it states that Rachel's brother (James?) believes that Rachel and Lisa are still alive. Yet on the brothers website it now states that he believes only Rachel survives.........I wonder if Doe made a mistake or whether James believes that Lisa died recently? What does he think she died of I wonder? I've half a mind to mail him through his site and invite him to post.........Bit nervous though!

The letter that Rachel's husband received shortly after their disappearance can only mean 1 of 2 things as far as I'm concerned:
1) It really was sent by Rachel and they decided to dissapear(They then stayed away or met with foul play)

Or

2) The letter is fake and someone who Rachel knew is responsible for their disappearance.

Apparently the handwriting tests were inconclusive..............

Theres no other possible explanations. I don't know of many multiple murderers who go around copying their victims handwriting and sending letters to their victims families to cover their tracks! By definition they're mad and don't care about the victims as "people" at all. It has to be someone they knew- this is the most likely explanation.

What's most interesting is that James believes Rachel is being kept away now. I've been thinking about this and I wonder if he believes that the person responsible has manufactured evidence AGAINST Rachel? This would make sense.Of course the lack of a polygraph test is v v interesting,but not conclusive.

Then again Sherlock Holmes said something like "When you discount the perpostorous and the ridiculous, you are left with the obvious.......and this can be the only explantion"!

Am hooked on the case! Let me know if you come up with anything. Would love to think that at least one of the missing girls is still alive.
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Old 08-13-2004, 09:31 AM
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Emma,
I think contacting him is a great idea! Im not sure just how much info he'd be willing to share(if any) but at worst he could just decline-nothing ventured,nothing gained!! If anything I think he'd welcome the oppertunity to get attention for this case.

In my unprofessional opinion it seems Rachael is indeed the crux of this mystery as it was(supposedly) only her who has since made contact and I think she had some familarity with the person(s) who led the girls away from the mall as the varying ages of the girls (as well as the fact there were 3 of them) would rule out a random abduction
I wonder who invited Tracey(the youngest girl)? I think whoever planned this did not figure on her being there with Rachael.

Rachael is curious herself as she was married and only 17.Although I was married quite young myself I find this interesting and usually an indicator of having led a hard life esp.since she was married to an older divorced man .I wonder if drugs were ever involved?
Has he been polygraphed or questioned ?
Did he and Debra resume their relationship after Rachael "dissapeared"?


James has reason to belive Rachael is alive,why?



We have to try and invite him to the site! This case is a nail-biter!!!
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Old 08-16-2004, 05:57 AM
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Messiecake, I think you're def right about whoever did this not counting on the youngest girl (Tracey) being there. But presuming that the relatives knew that she was, if they were involved, why still go ahead with it?

I would def rule out a random abduction. I would guess that it would take more than one man to abduct 3 girls- one of whom was married and so we can assume reasonably street-smart. Also abducters usually go for easy targets- 3 girls , 2 almost adult, are not east targets to abduct from a busy shopping mall. This would mean that they'd have to have accidentally come across a group of men, (or women!) who wanted to abduct both a child and 2 older girls for (presumably) illicit purposes.......it doesn't make any sense...........And of course theres the letter. This virtually rules out a random abduction.

Debra was quite dismissive of her relationship with Rachels husband, but these things have a tendancy to be blown out of all proportion when you're young, so its not impossible that it is somehow related.............

I think that the brother knows more than is on his website and he's waiting for someone to speak up and confirm his suspicions........I feel for Rachel,if she is in fact still alive, whatever hapenned, it would be almost impossible for her to come back now.........Unless she was a totally innocent victim and I get the feeling from what I've read that this might be not be the case.............I wonder if her brother has actually spoken to her? Its not impossible.

I think I'm going to brave it and invite the brother here sometime this week. I'll let you know how I get on!
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Old 05-20-2005, 04:36 PM
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The letter that Rachel's husband received shortly after their disappearance can only mean 1 of 2 things as far as I'm concerned:
1) It really was sent by Rachel and they decided to dissapear(They then stayed away or met with foul play)

Or

2) The letter is fake and someone who Rachel knew is responsible for their disappearance.

Apparently the handwriting tests were inconclusive..............

Theres no other possible explanations. I don't know of many multiple murderers who go around copying their victims handwriting and sending letters to their victims families to cover their tracks! By definition they're mad and don't care about the victims as "people" at all. It has to be someone they knew- this is the most likely explanation.

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While is it unusual for a multiple murderer to write letters to the family that purports to be from the victim, it is not unknown. John E. Robinson the Internet Slavemaster did it in his 1984/85 murders (link to story: http://www.mayhem.net/Crime/robinson.html)
In a recent cold case in my area the suspected murderer has approached the victim's father a couple of times and asked him if he had heard from his dau. and has told stories of how he has heard of the woman living in an area and being on drugs. Everyone thought the woman had run away, no one knew she had been murdered, because her body had not been found yet. Because she was thought to be alive and missing voluntarily, no one looked for her.
So the purpose of this type of communication seems to be to keep the confusion on what exactly happened, and to provide misdirection in any investigation.
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Old 05-26-2005, 02:12 PM
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http://www.nbc5i.com/news/4534362/detail.html

Wonder if this guy could be connected to the case in any way?
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Old 05-27-2005, 07:18 AM
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Curtis Don Brown - Murderer

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Wonder if this guy could be connected to the case in any way?
I doubt it. The story is about Murderer Curtis Don Brown who has been in prison since killing a nurse in her home in 1986. Recent DNA evidence has linked him to the murder of another woman in Fort Worth in 1985, and police have now opened 18 other cold cases which he may have been involved in - all from the early 1980's.

Brown is now 46 years old and would have been only 15 or 16 when the three girls disappeared from the shopping center. Such an abduction of three young girls does not seem to fit his MO. It is also doubtful if other elements of evidence would fit Brown.

It would be interesting to know where he was at the time. Sometimes Inmate locators list previous incarcerations and convictions. Maybe such a website could provide an answer to his whereabouts and activities in December 1974.
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Old 08-16-2004, 08:10 PM
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I always had an interest in this case, but never saw the brothers website! thanks for posting it.

One of the things I have noticed - when a child dies or disappears, family seem to need to have someone to blame - to be angry with, and i wonder if thats not whats happening here.
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Old 08-17-2004, 07:26 AM
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I always had an interest in this case, but never saw the brothers website! thanks for posting it.

One of the things I have noticed - when a child dies or disappears, family seem to need to have someone to blame - to be angry with, and i wonder if thats not whats happening here.


I agree with you in theory but in this case it seems clear at least one of the girls knew their abductor due to the evidence of the letter.

I am totally hooked on this case! If her brother does register here I wonder if we could get this on a "Case of the Month"??
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Old 08-17-2004, 01:49 PM
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This is a very interesting case indeed. I'd love to be able to talk to someone involved. Hard to believe the 17 year old was married!!! Please do try to get someone to register here and talk to us.
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[quote=messiecake]I agree with you in theory but in this case it seems clear at least one of the girls knew their abductor due to the evidence of the letter.
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you have a point. could the letter be some prank?
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Old 08-19-2004, 06:14 PM
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I sent an e-mail

I sent an e-mail to the two e-mail address on the website maybe we will hear from them soon. I remember this case from when I was a kid and overheard parents talking and stuff. We use to go to Denton Texas to visit relatives and was there during this time. I have not heard a word over the years so it is strange that there was never any media. I wonder why?
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Old 08-20-2004, 06:01 AM
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I'd also sent an email to them so hopefully they should get back to us. I did notice though that the last update on the site was 2002...........I wonder whats going on?
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Old 08-23-2004, 09:54 AM
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I sent an e-mail to the two e-mail address on the website maybe we will hear from them soon. I remember this case from when I was a kid and overheard parents talking and stuff. We use to go to Denton Texas to visit relatives and was there during this time. I have not heard a word over the years so it is strange that there was never any media. I wonder why?
Kat, its not that unusual for back then. My sister disappeared in 1984 and there were only about a dozen newspaper articles in total. There was no internet then, no CSI, no television shows like America's Most Wanted and no instant news like there is now. There were no victim's rights or psychological counsellors that they send to your house. And there was definately no "how to" kit to tell you how to deal with the media, the "psychics," or all the freaks calling in "helpful tips."
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It has been 30 years they have been missing. It is sad that their families have spent the past 30 years not knowing what happened to them.
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Just came across these three missing girls while I was looking through the Texas Department of Public Safety.

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has the 'missingtrio' site been disabled?

I can't make it load.

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Old 05-19-2005, 10:26 PM
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I couldn't get into it either. I guess they closed it down?
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Old 05-19-2005, 10:46 PM
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The site is archived though. Try this:

http://web.archive.org/web/200402031...TRIO/index.htm

If the above link doesn't work, let me know.
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Exclamation Missing Trio 1974

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http://www.missingtrio.com/
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Georgiagirl, there is already a thread for this. I just bumped it to the top for your convenience.
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I'm bumping this with the 31st anniversary of their dissapearances coming up.
Rachel would be/will be 48, Lisa 45, and Julie 40. Someone out there knows what happened to them, their families have spent too many holidays without them. They deserve to know where they are.
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I'm bumping this with the 31st anniversary of their dissapearances coming up.
Rachel would be/will be 48, Lisa 45, and Julie 40. Someone out there knows what happened to them, their families have spent too many holidays without them. They deserve to know where they are.
I'm fairly certain someone knows what happened to them, but without any evidence the police can't do anything about it.

I was about 12 or 13 when this happened, and lived in Dallas, Texas. My parents, and those of my friends, didn't want us venturing very far from home after that. We had a small shopping center near our house, and my friends and I used to walk up there and go to the drug store and the five & dime, but after this happened, we were forbidden to go there unless a parent went along.

Up until the time these three girls disappeared, my parents always felt it was pretty safe to let me go places with my friends. I guess they believed there was "safety in numbers". But when three girls were abducted together, that changed everything.
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This is a case that I find so sad. As much as I would like to think one of the girls could be alive I find that hard to believe. The girls car was found right were they said they were going. In the car were items they had picked up from another store that had been on layway for one of the girls. This supports they went and were doing exactly what they said they were doing. If the older girls had other plans, such as doing drugs or running away I don't think they would have taken 9 year old Julie Ann with them. Had an x boyfriend or other known person decided to do something to one of the girls I find it unlikly he/she would choose to do it when that person is out with two other people. I think Richards scinerio "The far more likely scenario is that all three girls were abducted by a person or persons who subsequently killed them." is far more likley. I would be curious if there are records of other missing females at that time in Texas or unsolved and unexplained murders of females. What a sad case.

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