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Old 04-07-2012, 03:36 PM
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4-Year-Old Sapulpa OK- Girl In Hospital After Being Attacked By Intruder

4-Year-Old Sapulpa Girl In Hospital After Being Attacked By Intruder

TULSA, Oklahoma - The Creek County Sheriff's Department has confirmed a 4-year-old Sapulpa girl was assaulted by an intruder to her home overnight.
The girl was discovered in her bedroom by her mother's boyfriend early Friday morning. Investigators were dispatched to the scene at 7 a.m.
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Old 04-07-2012, 03:59 PM
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This seems odd. Someone broke in, stabbed the dog to death, disposed of the dog's remains, and assaulted the child all while the boyfriend was there?

http://www.newson6.com/story/1735324...ar-old-sapulpa
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Yes, supposedly. I wonder what kind of a dog it was. I know that my German Shepherd would NEVER let anyone attack one of my kids in their beds. Someone would have to stab her and dump her if they wanted to do so. So it seems like it would be a noisy process, imo. Seems like something the stepdad would have heard.
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And she was sexually assaulted. This was a trailer. How could the stepdad not hear that?


"And the sexual assault is not the only crime that happened here."

"Somebody had stabbed the dog and then took the dog and threw it behind another trailor over there, so we're thinking that's where the blood comes from the front porch," Redfern said.
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And she was sexually assaulted. This was a trailer. How could the stepdad not hear that?


"And the sexual assault is not the only crime that happened here."

"Somebody had stabbed the dog and then took the dog and threw it behind another trailor over there, so we're thinking that's where the blood comes from the front porch," Redfern said.
If he wasn't home?
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If he wasn't home?
Well, he was SUPPOSED to be home. There is a baby at home with the 4 yr old. And mom was at work. So if he wasn't home, then that is a crime as well.
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"...front porch" does not sound like an intruder to me. Intruders don't use the front door. ???? moo

Nor would an intruder be concerned enough to carry a deceased animal outside the trailer and throw it behind another. Seems only someone with great familiarity and connection to the home would bother to move anything "out." An intruder doesn't distinguish boundaries like that. moo
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How far is this from the shootings?
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How far is this from the shootings?
Does this stepdad have an old white truck?
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How far is this from the shootings?
About a 10 minute drive.

I'm just gonna go out on a limb and bet the boyfriend did it. Ugh. JMO
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"...front porch" does not sound like an intruder to me. Intruders don't use the front door. ???? moo

Nor would an intruder be concerned enough to carry a deceased animal outside the trailer and throw it behind another. Seems only someone with great familiarity and connection to the home would bother to move anything "out." An intruder doesn't distinguish boundaries like that. moo
On the news they keep showing a big piece of plywood covering something on the trailer. Maybe a broken window?
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On the news they keep showing a big piece of plywood covering something on the trailer. Maybe a broken window?
Yes, they say in the article there is a broken window. Again, wouldn't he hear a window breaking in a trailer? Who breaks into a trailer to assault a little girl while her father is a few feet away in the next room?

And you shatter a window, stab a guard dog and assault a little girl, and dad sleeps through it all?
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Yes, they say in the article there is a broken window. Again, wouldn't he hear a window breaking in a trailer? Who breaks into a trailer to assault a little girl while her father is a few feet away in the next room?

And you shatter a window, stab a guard dog and assault a little girl, and dad sleeps through it all?
I agree. The window seems staged to me. An intruder enters via break-in and exits through front door? With another adult male present, sleeping?

Further, I don't think the perp entered once, did his business, and left once. I think there were probably a couple trips in and out. Hence, front door...which also points to a perp comfortable enough to use the front door. moo
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Yes, they say in the article there is a broken window. Again, wouldn't he hear a window breaking in a trailer? Who breaks into a trailer to assault a little girl while her father is a few feet away in the next room?

And you shatter a window, stab a guard dog and assault a little girl, and dad sleeps through it all?
You wouldn't think so, huh? Unless he's got one of those sleep apnea machines, you'd hear all that in a trailer!
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An early article with some details on the scene and the report
http://www.fox23.com/news/local/stor...Fcs6fjrQA.cspx

This happened on Fri AM.
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Investigators are still piecing together this case. But right now they think the crime happened between 2 and 5 in the morning.

Investigators say they found blood numerous places inside and outside the girl's bedroom. At the time they were trying to learn if was the child's or the suspect's.
http://www.ktul.com/story/17354383/4...vered-in-blood

This one says Mom left for work first. So she may have been home too?
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They left their DNA behind so if it was the boyfriend we will know soon enough. If not, it sure was a determined and bold intruder.
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They left their DNA behind so if it was the boyfriend we will know soon enough. If not, it sure was a determined and bold intruder.
What would you call David Westerfield? How many adults were not only home but awake when he went in the Van Dam's house? Or Richard Speck? Or Ted Bundy? He dragged a 12 year old girl out of a school in front of a security guard. I'm only illustrating the fact that there's no shortage of audacity.
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Girl is having surgery
http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_n...r-old-at-scene

http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/...me-inva/nMLXk/

http://www.ktul.com/story/17351047/f...ed-by-intruder
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If mom left for work after it happened I think it is odd. Where did she think the dog went? What about all of the blood in the trailer and on the porch? And she never looked in on the kids before she left?

I think it is more likely it happened after she left. But maybe I am jaded.
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If mom left for work after it happened I think it is odd. Where did she think the dog went? What about all of the blood in the trailer and on the porch? And she never looked in on the kids before she left?

I think it is more likely it happened after she left. But maybe I am jaded.
That could be how LE came up with their timeline. Mom left for work and no blood, Dad got up and there was blood.

If it wasn't Dad I would guess that it was someone who knew the family well. Someone who knew when Mom went to work and who knew Dad slept heavily.
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That could be how LE came up with their timeline. Mom left for work and no blood, Dad got up and there was blood.

If it wasn't Dad I would guess that it was someone who knew the family well. Someone who knew when Mom went to work and who knew Dad slept heavily.
If they are saying it happened between 2 and 5 then mom must have LEFT for work at 2 am. ?? What job would she have that begins at 2 am? I guess maybe a cleaning service or an all night diner?

But Dad would have to be a very very heavy sleeper not to hear the dog being stabbed, the window breaking and the child being assaulted, just feet away. That does not look like a very big trailer. I have stayed in trailers like that. You can hear the dog snoring at the other end of the trailer behind a closed door.

ETA: I wonder if dad drank with someone late that night who made sure dad got really drunk before bedtime?
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If they are saying it happened between 2 and 5 then mom must have LEFT for work at 2 am. ?? What job would she have that begins at 2 am? I guess maybe a cleaning service or an all night diner?

But Dad would have to be a very very heavy sleeper not to hear the dog being stabbed, the window breaking and the child being assaulted, just feet away. That does not look like a very big trailer. I have stayed in trailers like that. You can hear the dog snoring at the other end of the trailer behind a closed door.

ETA: I wonder if dad drank with someone late that night who made sure dad got really drunk before bedtime?
My DD works at McD's. Somestimes she gets up at 3 in order to be at work at 4 when she opens.

A bakery worker would also be up early.
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The dog was killed then it's body was thrown behind another trailer. Makes me think the dog was putting up a fuss and the boyfriend got rid of the body so mom would not see it when she came home. He could claim it was just missing. The dog probably put up a fuss when the little girl was being hurt. The window that is broken has glass outside and a table blocking the entrance/exit. It is all pointing to the boyfriend to me.
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If mom left for work after it happened I think it is odd. Where did she think the dog went? What about all of the blood in the trailer and on the porch? And she never looked in on the kids before she left?

I think it is more likely it happened after she left. But maybe I am jaded.
That's not jaded, that's logical.
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