50/60 year old Amnesia Victim Savannah, GA Thread #4

[christine2448]

Please continue discussions here.


For all the newbies:

[believe09]

I received a reply that they would request Executive Director approval for placing a flyer or banner on their website and on their sister websites both in the USA and OVERSEAS!!!!!!!

GREAT suggestion and we will see where this leads...

[Boyz_Mum]

Originally Posted by believe09

I received a reply that they would request Executive Director approval for placing a flyer or banner on their website and on their sister websites both in the USA and OVERSEAS!!!!!!!

GREAT suggestion and we will see where this leads...

Thanks believe09, for all the work you're doing. This is great news and I pray it leads to Mr. Kyle's identity!

[Cubby]

Excellent beleive!

With SieSie's permission can we link that flyer here, for those of us wishing to use it as well? I would like to send a copy to the various Denver Police Stations if that has not already been done. I would also like to request a flyer be added to this site: http://www.colfaxavenue.com/
Their forum is not activated, otherwise I would have posted there.

thanks!

[believe09]

Originally Posted by Cubby

Excellent beleive!

With SieSie's permission can we link that flyer here, for those of us wishing to use it as well? I would like to send a copy to the various Denver Police Stations if that has not already been done. I would also like to request a flyer be added to this site: http://www.colfaxavenue.com/
Their forum is not activated, otherwise I would have posted there.

thanks!

You rock Cubby-I sent the following to the Colfax site...I used the address that they listed soliciting for advertisers

To Whom It May Concern;

I am a case manager for an organization that works with families of the missing as well as unidentified remains throughout the US. I have been advocating on behalf of an amnesia victim who believes he has close ties to the Denver area and has specific memories of Colfax Ave and the restaurants there.

In August of 2004, a man was discovered beaten and unconscious behind a Burger King in Richmond Hill, GA. He was characterized as indigent by the first responders to the scene and no investigation was done as to why he lay naked behind the eatery. Once he recovered and began speaking, it became clear that he was not homeless, but that the beating had left him with amnesia...he was unable to recall his name or where he was from. He has specific memories of Denver and the surrounding area from the 80's and at least the 90's-he may have had ties to the restaurant industry.

Mr. Kyle, as he has chosen to call himself, was recently featured on the Dr. Phil Show-the air date was October 16th of this year and you can see the show itself at www.drphil.com. The show title is "Who Am I?" In spite of national publicity, there have been no credible tips as to Mr. Kyle's ID. His case is being handled by the FBI in Savannah, GA where he currently lives with former caregivers.

Please consider adding a banner or flyer to your website-his best chance at identification, we believe, is through increased awareness in the Denver area.

I appreciate your time and attention!!!!

Sincerely,

[Cubby]

Thanks Believe. That colfax site seems to appeal to a younger crowd, but some of the historical info may draw viewers from Mr. Kyles age. I sure hope they ad a banner or flyer.

Has Mr. Kyles info been sent to ALL of the police stations in Denver? Particularly whichever station(s) are closest to Colfax and the specific area's Mr. Kyle remembers? We know he does not have a record which would match prints, but perhaps someone with 20+ years on the force might recognize him from passing. Many people officers know long time locals... by name and not necessarily because they have been in trouble, say iff Mr. Kyle regularly participated in assisting with say a local softball team...or had a food booth at a local festival as examples. Maybe one of the restaurants he worked for sponsered a kids team or athletic association of some kind. Just tossing out idea's.

[SieSie]

Originally Posted by Cubby

Excellent beleive!

With SieSie's permission can we link that flyer here, for those of us wishing to use it as well? I would like to send a copy to the various Denver Police Stations if that has not already been done. I would also like to request a flyer be added to this site: http://www.colfaxavenue.com/
Their forum is not activated, otherwise I would have posted there.

thanks!

Hi Cubby! You (and everyone else) are more than welcome to use my flyers to spread around the web or to print up and distribute. The more exposure, the better.

[Cubby]

Originally Posted by SieSie

Hi Cubby! You (and everyone else) are more than welcome to use my flyers to spread around the web or to print up and distribute. The more exposure, the better.

TY! SieSie and thanks for posting a thread with the links. I would like to see that thread become a sticky.

[Cubby]

believe, did you ever hear back from the site owner for colfaxavenue?

[believe09]

Originally Posted by Cubby

believe, did you ever hear back from the site owner for colfaxavenue?

Nothing yet...

[believe09]

OK lovely people-I do receive updates periodically from Benjaman and Nurse Betty.

For the Newbies:
Nurse Betty is the name we picked for the person who has spearheaded the campaign to find out his ID. She does not want her name appearing on the threads if possible since the circumstances behind BK's attack are still unclear-YES, the TOS says that once the information appears in Mainstream media, it can be posted. All I can do is ask that you respect this wish with me because it is easy to do and it will not cause her undue stress because of WS.

The show has provided a private detective to help vet the leads and I have been told that the leads are forwarded to Benjaman regularly. Keep in mind the sheer quantity of silly stuff that must be there-when BK was in the National Enquirer he had a number of elderly ladies claiming to know him but wanting him to correspond with them personally first...you get the idea.

To date I have been posting updates on the seemingly relevant thread-tell me how you want to see them and I will give it my best shot.

[believe09]

I took a look on the net and found several who have been around for a while, but it is hard to say whether some of them had been operating in the 70's.

Any medical folks out there? How complicated is a rebuild of an elbow that involves skin grafts? 1 in a 100 patients? 1 in a thousand? Would you remember the guy you did it on?

What kind of fracture was it then; must have been exposed if it needed skin grafts to close? Did he get his arm caught? I bring this up because perhaps this was very complicated in the 70's and a patient like this would automatically go to Mercy Hospital (been around for 100 years) vs another hospital...am I making sense?

[dreamweaver]

link to kinship dna site;

http://www.healthanddna.com/paternit...t-kinship.html

http://dna-trace-analysis.suite101.c...a_of_criminals

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/12/science/12dna.html

Interesting stuff. I don't know if they actually do this yet or not.
I guess since his dna is in the system.
Then, if this is possible, they could run for a match with all the dna databases.

[dreamweaver]

Is Y-DNA testing the same as kinship testing?

[believe09]

Originally Posted by dreamweaver

Is Y-DNA testing the same as kinship testing?

Yuppers...

[dreamweaver]

Originally Posted by believe09

Yuppers...

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[i]great minds thinking alike... lol.

[carolwood]

Newbie here, I have been very interested in Benjaman since I saw the Dr. Phil show. I have been searching since, and I have come up with a person of interest. William Dean Ponder, missing since 8-28-1993

http://www.crimeandjustice.us/forums...showtopic=9801

and

http://www.411gina.org/pdf/missingponder.pdf

After looking at the photo of Ponder, the left side of face has a indent, almost the same place as Benjaman.
Now add 15 years or more to the photo of Ponder

[Cubby]

Hi carolwood and welcome to WS! Nice to have someone here who gained interest from the show.

Wow! I do see a very strong resemblence and notice the dimple as well. I found William Dean Ponder listed at Charley project too. There are two photos of him, both with good shots of his right ear. If you notice BK's right ear shape is quite a bit different. A little more square and the pic of his right ear show two distinct parallel lines. They look different than William.

Charley project for William Dean Ponder
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...r_william.html


Photo comparison thread has a good pic of the ear.
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55629

Great sleuthing! and glad to have new eyes on the case.

Cubby

[SieSie]

Originally Posted by carolwood

Newbie here, I have been very interested in Benjaman since I saw the Dr. Phil show. I have been searching since, and I have come up with a person of interest. William Dean Ponder, missing since 8-28-1993

http://www.crimeandjustice.us/forums...showtopic=9801

and

http://www.411gina.org/pdf/missingponder.pdf

After looking at the photo of Ponder, the left side of face has a indent, almost the same place as Benjaman.
Now add 15 years or more to the photo of Ponder

Welcome to WS, carolwood!! Always great to have more interest and input in this case!! I did a side-by-side comparison for William Dean Ponder for you, I'm going to go put it on the Photo Comparison thread that Cubby linked for you in the above post.

[christine2448]

Originally Posted by carolwood

Newbie here, I have been very interested in Benjaman since I saw the Dr. Phil show. I have been searching since, and I have come up with a person of interest. William Dean Ponder, missing since 8-28-1993

http://www.crimeandjustice.us/forums...showtopic=9801

and

http://www.411gina.org/pdf/missingponder.pdf

After looking at the photo of Ponder, the left side of face has a indent, almost the same place as Benjaman.
Now add 15 years or more to the photo of Ponder

SieSie posted in the comparison thread (siesie, is that Ponder 2nd to last pic?)



eta..carolwood

[mugzy1969]

Hello all, I was so happy to find this forum, I've thought about Benjamin constantly for the last few days & I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one concerned about his situation.

Anyway, I know I'm a newbie, but here's my 2 cents, for what it's worth. I'm sure I haven't read every single post here, but I did see one questioning a possible database for abandoned property left at apartments, etc.... I was wondering if anyone has thought of the idea of checking with the state treasury departments & cross referencing unclaimed property that is turned into the state (for utitlity deposits, old bank accounts, tax refunds, etc....) with missing persons in the state?? not sure if I'm even making myself clear here as it is 12:30 am & I finally got the email approving me for the forum, and I'm too excited to wait until tomorrow - haha!!! Anyway, please let me know your thoughts.

[Cubby]

Originally Posted by mugzy1969

Hello all, I was so happy to find this forum, I've thought about Benjamin constantly for the last few days & I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one concerned about his situation.

Anyway, I know I'm a newbie, but here's my 2 cents, for what it's worth. I'm sure I haven't read every single post here, but I did see one questioning a possible database for abandoned property left at apartments, etc.... I was wondering if anyone has thought of the idea of checking with the state treasury departments & cross referencing unclaimed property that is turned into the state (for utitlity deposits, old bank accounts, tax refunds, etc....) with missing persons in the state?? not sure if I'm even making myself clear here as it is 12:30 am & I finally got the email approving me for the forum, and I'm too excited to wait until tomorrow - haha!!! Anyway, please let me know your thoughts.

Welcome to WS Mugzy1969!

I think that route has been considered and maybe looked into.. though in GA the search is only via name..... there are 4 Benjamans listed but not sure how far they have been researched, if at all..... and only the names appear. No dates or other info is publically available on unclaimed property, at least for GA. Not sure if anyone has searched the same for CO.

thanks!

[carolwood]

Originally Posted by Cubby

Welcome to WS Mugzy1969!

I think that route has been considered and maybe looked into.. though in GA the search is only via name..... there are 4 Benjamans listed but not sure how far they have been researched, if at all..... and only the names appear. No dates or other info is publically available on unclaimed property, at least for GA. Not sure if anyone has searched the same for CO.

thanks!

Cubby, I did Indiana, but it is a very long list. I didn't want to post the names since some of these could still be living. Dream, I think maybe doing Co. If someone wanted to take on the other states, OK, KS, MI, IL then maybe we could send each other the files via email to see if maybe we could get some name matches. If someone wants to help, I will be glad to go thru the lists that are sent.

[dreamweaver]

Did anyone post on Dr Phil about the Y-DNA and the cost?
I have not been on that board for awhile.

[believe09]

Originally Posted by dreamweaver

Did anyone post on Dr Phil about the Y-DNA and the cost?
I have not been on that board for awhile.

I sent an email to the show requesting sponsorship for the YDNA testing and that they help advocate to get him a Temp SSN.

I received an email from an intern requesting a signed release form so that they could turn over my name and particulars to Nurse Betty and BK who were vetting their own leads.

I sent the show an email back indicating that it was unnecissary because I have regular contact with them, but considering the fact that I wrote a case history for the show as well as letter of appeal before Benjaman appeared, you would think they would have matched some of the stuff up...too funny.

I guess the bottom line is that Dr. Phil contributed air time only...and I suspect that unless Mr. Kyle affects his show via ratings or interest etc, Mr. Kyle has received as much help as he is going to get. JMO.