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Old 10-26-2011, 03:33 PM
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Lisa's Parents Want New Detectives

Sorry if this has already been posted... couldn't locate it. I just ran across this article that was posted a short time ago...


http://www.people.com/people/article...540037,00.html

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Old 10-26-2011, 03:39 PM
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Yeah and I want a different cuter policeman to give me the speeding tickets..I want a different IRS agent to look at my case..I want a different boss ..I want a different ....
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Old 10-26-2011, 03:44 PM
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Apologies for the weird title... friggin keyboard.
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Apologies for the weird title... friggin keyboard.
When I first read the title I thought it was a typo, but thought you were addressing the Alyssa Lumford (I probably messed that one up too) case from WV
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I fixed it!

And I can't help repeating the famous line my grammy used to always use when I would say I wanted something.............


Yea? How does it feel to want?


sorry, couldn't help it - first thing that came to my mind as I used that on my kids throughout the years as well.
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Old 10-26-2011, 03:52 PM
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I fixed it!

And I can't help repeating the famous line my grammy used to always use when I would say I wanted something.............


Yea? How does it feel to want?


sorry, couldn't help it - first thing that came to my mind as I used that on my kids throughout the years as well.
Thanks for the edit! Sometimes my mind works faster than my fingers!

A few questions... is it reasonable to request new detectives in a criminal case? (Honestly I shake my head as I even type this!) and would they get new detectives?
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Thanks for the edit! Sometimes my mind works faster than my fingers!

A few questions... is it reasonable to request new detectives in a criminal case? (Honestly I shake my head as I even type this!) and would they get new detectives?
Yes. Amber Dubois mom (Carrie) took her case to the FBI because she was fed up with local LE.
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Yes. Amber Dubois mom (Carrie) took her case to the FBI because she was fed up with local LE.
BUT the FBI is already involved in this one! moo
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BUT the FBI is already involved in this one! moo
Initially all LE agencies get involved because this is a missing child case. An Amber Alert was issued and it was considered an abduction. I don't know at what point a federal agency steps aside and lets local LE handle the case. My guess is when local LE tells them the crime is local and no evidence is presented to suggest a suspect has crossed State lines.

Many of the other cases I've followed and continue to follow had FBI involvement but then it was left to local LE to solve.
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Yes. Amber Dubois mom (Carrie) took her case to the FBI because she was fed up with local LE.
Sorry, I don't know much about Amber's case. How long was she missing before her mother requested FBI help?

Even though it's been a little over three weeks since Baby Lisa vanished, an eternity for most, it's it a bit soon to start requesting new investigator's?

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Sorry, I don't know much about Amber's case. How long was she missing before her mother requested FBI help?

Even though it's been a little over three weeks since Baby Lisa vanished, an eternity for most, it's it a bit soon to start requesting new investigator's?

JMHO
I don't recall off hand. Local LE were on the "runaway" theory and at the same time looked at her stepfather as a person of interest. Family was totally innocent

She was murdered by a registered sex offender. He murdered another girl shortly after Amber.

Cops do get it wrong sometimes.
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Yes. Amber Dubois mom (Carrie) took her case to the FBI because she was fed up with local LE.
i had never heard of this case,so i went and watched an episode of 48 hours mystery about it.i think i cried just about the whole 40 mins.

stranger danger is real but its still not changed my opinion of these 2.

these girls parents/step parents did everything that DB/JI SHOULD be doing,yet they are throwing tantrums and worrying about themselves
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i had never heard of this case,so i went and watched an episode of 48 hours mystery about it.i think i cried just about the whole 40 mins.

stranger danger is real but its still not changed my opinion of these 2.

these girls parents/step parents did everything that DB/JI SHOULD be doing,yet they are throwing tantrums and worrying about themselves
I respect your opinion but have to disagree. If the Press release is true regarding what these parents did then I believe they have done everything in their power to ensure they get ruled out so LE can focus on finding their daughter.

There is still that struggle going on with LE and until that is resolved, I don't know how much more they can do. Unfortunately, they had to get an attorney because LE were pointing the finger at mom.

The attorney set up a website, media is all over the case, they made pleas in the early days, flyers have been posted, LE did a door to door canvassing of the neighbourhood. What else can a parent do but rely on LE? Where does one even begin to search when the ones who are supposed to help you think you killed your child?

I don't know if they're guilty. So far, I have not seen real factual evidence to point to their guilt and until then even if I think some of the story is screwy, I will continue to believe they are not involved. Someone took Lisa and she needs to be found..........YESTERDAY!

I wish they would hire a PI whose only focus is to find Lisa. Deep down, I like to believe there is one looking for her and it's being kept a secret. It makes me feel better knowing that.
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IMHO this represents another act of putting themselves first over finding Baby Lisa. Now if they said the detectives weren't doing all they could to find baby Lisa, I would understand. However, my understanding of it is:

They don't mind being interviewed separately as long as the detectives are fair, open-minded and non-accusatory, she said.

What does that mean? As long as LE interviews them in a manner THEY deem acceptable?

It just reminds me that this isn't about baby Lisa, but the comfort of the parents.

Just my opinion.

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Source: http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/26/justic...html?hpt=hp_t2
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IMHO this represents another act of putting themselves first over finding Baby Lisa. Now if they said the detectives weren't doing all they could to find baby Lisa, I would understand. However, my understanding of it is:

They don't mind being interviewed separately as long as the detectives are fair, open-minded and non-accusatory, she said.

What does that mean? As long as LE interviews them in a manner THEY deem acceptable?

It just reminds me that this isn't about baby Lisa, but the comfort of the parents.

Just my opinion.

Mel

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/26/justic...html?hpt=hp_t2

There's a thread about the separate interviews

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The parents reaction is not any different than other moms, dads when their children are missing and it seems LE's only focus is on the parents or a family member or they're not getting any answers from LE.

We just have to look at so many other cases. Holly Bobo's mom wanted the President of the United States help find her daughter.
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The parents reaction is not any different than other moms, dads when their children are missing and it seems LE's only focus is on the parents or a family member or they're not getting any answers from LE.

We just have to look at so many other cases. Holly Bobo's mom wanted the President of the United States help find her daughter.
IIRC, the McCanns wanted to meet with the Pope when Madeleine went missing.
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IIRC, the McCanns wanted to meet with the Pope when Madeleine went missing.
Yes but not to get help searching for their daughter but for spritual purposes.
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Sorry if this has already been posted... couldn't locate it. I just ran across this article that was posted a short time ago...


http://www.people.com/people/article...540037,00.html
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Yeah and I want a different cuter policeman to give me the speeding tickets..I want a different IRS agent to look at my case..I want a different boss ..I want a different ....
That is outrageous! The thought of it is laughable, if it wasn't about a missing baby! Reminds me of a little kid throwing a tantrum!

Sorry, it doens't work that way people! Ugh
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IMHO this represents another act of putting themselves first over finding Baby Lisa. Now if they said the detectives weren't doing all they could to find baby Lisa, I would understand. However, my understanding of it is:

They don't mind being interviewed separately as long as the detectives are fair, open-minded and non-accusatory, she said.

What does that mean? As long as LE interviews them in a manner THEY deem acceptable?

It just reminds me that this isn't about baby Lisa, but the comfort of the parents.

Just my opinion.

Mel

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/26/justic...html?hpt=hp_t2
100% agree with you,i think even if LE met all their "needs" they still wouldn't answer questions.
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IMHO this represents another act of putting themselves first over finding Baby Lisa. Now if they said the detectives weren't doing all they could to find baby Lisa, I would understand. However, my understanding of it is:

They don't mind being interviewed separately as long as the detectives are fair, open-minded and non-accusatory, she said.

What does that mean? As long as LE interviews them in a manner THEY deem acceptable?

It just reminds me that this isn't about baby Lisa, but the comfort of the parents.

Just my opinion.

Mel

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/26/justic...html?hpt=hp_t2
Gah, I resent that. I'm sick of people blaming trained professionals because they can't control things. I totally agree with you and I've thought this from the beginning.
Anyone who behaves the way, they have, can blame themselves for the way things are going.
I'm sure the detectives would like a different case too.
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Gah, I resent that. I'm sick of people blaming trained professionals because they can't control things. I totally agree with you and I've thought this from the beginning.
Anyone who behaves the way, they have, can blame themselves for the way things are going.
I'm sure the detectives would like a different case too.


ITA. These two unusual individuals have wasted precious time. They have squandered any empathy I could have spared for them. I have seen and heard too much nonsense to ever believe they are innocent in the disappearance of this baby.
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Uhhhh...people in "h e double hockey sticks" want ice water too. There are times when LE is interrogating someone and they hit a little too close to home. They have someone's number, so to speak. That becomes very uncomfortable...but only to the guilty. JMOO
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