Websleuths
Go Back   Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community > Current Events > Crimes in the News

Notices

Crimes in the News Read and comment about current crimes committed. Remember the copyright laws when posting news stories!


Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-10-2012, 11:49 PM
fran fran is offline
WS Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: San Diego
Posts: 31,302
MI - Woman, Jane Bashara, Found Strangled - #2

Please continue here.



http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...O01/201270393/

Police 'looking at everything' in death of Grosse Pointe Park woman


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1kgs2tOvb

Mystery over death of suburban wife and mother found strangled in her Mercedes Benz


http://www.freep.com/article/2012012...sey=nav%7Chead

Police: Husband of Grosse Pointe Park woman strangled to death is a suspect


http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/...#ixzz1kmEApciU

Source says murdered Grosse Pointe Park woman's husband failed polygraph


http://www.freep.com/article/2012012...Bashara-murder

Family: Husband of strangled Grosse Pointe Park woman 'incapable' of murder


.................................................. .................................................. .
.................................................. .................................................. .

MI - Woman, Jane Bashara, Found Strangled in Her Car; husband is POI - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
Jane Bashara - #1
The Following 13 Users Say Thank You to fran For This Useful Post:
  #2  
Old 02-11-2012, 12:15 AM
caspermi caspermi is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 14
Could be a pivotal weekend for BB. One of the news reports indicated that BB would be talking to his kids about Rachel. Here's what his attorney said, "The situation with Rachel is bothersome, and we'll comment after Bob has an opportunity to discuss that with his kids this weekend," said Griem.

I would think there is the possibility that his children will start questioning and doubting dad and their support may wane. My guess that the first may be the daughter as she was very close with her mother (they went to Europe together) and may have known about some of the problems in the marriage. Plus they've had time to digest the pictures of dad with RG at her daughters NY Eve wedding when he was supposed to be golfing with his buddies. I'm sure it would be devastating to him if they both abandoned him.
The Following 13 Users Say Thank You to caspermi For This Useful Post:
  #3  
Old 02-11-2012, 12:38 AM
angelindisguyz's Avatar
angelindisguyz angelindisguyz is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 177
Ya know, I wonder what her last New Years eve was like while he was dancing the night away? Hope she wasn't alone.

Wonder what the questioning will be for the Thrift or Donation store? Asking if BB was around there or who all knew about a hit for hire?
The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to angelindisguyz For This Useful Post:
  #4  
Old 02-11-2012, 12:46 AM
angelindisguyz's Avatar
angelindisguyz angelindisguyz is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 177
Quote:
Police were tipped off about Gentz's possible involvement when Robert Bashara's former attorney, John Brusstar, sent investigators a letter explaining that the handyman might come forward to claim he was paid to kill Jane Bashara, the source said.
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...ETRO/202080359


I never knew that!!! Why didn't he keep that attorney, I wonder.....

Also, how would he know in advance that JG was going to say he was paid to do it?
The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to angelindisguyz For This Useful Post:
  #5  
Old 02-11-2012, 12:59 AM
lauriej lauriej is offline
'wild rose country...'
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 3,855
Quote:
Originally Posted by angelindisguyz View Post
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...ETRO/202080359


I never knew that!!! Why didn't he keep that attorney, I wonder.....

Also, how would he know in advance that JG was going to say he was paid to do it?
..yeah, that was bizarre!

..also, when it was 'leaked by sources' that joe had been paid $2000.00 to kill jane-----griem couldn't wait to come up w/ a $2000.00 excuse ( at his 90 minute talk-fest P/C last friday..)

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news...rning-20110203

"Griem, Bashara's attorney, said Gentz wanted $2,000 for work he had done. Gentz and Bob Bashara met on Monday. Bashara gave him a check for $452. Griem said maybe that wasn't enough and Gentz went to Bashara's house Tuesday night looking for more.

"What about Joe not being satisfied with the money and arriving at the Bashara home just as Jane's pulls in, an argument ensuing and Jane's body being found where it was found?" Griem suggested."

..now that the amount has changed to $8000, i wonder what we'll hear from griem on that..
__________________
my opinion...........and i happen to agree with it.....
The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to lauriej For This Useful Post:
  #6  
Old 02-11-2012, 01:11 AM
lauriej lauriej is offline
'wild rose country...'
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 3,855
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2012 ... CFRONTPAGE

Griem attacks authorities for botching Bashara investigation

Quote:
The attorney for Bob Bashara blasted authorities Friday for their handling of the investigation into the slaying of his client's wife and for leaking information in what he called an attempt to smear the Grosse Pointe Park businessman.

"It's like Swiss cheese. It's like being on the Titanic. And the leaks are meant to sound incriminating," David Griem said. "They are calculated. They are an effort to smear Bob, to establish negative public opinion and contaminate the potential jury pool out there."
__________________
my opinion...........and i happen to agree with it.....
The Following 11 Users Say Thank You to lauriej For This Useful Post:
  #7  
Old 02-11-2012, 12:18 PM
Velouria's Avatar
Velouria Velouria is offline
Don't Drink the Pinellas Punch!
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: sitting on a cornflake
Posts: 2,376
Quote:
Originally Posted by lauriej View Post
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2012 ... CFRONTPAGE

Griem attacks authorities for botching Bashara investigation

Quote:
The attorney for Bob Bashara blasted authorities Friday for their handling of the investigation into the slaying of his client's wife and for leaking information in what he called an attempt to smear the Grosse Pointe Park businessman.

"It's like Swiss cheese. It's like being on the Titanic. And the leaks are meant to sound incriminating," David Griem said. "They are calculated. They are an effort to smear Bob, to establish negative public opinion and contaminate the potential jury pool out there."
Like being on the Titanic, eh Mr. Griem?

I think we know who's in charge of arranging the deck chairs.

Every time this guy opens his mouth, he sinks Bob's ship just a little bit more!
__________________


"I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
-Martin Luther King, Jr.


The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Velouria For This Useful Post:
  #8  
Old 02-11-2012, 07:10 AM
Belinda's Avatar
Belinda Belinda is offline
Doer of Things
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Maryland
Posts: 5,685
BB must be so pleased that he found an attorney as sleazy as he is.
__________________
Forum: Jury Room
Thread: Most interesting classic unsolved murder cases

This thread currently has over 350 cases with a brief synopsis of each and we are still adding additional cases.

You can access a spreadsheet that lists the cases in alphabetical order with the page & post number so that you can locate a particular case you may be interested in. It also contains links to any cases that already have a thread on WS.

Many cases do not have a thread. Please feel free to start one in the appropriate forum if you would like to look into one. Should you start a thread on one of these cases, please let me know so that I can add the link to the spreadsheet.

Here is the link for the spreadsheet in alphabetical order:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...hl=en_US#gid=0


Here is the link for the spreadsheet in country order:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FBBcGVid0lmUHc
=======================================

Forum: Jury Room
Thread: Cold But Not Too Old Murder Case List

This is a listing of newer but still cold cases. As with the above thread we will be adding as we go along. Most of these cases will probably have threads. If you do start a new one, please let me know so I can add the link to the spreadsheets. The spreadsheets may be accessed from the links below.

Here is the link for the spreadsheet in alphabetical order:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...mlNV2lSQ1dDWHc

Here is the link for the spreadsheet in country order:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FBIaHRnR1g0SEE
The Following 11 Users Say Thank You to Belinda For This Useful Post:
  #9  
Old 02-11-2012, 08:36 AM
Nieschk Nieschk is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 30
I guess my questions are this... (sorry if they have been asked and answered already)

Why exactly was Joe released?
Is Joe able to produce any of the money he claims he received for murdering Jane?
If Joe's story is starting to fall into place, what if anything is being done to corroborate the remaining parts?
Why did it take so long for LE to go back and examine the garage for DNA evidence?
I do not recall any statements indicating that JB died other than by strangulation and that she had bruising over her body so why collect blood samples from the garage other than to eliminate Joe or bb?
Are there any marks on Joe or bb indicating they may have been scratched by JB?

Thanks, Nieschk
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Nieschk For This Useful Post:
  #10  
Old 02-11-2012, 08:53 AM
Bravo's Avatar
Bravo Bravo is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,633
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nieschk View Post
I guess my questions are this... (sorry if they have been asked and answered already)

Why exactly was Joe released?
Is Joe able to produce any of the money he claims he received for murdering Jane?
If Joe's story is starting to fall into place, what if anything is being done to corroborate the remaining parts?
Why did it take so long for LE to go back and examine the garage for DNA evidence?
I do not recall any statements indicating that JB died other than by strangulation and that she had bruising over her body so why collect blood samples from the garage other than to eliminate Joe or bb?
Are there any marks on Joe or bb indicating they may have been scratched by JB?

Thanks, Nieschk
I wish we had answers to those questions. The only thing i read regarding Joe's release was that he had given several stories. Since then it seems to be coming together. I do believe there was a report early in that Joe's jacket was scratched/torn and turned over to LE. Other than that I dont believe we have the answers. Anything to add or clarify anyone? Oh and there was a statement that Joe's story was coming together as to his movement that night. I assume security camera has helped with some of his whereabouts.
__________________
All posts are my opinion only unless supported by a link
Keep calm and carry on
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Bravo For This Useful Post:
  #11  
Old 02-11-2012, 09:15 AM
Bravo's Avatar
Bravo Bravo is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,633
Griems states money not a motive

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/...ered-wife-jane
__________________
All posts are my opinion only unless supported by a link
Keep calm and carry on
The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to Bravo For This Useful Post:
  #12  
Old 02-11-2012, 10:43 PM
fran fran is offline
WS Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: San Diego
Posts: 31,302
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bravo View Post

LOL, this guy thinks people reading this news article just fell of the turnip truck yesterday and haven't a clue!

When a wife divorces her husband for having an affair, she takes her income with her. She takes 1/2 of the marital assets and usually the family home. Kids already in college, not a problem for custody, but there is that college bill to pay and because of the length of the marriage, it would be alimony, most likely, for Ms. Bashara for the rest of Bob's life.

Now, with Jane dead, $100K to pay off the college bills and the marital assets all go to Bob.

Now, what was that about no monetary motive?

That's what I thought.

JMHO
fran


PS...Oh, and as far as Mrs. Bashara..........I would HOPE whoever is trying to spread these wild rumors about the possibility that JB MAY have had an,....outside interest, be stopped immediately. Seeeee........Jane's family doesn't have to tell anyone that Jane wasn't having an affair. The only reason that BS is being thrown around is to take the attention off the widower and his 'secret life, secret mistress, plans to leave his wife, or at the least, have a third bed partner, two of which Jane was NOT aware of.' Yeah, disgusting attempt to sully Jane's good name!
  #13  
Old 02-12-2012, 10:51 AM
Bravo's Avatar
Bravo Bravo is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,633
Despicable to slam a victim We can guess which camp this came from. The only thing i can take from it is it really shows who bob is and just how low he is.
__________________
All posts are my opinion only unless supported by a link
Keep calm and carry on
The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to Bravo For This Useful Post:
  #14  
Old 02-13-2012, 08:53 AM
Nieschk Nieschk is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 30
The fact that JB had insurance policies totaling less than 100k doesn't even make sense or sound right for a woman making 120k a year. Either way, people have killed for far less money. Griem, seems so incompetent. As far as bb goes... as the judge said to CA in her trial, "the truth and Ms Anthony are strangers".
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Nieschk For This Useful Post:
  #15  
Old 02-11-2012, 10:09 AM
TracyLynnS's Avatar
TracyLynnS TracyLynnS is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 485
Jane's family released a statement yesterday. I apologize if this has already been posted. I got kinda goofed up when we switched over to the 2nd thread.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/i...z/-/index.html

After recent comments made to the media about Jane our family feels compelled to respond.

It is well-known in our family that Bob and Jane did not have a perfect marriage.

Over the last several years, our family has observed an obvious change in Bob and Jane’s relationship.

We, as a family, are certain that Jane would have chosen to end her marriage rather than participate in an open marriage. We are unaware of any other man in Jane’s life and sincerely believe we would have known about any such person due to our close relationship with our sister/daughter.

We are confident that anyone who knows Jane would agree that she held herself to the highest ideals of honesty, loyalty, ethics and morals.

Any comments made to the contrary should be met with disbelief.


More at the link, including the family asking the media to stop harassing the victim's elderly parents for a story.
The Following 18 Users Say Thank You to TracyLynnS For This Useful Post:
  #16  
Old 02-11-2012, 10:34 AM
Bravo's Avatar
Bravo Bravo is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,633
No worries Tracy. It is always good to bring the Victim and Family to the forefront Welcome too by the way
__________________
All posts are my opinion only unless supported by a link
Keep calm and carry on
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Bravo For This Useful Post:
  #17  
Old 02-11-2012, 10:35 AM
Bravo's Avatar
Bravo Bravo is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,633
I hope nobody minds but i usually shorten board names when responding.
__________________
All posts are my opinion only unless supported by a link
Keep calm and carry on
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to Bravo For This Useful Post:
  #18  
Old 02-11-2012, 10:38 AM
Bravo's Avatar
Bravo Bravo is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,633
Griems states Money not a Motive. I beg to differ. Griems mentions the amount of Life Insurance. Are there other policies he just didn't mention? Could Jane of had one thru work? If Bob's plan had worked out having 3 incomes under one roof might bring in a motivating sum. MOO
__________________
All posts are my opinion only unless supported by a link
Keep calm and carry on
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to Bravo For This Useful Post:
  #19  
Old 02-11-2012, 12:07 PM
michmi's Avatar
michmi michmi is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Waterford, MI
Posts: 1,250
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bravo View Post
Griems states Money not a Motive. I beg to differ. Griems mentions the amount of Life Insurance. Are there other policies he just didn't mention? Could Jane of had one thru work? If Bob's plan had worked out having 3 incomes under one roof might bring in a motivating sum. MOO
The life insurance certainly could "set up shop" for BB and his little harem. I also recall that Rachel's ads looking for a 2nd woman also required that the woman have a job.
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to michmi For This Useful Post:
  #20  
Old 02-11-2012, 10:45 AM
TracyLynnS's Avatar
TracyLynnS TracyLynnS is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 485
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bravo View Post
I hope nobody minds but i usually shorten board names when responding.
OT

I don't mind at all. I've even had people call me Trace. No "Y", added an "E" to my name. lol I only have such a long username because that even way back when I started using this identity online in the 90s, plain old Tracy was already taken in all the forums and I needed to come up with an option other than "Tracy835249657".

ON TOPIC

I did find the original thread and the info I posted upthread here is Old News. Sorry about that!
The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to TracyLynnS For This Useful Post:
  #21  
Old 02-11-2012, 11:37 AM
Bravo's Avatar
Bravo Bravo is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,633
Quote:
Originally Posted by TracyLynnS View Post
OT

I don't mind at all. I've even had people call me Trace. No "Y", added an "E" to my name. lol I only have such a long username because that even way back when I started using this identity online in the 90s, plain old Tracy was already taken in all the forums and I needed to come up with an option other than "Tracy835249657".

ON TOPIC

I did find the original thread and the info I posted upthread here is Old News. Sorry about that!
No problem. LOL on the name.
__________________
All posts are my opinion only unless supported by a link
Keep calm and carry on
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Bravo For This Useful Post:
  #22  
Old 02-11-2012, 11:10 AM
angelindisguyz's Avatar
angelindisguyz angelindisguyz is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 177
Grime errrr Griem just can't keep his pie hole shut! Why does he feel the need to state her income? I don't think I've ever seen any attorney shoot his mouth off like he has.
Motive enough was that he wanted to buy another house and shack up with two other women to play his fantasy out. It was clear that he wanted someone to golf, play Euchre, etc with him from the ad she posted. I don't think he wanted Jane to have that role in his life anymore.
On another note, the family of Jane made a very classy statement about her and her children, IMO. I hope the nightmare they are living ends soon for them.
The Following 11 Users Say Thank You to angelindisguyz For This Useful Post:
  #23  
Old 02-11-2012, 11:36 AM
Bravo's Avatar
Bravo Bravo is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,633
Griem's public comments are astounding at times. Never heard a Defense Atty. speak as he does. That first presser was unbelievable
__________________
All posts are my opinion only unless supported by a link
Keep calm and carry on
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to Bravo For This Useful Post:
  #24  
Old 02-11-2012, 06:55 PM
TexasCharm's Avatar
TexasCharm TexasCharm is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,208
Thanks for the new thread .....

I hope it's true that RG is talking to LE ... I'll soften where she is concerned if she's doing the right thing.....
The Following 12 Users Say Thank You to TexasCharm For This Useful Post:
  #25  
Old 02-12-2012, 10:48 PM
angelindisguyz's Avatar
angelindisguyz angelindisguyz is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 177
I still am waiting to see how JG got to the house that day. Has that ever been said?
I hope RG did not know BB's intentions with Jane. If she didn't, I hope that she stopped all communication with him and ended the affair. BB being watched now has to put a real damper on his double life. Hah! If he gets put away who would take care of all the crap he left behind? I don't think his kids?
I did read that he called his momma right away to come over the night he reported Jane missing. I find that VERY WEIRD!!!
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to angelindisguyz For This Useful Post:
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Tags
jane bashara, jane's clothing lost, joe arrested, murder gross pointe, rachel's house searched

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Oregon Public Defender found strangled Missizzy Crimes in the News 39 11-28-2013 03:33 PM
Young Woman Jane Doe- found two weeks ago closeobserver Stacy Peterson 6 09-10-2013 07:23 PM
PA Woman Beat Unmercifully And Strangled Outside Her home Filly Crimes in the News 41 05-12-2012 12:28 AM
MI - Woman, Jane Bashara, Found Strangled - #1 amandab Crimes in the News 1006 02-10-2012 11:51 PM
90-year-old woman raped, strangled Casshew Crimes in the News 14 03-10-2006 09:58 AM


© Copyright Websleuths 1999-2012 New To Site? Need Help?
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:47 AM.

Advertisements

Pre-Order Imperfect Justice: Prosecuting Casey Anthony today!