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Possible Custody Battle over JI's son (MERGED)
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Good for her! It won't help his case for custody that he is refusing to cooperate with LE on the search for his missing daughter.
It does concern me that family is talking like the potential battle is for partial custody or for more contact with the boy, instead of full custody. Is there some reason that makes the mother believe that she wouldn't get full custody?
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Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?
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Good for her! It won't help his case for custody that he is refusing to cooperate with LE on the search for his missing daughter.
It does concern me that family is talking like the potential battle is for partial custody or for more contact with the boy, instead of full custody. Is there some reason that makes the mother believe that she wouldn't get full custody?
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She didn't the last time and JI hasn't done anything that would change that order. Just my opinion but he had ammo to be able to get custody in the first place and she may have corrected the problem to the point she might be allowed more contact, but knows she can't get full custody.
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She didn't the last time and JI hasn't done anything that would change that order. Just my opinion but he had ammo to be able to get custody in the first place and she may have corrected the problem to the point she might be allowed more contact, but knows she can't get full custody.
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There had to be a very good reason for her to not get custody, of some sort. IF she were to regain custody, hopefully nothing will happen to the boy. A mother proven to not get custody over a son in court against a father who was granted full custody in court. hhhhmmmm
Should he be tried on specultion rather than fact? Do courts work that way?
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There had to be a very good reason for her to not get custody, of some sort. IF she were to regain custody, hopefully nothing will happen to the boy. A mother proven to not get custody over a son in court against a father who was granted full custody in court. hhhhmmmm
Should he be tried on specultion rather than fact? Do courts work that way?
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I believe that he was awarded custody by default, she didn't show up.
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I believe that he was awarded custody by default, she didn't show up.
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Hmmmmmm didn't care enough to even show up maybe? That seems like a VERY important court date to keep.
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I believe that he was awarded custody by default, she didn't show up.
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That speaks volumes; they called Jeremy ruthless but she was apathetic.
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I believe that he was awarded custody by default, she didn't show up.
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Wow, that just proves JI was "ruthless" about getting custody doesn't it?
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It's not going to amount to much of a battle if she doesn't file any court papers.
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It's not going to amount to much of a battle if she doesn't file any court papers.
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Well cant Jeremy just say ok..I dont think he wants to go to court for neglect leaving the kids home with a mommy thats drunk. And having his daughter disappear... Just my opinion
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Well cant Jeremy just say ok..I dont think he wants to go to court for neglect leaving the kids home with a mommy thats drunk. And having his daughter disappear... Just my opinion
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If JI's son's mother has a good lawyer, that is exactly what they will do---go to court for neglect. moo
I feel terrible for the other son......his sister is missing and now his his half brother will be maybe be gone more. Sad no matter how one looks at it. moo
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If JI's son's mother has a good lawyer, that is exactly what they will do---go to court for neglect. moo
I feel terrible for the other son......his sister is missing and now his his half brother will be maybe be gone more. Sad no matter how one looks at it. moo
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That's his step brother ,not half brother, and they haven't been together that long. Around 2 yrs or less if I recall correctly (and I may not!)
ETA: have to correct myself ! The boys are NOT step brothers .DB and JI are not married.
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That's his step brother ,not half brother, and they haven't been together that long. Around 2 yrs or less if I recall correctly (and I may not!)
ETA: have to correct myself ! The boys are NOT step brothers .DB and JI are not married.
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Do children really think in terms of the labels that others ascribe to them? Kids are kids, they see a brother not a term used by some parts of the population.
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Well cant Jeremy just say ok..I dont think he wants to go to court for neglect leaving the kids home with a mommy thats drunk. And having his daughter disappear... Just my opinion
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Most definitely this can happen without going to court. This would probably be best to settle this without going to court too. If JI doesn't want to submit to depositions or questions about Lisa's disappearance he will likely want to settle this without doing so.
That may be why no papers have been filed, and mom is still saying that she would be willing to settle for a joint custody/more time with mom-type deal.
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Anyone know why she lost custody?
These poor kids!
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Anyone know why she lost custody?
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The timing is awful for this poor little guy who has enough going on in his life. Good question about custody, it always speaks volumes when a mother does not have custody or visitations with a child, who does that. I could not go a day without seeing my kids, let alone have someone else raise them. It would be interesting to hear how or why JI got custody of this son.
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The timing is awful for this poor little guy who has enough going on in his life. Good question about custody, it always speaks volumes when a mother does not have custody or visitations with a child, who does that. I could not go a day without seeing my kids, let alone have someone else raise them. It would be interesting to hear how or why JI got custody of this son.
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You are right. So now "mom" is going to do the little guy justice and take him away from his brother and the life he has known? There is a lot more to being mother than giving birth. So DB took a night off and is paying the price (but I can't say it would have changed anything). What about this woman who has been away for years? Chances are she doesn't have a leg to stand on. The judge will want to see evidence and will not take all these allegations flying around.
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You are right. So now "mom" is going to do the little guy justice and take him away from his brother and the life he has known? There is a lot more to being mother than giving birth. So DB took a night off and is paying the price (but I can't say it would have changed anything). What about this woman who has been away for years? Chances are she doesn't have a leg to stand on. The judge will want to see evidence and will not take all these allegations flying around.
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DB did not just "take a night off". Taking a night off is leaving another responsible party to care for your children. DB left three minor children without care, one an infant who she failed to protect by her actions. As a parent, you don't get to do that. IMO, that is called neglect and there are provisions in MO law to remedy that.
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DB did not just "take a night off". Taking a night off is leaving another responsible party to care for your children. DB left three minor children without care, one an infant who she failed to protect by her actions. As a parent, you don't get to do that. IMO, that is called neglect and there are provisions in MO law to remedy that.
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I don't drink and I raised 5 kids; most my own. But I can tell you if they take away peoples children because they drink (not to mention worse) get ready because they are going to take away half or more of the populations children. I don't excuse her for doing so but at least she put her down for the night before starting the wine party. I've heard of people being so messed up they baked their kids in the oven, cooked them in the microwave and all kinds are crazy stuff or just didn't know any better than leave them to explode in the car in hot weather while they visited a hospital patient. I just don't think drinking wine to the point of maybe being drunk equals killing your child.
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DB did not just "take a night off". Taking a night off is leaving another responsible party to care for your children. DB left three minor children without care, one an infant who she failed to protect by her actions. As a parent, you don't get to do that. IMO, that is called neglect and there are provisions in MO law to remedy that.
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bbm = No she didn't. She didn't leave the children at all. No one can say if she was or was not capable of dealing with whatever happened to her children...except of course if she was sleeping and someone took her child, which could have happened if she had one glass of wine or 50 imo
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Anyone know why she lost custody?
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Do we know if she "lost" custody?
There are occasions where the custody isn't decided by a court of law. I've known women who have turned over custody to the father for a variety of reasons: financial, health issues or travel requirements for jobs of family demands.
Case in point is Kyron's mom who was ill and could not provide a home while she recovering.
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more lawyers, this time on baby Lisa's side... bring it
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Has anyone seen a pic of baby lisa being held by mommy all i have seen she is alone in a seat or standing at the door. Usually they give out a pic of the child with Mommy.
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Has anyone seen a pic of baby lisa being held by mommy all i have seen she is alone in a seat or standing at the door. Usually they give out a pic of the child with Mommy.
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It doesn't surprise me if there are no recent pictures of Lisa being held by her mother. I don't have any myself with my daughter (except for trips here and there and of course when they were born). I'm usually the one taking pictures and rarely in them.
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It doesn't surprise me if there are no recent pictures of Lisa being held by her mother. I don't have any myself with my daughter (except for trips here and there and of course when they were born). I'm usually the one taking pictures and rarely in them.
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With cameras on cell phones today pictures are possible... she is under a year old. It would humanize the mom a bit more i think.
I hear what your saying tho but i find it odd JMO
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