WA WA - Seattle, WhtFem 159UFWA, 33-45, Suicide in Hotel -Alias: "Mary Anderson", Oct'96

[outofthedark]

Unidentified White Female

Located in Seattle, King County, Washington on October 11, 1996

Cause of death was suicide.


Vital Statistics
Estimated Age: 33 - 45 years old
Approximate Height and Weight: 5'8"; 240 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: Reddish-brown hair and brown eyes. She used a copper intrauterine device. She had some sort of breast surgery at some point. It had produced scars beneath both breast and around the nipple area. Her hair was combed, her nails were painted cream white and she wore make-up.
Dentals: Dental plate
Clothing: She wore black leggings and a black top.


Case History
This woman committed suicide in Seattle, WA. She checked in to a room at Seattle's Hotel Vintage Park on October 9, 1996 under the name Mary Anderson. She paid cash for her room. She left an non-existent address of 132 East Third Street, New York, NY 11103; and a phone number of 212-569-5549; the phone number does not exist either. When she failed to check out of her room two days later as expected, hotel staff entered the room and found her deceased. She had taken cyanide.
Investigators found a note scribbled upon hotel stationery:

To Whom It May Concern.
I have decided to end my life and no one is responsible for my death.
Mary Anderson.
P. S. I have no relatives. You can use my body as you choose.

A large black Bible lay open across her chest. It was opened to the Twenty-Third Psalm.

The woman's miscellaneous belongings -- velour outfits, shoes, slippers, black leather gloves, leather purse, Estée Lauder cosmetics, toothpaste, perfume, Metamucil, Crystal Light, panty hose, a kitchen bowl, and an iron -- were packed in several luggage bags.


Investigators
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
King County Medical Examiner's Office
206-731-3232


Agency Case Number:
96-1207 Source Information:
Seatle PI
Whamee.com

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/159ufwa.html

[EdinburghLass]

I am glad someone posted this case. It has always intrigued me.

Here is another link for poor Mary

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/specials/mary/ - Who was Mary Anderson and how did she die?

If she said that she has no family, it would be so hard to identify her as it is unlikely she was reported missing.

So sad....

[EdinburghLass]

And one more link - quite comprehensive

http://www.wahmee.com/kcmeo.html - Something about Mary

[outofthedark]

When I reviewed this case, I thought it was strangely similar to the "Lyle Stevik" one

Similarities

- both checked into Washington hotels
- both committed suicide 2 days after they checked into the hotels
- both had surgeries at one time in their lives
- both gave adresses that were not their own (hers was non-exsistent, his was for a motel in Idaho)
- both paid for hotel rooms in cash
- both left notes

[EdinburghLass]

Strange coincidences. The surgery one is probably just a fluke because most people have had some form of surgery in their lives. But the rest is quite strange.

[outofthedark]

Originally Posted by EdinburghLass

Strange coincidences. The surgery one is probably just a fluke because most people have had some form of surgery in their lives. But the rest is quite strange.

Very strange coincidences, wonder if LE ever knew about the coincidences between both cases??

Hopefully someone knows who Mary is...

[Angels_Not_Forgotten]

unfortunatley, IMO none of the things add up to a "pact" or even connect. a lot of people commit suicide outside of homes or places where they are comfortable.

[outofthedark]

Originally Posted by Angels_Not_Forgotten

unfortunatley, IMO none of the things add up to a "pact" or even connect. a lot of people commit suicide outside of homes or places where they are comfortable.

I didn't think so myself about the cases connecting- I thought it was kind of a small coincidence, less of a connection

[Julessleuther]

I searched and did not find any other posts for her. This one seems so solveable, there are so many details given in the description!

http://meyahna.tripod.com/pg17.html


http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/159ufwa.html

[Jaded]

I wonder if the IUD would have had a lot number to cross reference to what physician it was sold to?

[Julessleuther]

Originally Posted by Jaded

I wonder if the IUD would have had a lot number to cross reference to what physician it was sold to?

I do not think she was sold to a physician. Under the first link, near the bottom of the page is this:

Her body was embalmed and buried at King's County expense in Seattle's Crown Hill Cemetery at Grave No. 197-A.

[Jaded]

Originally Posted by Julessleuther

I do not think she was sold to a physician. Under the first link, near the bottom of the page is this:

Her body was embalmed and buried at King's County expense in Seattle's Crown Hill Cemetery at Grave No. 197-A.

IUD - the birth control device that they said she had. Generally medical devices have serial numbers or lot numbers. I wonder if they are able to ascertain if the IUD (intrauterine device) has such a number.

[Julessleuther]

Originally Posted by Jaded

IUD - the birth control device that they said she had. Generally medical devices have serial numbers or lot numbers. I wonder if they are able to ascertain if the IUD (intrauterine device) has such a number.

Ohhh! Duhhhh! Sorry about that Jaded!! I was thinking UID (Unidentified) See, I think I need to mainline Starbucks before I do anything in the morning, I just cannot function without coffee!!

[LisainWV]

The 2 reconstructs on doenetwork look like 2 entirely different people.

If i'm not mistaken, IUD's are left in for extended periods of time?

Wonder what breast surgery she would have had? Certainly not implants, ot they would have mentioned that?

[Julessleuther]

Originally Posted by LisainWV

The 2 reconstructs on doenetwork look like 2 entirely different people.

If i'm not mistaken, IUD's are left in for extended periods of time?

Wonder what breast surgery she would have had? Certainly not implants, ot they would have mentioned that?

I agree-when I read the description of her and saw the picture, I thought she was alot thinner than they described. The second picture appears to be more what her size woud have been. I was wondering about the surgery too--I wonder if she had breast cancer?

[Jaded]

Maybe she had breast reduction. If she would have had implants, again those implants would have serial numbers on them that would allow LE to narrow down who she was.

I'm not sure how long IUD's are placed.

[LisainWV]

Info on iud's....

http://www.fwhc.org/birth-control/iudinfo.htm

last 1- 10 years.
2 types - paraguard and mirena. paraguard is the type with the copper wire (this is what Jane doe had).

Read down on this site and it says the other type mirena, cannot be used in someone with a history of BREAST CANCER. Her breast surgeries may well have been to remove lumps.

[teonspaleprincess]

I thought they stopped doing the copper ones?

[Sable]

If I had to guess based on experience, I would say it sounds like the scars are from a breast reduction. I had one done a few years ago, and the description of the scars sounds a lot like my scars with only one exception. They didn't mention (which might mean there wasn't) a scar down the center from nipple to bottom. There are other ways the surgery is performed, based on the current size and what size you want them to be reduced to. The anchor (what I have) is the most common. I'd have to look it up to be sure, but it might be possible to have them reduced and end up with just the scar along the bottom and the scar around the nipple. Also, wanted to add that a lot of times the surgery is considered cosmetic, but it's possible that insurance (if she had it) could have paid for some or all of it.

It sounds to me that she had a fairly well paying job, considering the makeup found. It's the expensive stuff.... completely different price range than what we sell at Walgreens (I work the cosmetics department at a Walgreens). Also, since the IUD suggests she was sexually active, perhaps she worked as an escort? I mean no offense, but that type of job I assume would pay someone the money to be able to afford the more expensive makeup and provide a reason for needing an IUD along with the possibility of that being the reason she had no family. If she worked as an escort perhaps she was disowned because her family didn't approve. This is one of many many possibilities, and I just wanted to throw my opinon out there. Anything is possible.

Another thing about the makeup... It's most likely too late, and may not have even been the case, but back in October I went shopping with my mom and she bought me something from the Estee Lauder counter. I had one of those free makeovers and they had me fill out a card with my information and the products I liked/tried. It was a promotion they were doing and they said they would keep it on file for a year so that if I came back wanting to purchase one of the items I tried, I would have no problem finding the color or product. Maybe something similar was done when the UID purchased her makeup?

[rpipergirl]

Her psydomym was "Mary Anderson/Andrews" depending on which article you read. She killed herself in a fancy hotel called Hotel Vintage Park in Seatle,WA.
Doe network info: Estimated age: 33 - 45 years old
Approximate Height and Weight: 5'8"; 240 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: Reddish-brown hair and brown eyes. She used a copper intrauterine device. She had some sort of breast surgery at some point. It had produced scars beneath both breast and around the nipple area. Her hair was combed, her nails were painted cream white and she wore make-up.
Dentals: Dental plate
Clothing: She wore black leggings and a black top.
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/159ufwa.html

This is a case my mom Sadnews on here has been working on,so, I thought I'd add her to see what ideas we could come up with if we all put our heads together.

[Julessleuther]

There is already a thread here:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ounty+Jane+Doe

Mods, can you combine?

[Julessleuther]

Bumping so mods can combine with Mary Anderson thread.

[Julessleuther]

This woman went missing a few yrs prior, and there is not info on breast surgery, but the composite at the bottom is a dead ringer!

Elizabeth Mary Allen

http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/ga...hp?A200604918S

I do not know how to do side by sides, but the images are very close, and her middle name is Mary!

[Julessleuther]

I did a search of the address that she listed in NYC--it is a valid address, and there appears to be an apartment building across the street from the address. I wonder how LE determined that the address listed was a non-existent address? Also, I did a search for the NYC telephone number she gave, and that is a working number as of now.

The hotel in Seattle that she was found at, Hotel Vintage Park is a luxury boutique hotel, and runs approx $280-350 per night now.

On this site it stated that she had bilateral breast surgery:
http://www.seattlepi.com/dayart/pdf/...tifieddead.pdf

Bilateral breast surgery could be used for breast reduction, augmentation, and a breast lift.

[tatertot]

You have to wonder how she got the cyanide and why she chose to mix it with Metamucil? That's a fiber supplement you wouldn't expect someone in her age range to typically have around (someone correct me if I'm wrong.) Unless there's something about Metamucil that makes it especially effective to mix with cyanide, maybe she had some digestive ailment and that's why she chose it instead of something like juice or iced tea.