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One day, the lost will be found
Has anyone found any pictures (highs school, etc) of KM anywhere?
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A part of me feels like this cases resolution leaves me helpless and powerless. We've seen at least three cases in the last year that featured "runaways" - Tammy Jo Alexander (Caledonia Doe), Jason Callahan (Grateful Doe) and now Kim McLean (Lori Ruff/Becky Sue)... in each of these cases we've seen their parents helpless. "I tried to file a report but because they left on their own accord..." It makes me feel like a great number of the cases we see here, the unidentified ones, are born of kids leaving home and just never looking back. And that makes me feel helpless. If their parents can't or don't report them as missing, how would they ever know? I suppose, at the end of the day, our efforts are not in vain, as at least we're getting these cases into the public eye. And I suppose without that, they'd still be Does.
There should be a rule, whereby if a grown adult is missing for more than, say, 10 years, they should be allowed to be entered for DBA testing. Pretty sure that would clear up a few UIDs. I think in the UK if someone is missing more than 7 years they can be declared dead.
:rose: so sorry for your loss..........OMG I have been away for nearly two weeks as my mother's health failed. She passed yesterday and I have been a wreck. I thought of coming here tonight for a distraction. THANK YOU!!!! Wow.
So am I! In fact, I think it would make a great thread topic. If anyone would like to kick one off -- perhaps do a little research on the subject to share with the rest of us -- I know the effort would be appreciated.
Wonder if this ability to locate family of a DNA donor could be used to locate unidentified criminals? I guess none of us would want the call, we think one of your cousins is a serial killer..can you give us a list of their names? So signing up with one of these ancestry dna sites, might now have new privacy concerns. the crimes solving part of me says go for it. the privacy rights part of me says whoa.
I wonder how we could push for change. Maybe I'll contact my local reps about that. It would solve a lot of problems for sure.
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I'm writing to see if you would be interested in researching or putting forth a bill that allows families to file missing persons reports if the person leaves on their own accord. We've seen three cold cases solved this year alone, linked below, that involved "runaways."
1.) Tammy Jo Alexander
2.) Jason Callahan
3.) Kimberly McLean
In each one of these cases, these decedents left. Families tried filing police reports but those reports were either "lost" or were denied because they left of their own free will. Kimberly McLean's case was solved through DNA; investigators took DNA samples from her living child, and matched it to that of a family in Philadelphia. Without the DNA testing, they would've never known. Kim left in 1986, told her family never to come after her and that she would change her name twice so they couldn't find her. She committed suicide in the driveway of her in-laws home in TX in 2010, under the identity of "Lori Ruff." It took 6 years to figure out who she truly was and over 30 years to bring her mother closure.
I understand that people who leave their lives behind by choice do so for a reason, and that there is reasonable expectation for privacy, but who knows how many people ran away during the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and are now dead and unidentified.
I suppose my point in writing is to see if you can't help get a law or something passed that allows the family of a missing person to go to the police if they haven't heard from them in 10 years. I'm sure police don't have the manpower to investigate and hunt down every missing person ever, but maybe if the families requests were taken seriously? Maybe they could voluntarily give their DNA samples (without fear of being searched in a crime database) to match them to unidentified remains throughout the US?
Two of the most intriguing cases that are still unsolved are that of Lyle Stevik and our very own, local Annandale Jane Doe. Wouldn't it be grand to solve their identities and bring their families closure?
Anyway, I hope you can help, or at least point me in the right direction. I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to read this and consider my proposal.
Thanks, Astrid. I used your template to email my legislator, also.
i know we are not supposed to sleuth kimberly's family but while looking for old high school photos of her i stumbled across some information that seems... interesting? i am so unskilled at investigating compared to y'all but if i am right, it definitely sheds some light on a few of the things scribbled on the "notes" page found in the lock box. if what i found is relevant, it is not so much a mystery as it is sad proof that she missed and perhaps monitored/kept track of her family after she left. if what i found is correct, the "notes" page is just a sad look at someone who missed home (or certain aspects of it at least) and may have regretted leaving for at least those reasons.
since we can't sleuth the family here (which isn't really what i am doing anyway) is there anywhere people are currently carrying on conversations like this one? i just thought it would be interesting to see if someone could help me verify and then possibly share with you all (once i can be sure) how it connected with the notes page. but since it relates to the family (all innocent and perhaps "boring" information - nothing disparaging) i don't know where to share this information if it does turn out to be accurate. again, it could be nothing. i don't have the paid accounts to look further. is there a closed thread where people are discussing things like this? or is there *gasp* a forum on a different site where someone might be doing similar things to carry on with this case to wrap it all up for everyone and their lingering questions? :X
No sleuthing KM's family, nor posting names, addresses, telephone nos., etc.
Thank you :tyou:
Thanks for clarifying this - are we allowed to keep sleuthing on KM and how she ended up with the BST ID and so on, or is it kind of case closed from a websleuths perspective? This is the first case I've followed on here that's been solved so I'm not sure how it works.
Hi, Sunny. I wouldn't say it's "case closed" just yet. Many questions have been left unanswered, particularly with regard to the missing two years. I suggest further sleuthing be limited to tracing KM's footsteps during that period of time, when she was away from her family.
Naturally, we're all a bit curious about why she left in the first place. But it's practically impossible to explore that question without violating TOS. So we'll have to pass on that one, I'm afraid.
ETA: MSM reports covering KM's home life, should there be any, can be discussed.
Thank you for the clarification! I just wanted to quote to make sure people saw this and didn't get carried away. I did a little sleuthing but I think I might just let it go now. For those curious, however, there are not really 2 missing years of Kim's life. In 1986 she lived alone in King of Prussia, PA just as the ST article said. I found her address in 1987 and she was still in PA, living in an apt alone. She lived in Devon only 1.5 miles from the Strafford library that she had the phone number for on the notes page. It seems she never used her name again when she left PA in 1987 or 1988. The time frame for when she did this was very short--I would guess less than a year. A lot can happen in just a few months, however.