UK - Gunshots fired outside houses of parliament in London. 22 Mar 2017

skibaboo · Mar 22, 2017

I'm so confused. I posted the pic ^^ and now at the link there is more pics and one is labeled 'A man, believed to be the attacker, is put on the stretcher and wheeled into an ambulance inside the grounds of Parliament'

I won't post it as it shows his face but it can be found here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4338998/Police-open-fire-outside-House-Commons.html

oceanblueeyes · Mar 22, 2017

skibaboo said:
No I don't think you were, I think there may be some confusion as to who was seen being put in the ambulance. In the chaos I'm not sure how reliable witness statements can be. It seems the assailant was shot 3 times at close range, odds are he likely was killed.

I heard earlier an ambulance was seen speeding away with a police escort, on the news they speculated that could be the attacker, personally I think that is likely to be the police officer.

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Top is the attacker, bottom is the officer who was injured. Look who is receiving the most attention. I think it's likely the attacker is dead

3 police officers injured now being stated on Sky

Thank you, as always you are always on top of everything, and supply us with so much information.

May I ask you something? Does the UK usually treat injured victims at the scene for quite awhile before taking them to the hospital? The reason I asked is here in the US they are usually quickly assessed and loaded in the ambulance and taken to the hospital right away where doctors are waiting for their arrival.

IMO

Xara · Mar 22, 2017

lizziginne said:
BBC stating that there may have been two people in the car, one - a bald, white male, and second - a black male who was the assailant who was the assailant in Palace Yard

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So weird. My news said only 1 person and that it was an Asian male?

lizziginne · Mar 22, 2017

skibaboo said:
I'm so confused. I posted the pic ^^ and now at the link there is more pics and one is labeled 'A man, believed to be the attacker, is put on the stretcher and wheeled into an ambulance inside the grounds of Parliament'

I won't post it as it shows his face but it can be found here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4338998/Police-open-fire-outside-House-Commons.html

What that gentleman is dressed in looks to me like he could very much be a police officer - black trouser, black shirt - looks very much what the other officers wear under the vests?

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skibaboo · Mar 22, 2017

Crime scene tent up, I think where the injured officer was being treated?

lizziginne · Mar 22, 2017

Xara said:
So weird. My news said only 1 person and that it was an Asian male?

Problem was eyewitness accounts... conflicting information

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oceanblueeyes · Mar 22, 2017

skibaboo said:
I'm so confused. I posted the pic ^^ and now at the link there is more pics and one is labeled 'A man, believed to be the attacker, is put on the stretcher and wheeled into an ambulance inside the grounds of Parliament'

I won't post it as it shows his face but it can be found here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4338998/Police-open-fire-outside-House-Commons.html

Its easy to get confused when a news story is first breaking.

As the story continues things will become clearer.

IMO

oceanblueeyes · Mar 22, 2017

lizziginne said:
What that gentleman is dressed in looks to me like he could very much be a police officer - black trouser, black shirt - looks very much what the other officers wear under the vests?

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True but in many of these terrorist attacker cases they seem to dress in all black too.

As the story continues things that are confusing now will be clarified.

skibaboo · Mar 22, 2017

oceanblueeyes said:
Thank you, as always you are always on top of everything, and supply us with so much information.

May I ask you something? Does the UK usually treat injured victims at the scene for quite awhile before taking them to the hospital? The reason I asked is here in the US they are usually quickly assessed and loaded in the ambulance and taken to the hospital right away where doctors are waiting for their arrival.

IMO

Thank you OBE

I think that is dependent on where and what. In London and big cities, you will find specially trained doctors are on call and often travel with an air ambulance, we have medics on bicycles and motorcycles too, as well as in cars. It enables them to get to a scene much quicker than the ambulance. I'm no expert but they often seem to try and get a patient stable before transferring, especially with severe injuries and possible spinal injuries.

Whatkindofmagic · Mar 22, 2017

Reported on BBC police officer died

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skibaboo · Mar 22, 2017

lizziginne said:
What that gentleman is dressed in looks to me like he could very much be a police officer - black trouser, black shirt - looks very much what the other officers wear under the vests?

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Yeah, but look at the shoes at the foot of the stretcher. Tan suede, those are not something a PO would wear

lizziginne · Mar 22, 2017

BBC now reporting Police Officer has died

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lizziginne · Mar 22, 2017

oceanblueeyes said:
Thank you, as always you are always on top of everything, and supply us with so much information.

May I ask you something? Does the UK usually treat injured victims at the scene for quite awhile before taking them to the hospital? The reason I asked is here in the US they are usually quickly assessed and loaded in the ambulance and taken to the hospital right away where doctors are waiting for their arrival.

IMO

Yes, as a medic, we tend to stabilise people at the scene. Air Ambulance carries an emergency doctor who can perform roadside surgery if required. I was once with a patient (as a bystander, not a medic) for 2 hours once before she was airlifted to hospital

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Sprockett77 · Mar 22, 2017

3 German school children injured...Reuters...don't know how to link...sorry [emoji52]

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lizziginne · Mar 22, 2017

Sprockett77 said:
3 German school children injured...Reuters...don't know how to link...sorry [emoji52]

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Also French school/college party among those injured - from French president

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Xara · Mar 22, 2017

lizziginne said:
BBC now reporting Police Officer has died

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And the suspect is said to be alive and responsive.

Just not fair.

lizziginne · Mar 22, 2017

Xara said:
And the suspect is said to be alive and responsive.

Just not fair.

Where has that been said?

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Coquette · Mar 22, 2017

The suspect is a middle eastern male with a short beard. I am watching CBSN and they are showing photos of the suspect with the knife beside him.

Xara · Mar 22, 2017

lizziginne said:
Where has that been said?

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Just heard it on Fox news.....Think they are getting their info from Sky

lizziginne · Mar 22, 2017

Xara said:
Just heard it on Fox news.....Think they are getting their info from Sky

Three close range gunshots, I'm surprised :/ I'll wait until it's confirmed by the Met or BBC before I'm convinced he's survived

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