CA CA - Keddie Cabin Murders, 1981

[MeoW333]

http://www.socyberty.com/Paranormal/...abin-28.124492

"Very few people know or have ever been in Keddie in Northern California. It has always been a very small and quiet place. This is even truer since in a census taken in 2000, only 96 people lived in Keddie. There used to be much more, but since 1981, it has become a ghost town. A terrible event happened in April of that year that has changed the little town forever and has left many questions unanswered. It has even given this town some unwanted and morbid tourists."

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/...ckval=GooglePM

** KEDDIE - Cabin 28 on Keddie Resort Road stands empty. The tenants moved out Wednesday. By coincidence, it was the day Plumas County sheriff's deputies announced human remains discovered near Feather Falls in Butte County were those of a 12-year-old girl who disappeared from Cabin 28 more than three years ago.
When new tenants move in, the story again will be told of three violent deaths at the cabin. A mother, son and neighborhood boy were beaten and stabbed to death in the"

Many articles in the NEWS archives of google are available; many want you to pay for the full article; there is a lot on the net regarding the murders. The new film "The Strangers" is loosely based on the Keddie cabin murders which remain unsolved.

Triple murder unsolved..

[Floh]

Awful story, MeoW.

a paranormal event is seriously considered, apparently.

i will be thinking on . . .

[Talisman]

Meow,

This was one of the cases that I used to check on to see if it ever got solved.

I used to go to this site http://www.cabin28.com/ . Awhile ago a poster stated making some comments in the message board like he almost 'knew' things about the killers.

Thank you for bringing this here. Hven't checked on this case for a loooong time. Had no idea they were making a movie based on it.

[Floh]

The photographs of the scene and resort are interesting.

http://cabin28.com/Photos.htm

[pixies]

Originally Posted by Floh

The photographs of the scene and resort are interesting.

http://cabin28.com/Photos.htm

Some people on that site are claiming this is totally made up for the movie. That this crime never happened. Hmmm, what proof do we have that this is true and not some crazy stunt (ie:Blair Witch Project) by film makers to get people into their movie? Sick, but Hollywood kinda swings that way.

[loganone]

Originally Posted by pixies

Some people on that site are claiming this is totally made up for the movie. That this crime never happened. Hmmm, what proof do we have that this is true and not some crazy stunt (ie:Blair Witch Project) by film makers to get people into their movie? Sick, but Hollywood kinda swings that way.

If you google "keddie murders" you'll find alot about the actual murders.

[Floh]

Originally Posted by pixies

Some people on that site are claiming this is totally made up for the movie. That this crime never happened. Hmmm, what proof do we have that this is true and not some crazy stunt (ie:Blair Witch Project) by film makers to get people into their movie? Sick, but Hollywood kinda swings that way.

What loganon said — i googled this and found quite a bit.

however, i may be wrong and everything on the web regarding this case is made up.

[kline]

Originally Posted by pixies

Some people on that site are claiming this is totally made up for the movie. That this crime never happened. Hmmm, what proof do we have that this is true and not some crazy stunt (ie:Blair Witch Project) by film makers to get people into their movie? Sick, but Hollywood kinda swings that way.

Yeah Ive been aware of this crime since the 80's it predates the movie.
I think the connection between the crime and the script are pretty flimsy
Im sure the 'Inspired By True Events ' business is a marketing ploy to give the movie some 'mojo'.
As far a Keddie goes (and my impatience with 'Craig') im fairly convinced that the investigation being so dialed in to a 'drug involvement' angle is exactly why its remained unsolved since 1981.
Its the same mindset that kept the Groene investigation here in Idaho revving the engine in neutral for months while LE leaned on every tweaker and burn out case in the county leaving Joeseph Duncan free to torture Dylan and Shasta Groene at his leisure.

[kline]

Originally Posted by Talisman

Meow,

This was one of the cases that I used to check on to see if it ever got solved.

I used to go to this site http://www.cabin28.com/ . Awhile ago a poster stated making some comments in the message board like he almost 'knew' things about the killers.

Thank you for bringing this here. Hven't checked on this case for a loooong time. Had no idea they were making a movie based on it.

Craig.I dont beleive he knows anything but he certainly is desperate to insert himself into the story.
Unfortunately when you try to read the message board over there to attempt to learn anything about the case youll find every thread hijacked by him and his drug intrigue on the mean streets of Keddie circa 1981 fantasies its useless.
Too bad because its a facinating case.

[Floh]

And Talisman appears to have a history of checking out this case.

[Talisman]

Originally Posted by Floh

And Talisman appears to have a history of checking out this case.

Hi, Floh

Yeah I used to go to that site quite often. That murder was just so chilling it really upset me. But then visits to their message board seemed just as disturbing sometimes. Just sort of quit going to the site.

Pretty sure it's not a hoax, Pixie. If so then they've had me duped for years

[Julessleuther]

I remember reading about this story 5 + yrs ago....

[SoccerMom]

I just read the front page of the www.cabin28.com website, and the line about people being brutally killed but no one hearing anything reminds me of Joseph Duncan and what he did to the Groene Family. I'm not saying that he was involved, but after reading what he did to those poor people, I'm not at all shocked that no one heard anything.

[gaia227]

I find a lot of the people who post on the messageboard at Cabin28.com kinda ......scary. A lot of them obviously know eachother and they were all involved indirectly or perhaps directly with what happened that night and the environment is very hostile. It made me feel grateful for how respectful the posters at WS are.

[kristiec]

My very first post...

This case is actually what prompted me to join. I was hoping to find more info about the case here than on the cabin 28 website. I just heard about this crime in conjunction the movie Strangers and have been trying to find info about it since then. The other site seems to have a lot of people not answering questions and just making things more confusing. I am looking for any info on this. I am a true crime buff. And I have picked this as my next case to really sink into...but there just does not seem to be a wealth of good information out there. Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks!

[thefragile7393]

It seems to me that there's little real info out there, just the newspaper articles. Bit of a hard place to start it seems like.

[flyboy]

Originally Posted by thefragile7393

It seems to me that there's little real info out there, just the newspaper articles. Bit of a hard place to start it seems like.

It's really a shame - that Cabin 28 site used to have a lot of good information about the case, but then it just seemed to get kind of.... scary on the message boards. I was instantly drawn into the story the first time I read about it. Can't remember exactly where I ran across it the first time, come to think of it. The message board there doesn't even seem to have a moderator anymore. There was a second site online for a while, but that one has disappeared.

Apparently, there's an independent documentary about the case floating around out there somewhere, as well.

There really is precious little info. about the case out there - I guess because it's older and a bit remote - but, ever since I started really becoming interested in both missing persons and unresolved cases, I was pretty instantly stunned by the number of fascinating, yet little-known cases that really exist out there.

[rccook555]

You can watch installments and deleted scenes from this documentary at this site. Also more pictures and related documents.
http://www.keddiemurdersmovie.com/

ETA:
There seems to be some difficulty with the movies playing directly from that sight today. (They have worked all week)
So here is the direct link to the youtube site where you can find all the video clips and deleted scenes from the documentary.
http://www.youtube.com/user/keddiemurdersmovie

[becklynn]

I always thought it was strange that Glenna was found with a towel on her someone had used to seemingly try to stop the blood. Did the murderer help her then kill her?

[rccook555]

Its been said that Justin tried to help her. But Justin also said he seen the killer come back in and cover her with a blanket.

[Jen_in_Indy]

Originally Posted by rccook555

You can watch installments and deleted scenes from this documentary at this site. Also more pictures and related documents.
http://www.keddiemurdersmovie.com/

ETA:
There seems to be some difficulty with the movies playing directly from that sight today. (They have worked all week)
So here is the direct link to the youtube site where you can find all the video clips and deleted scenes from the documentary.
http://www.youtube.com/user/keddiemurdersmovie

Thanks for those links. Those videos are amazing and seem to have the most information out there on the net. I'll be interested in seeing the rest of the installments when they are posted.

[:+:MrTT:+:]

Originally Posted by Jen_in_Indy

Thanks for those links. Those videos are amazing and seem to have the most information out there on the net. I'll be interested in seeing the rest of the installments when they are posted.

quick question, for im having a problem finding on thread, so yes or no would be great thank you.......don't search for it, if anyone just knows, just post yes or no...
just in, the hypnoses, descriptions, is that descriptions of the person/persons whom gave the ride to the cabin?.......and if LE was here, i would ask if written on those boards removed in blood..............were messages, or symbols of a member connection?

add on...
.........................Ill delete this message when i receive a answer, so not to make this thread any longer then necessary.

[athy]

i went to that site yesterday and was reading there, looked at the documentary..not bad (the docu i mean). what i got from it though is that Justin knows more than he's saying...definitely more. perhaps he doesn't really remember much but it seems because at the time someone scared him so much that its like his mind has blocked the info. and apparently they're not doing much to unblock it...yeah they did hypnotise him but well that only works if the person is willing enough. i think its possible others know more than they're telling too, not talking about that craig guy necessarily. but you know with as small as that town was it seems some talk was done thru the years.

[KarlK]

What the documentary conveys, in essence, is that LE likes Marty and Bo for the murders but can't prove anything because they lack physical evidence and the only witness (Justin) is blocking something. It's obvious that the sheriff was in over his head with this crime, he sort of alluded that he had never had to investigate a homicide before this event, seeing as this happened in one of the smallest counties in California, population-wise. But the FBI and the DoJ couldn't come up with anything either.

There is surprisingly little forensic evidence mentioned about these murders. It would be interesting to know when exactly did the FBI become involved and to what extent was the crime scene compromised once qualified investigators arrived on the scene to secure it... if that ever was done that is. I was 18 in 1981, old enough to remember that in many small towns the concept of a crime scene investigator was that of a Polaroid toting cop who liked to take pictures of birds while not on duty and was therefore considered qualified because it was all about pictures. If local cops couldn't solve a major crime they would simply hand over photos of the crime scene to whoever was taking charge, state police or the FBI. Not much to work on but then again major crimes happening in small towns are often easy to solve without resorting to sophisticated forensics. I get the impression that the sheriff initially thought it would be a piece of cake, and may have been negligent as a result.

The theory of the culprits being whoever picked up Johnny and Dana hitchhiking doesn't seem to be popular. It's difficult to study the crime without knowing much about Marty Smartt and his buddy Bo, all we have is what his ex-wife tells about him which isn't that much, and that the night after the murders he was acting weird and appeared to be "high on something" according to a friend. But what was the community's opinion of him before the murders? Was this guy considered deranged? Odd? Violent? Did he have a criminal record? That remains vague.

[becklynn]

The murders are not drug related. They are so similar to Joseph Duncans murdering the Groene family it is eerie. The little girl was taken just like Shasta and Dylan and the family killed. The kids that lived probably lived because of their young age.
The people that say they have info should go to LE if they really know anything. Otherwise I'd say they just want attention.