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Darlie Routier Darlie Routier is on death row, convicted of murdering her two sons. Darlie claims that an intruder attacked her and the boys and is responsible. Many feel Darlie deserves a new trial. Discuss it here.


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Old 05-07-2008, 11:07 AM
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Darlie's 16 versions...a question?

I read all the 16 versions posted in the sticky. But none of them have verifiable proof. They are hearsay. Are they not? Where is the documentation of each of the 16 versions other than what was heard or said for family/friends?
Is there any at all?
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:53 PM
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the stories were derived from statements she made to other people or to the police. If anything is/was incorrect, you may be able to verify what you're looking for by reading the transcripts to see if it was discussed in open court and what each side had to say about it at that time. Aside from that, yes, statements given in any instance can be considered "hearsay," but you're reading the exact transcript of the statement of the person telling the story. Its not like you're reading a paperback that just purports to tell what was said. Sorry I can't be more help on this topic.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:23 PM
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There is direct evidence and hearsay.

Direct evidence - what I told you personally. You can relate this event to the court through testimony and give direct evidence. You have first hand knowledge. These people are called witnesses.

For example: I told you story A, that I felt pressure on my legs that caused me to wake up. You testify directly to this story as told to you by me.

I tell story B to another person. That I woke up when I heard one of the boys calling "mommy". This is in my Police statement

Then I tell story C to yet another person, that I woke up when I felt pressure on my neck. I told this to a co-worker.

So none of these stories that I told you is correct because there was no intruder. I am fabricating a story that best suits me and is self serving. It is very telling that I am lying about the different versions of the stories.

Hearsay - what another person told you. You have no direct knowledge, you do not know if the information relayed to you is correct. Now there are exceptions to hearsay, but a Judge rules on the evidence.

One exception is a dying declaration: As person is stabbed, he thinks he will die. He will die. While the police are there he tells them: John Smith stabbed me, he took a knife and stabbed me over money that I owed him because of a debt.

Then the officer can testify what the dead victim told him at the trial of John Smith. The reason, people have no motive to lie when they are dying to whom caused their death. It is the last uttered statement.

A person has the right to "confront" the person giving testimony. That is why exceptions must be allowed by a Judge.

So the people in court are not saying: Well this person told me this. They are saying: Darlie directly told me this, she spoke to me and told me what happened.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:20 PM
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No, Jeana that was helpful. I am re-reading the transcripts now. I was just wondering if these different stories were more of "she said this to my friend and I heard this from another friend" or if it was Darlie herself speaking. Thanks!
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Thanks Cyberlaw. That was very clear and easy to understand.
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