Deaths of Male College Students

[SuziQ]

The part 2 video isn't linked to the article yet. But at the front page of this site it's on the right under What are authorites doing about the Jenkins murder investigation. Click on next to find the video. On Monday there will be a report on the Albany NY case Shado listed.

http://www.kstp.com/

[shadowraiths]

For those interested in the statistical side of things, I've uploaded the data, stat info, and a couple of graphs. They can be found here.

NB: The BAC percentages pertains to only those with reported BAC (to avoid an unnatural skew)

[SuziQ]

Originally Posted by shadowraiths

For those interested in the statistical side of things, I've uploaded the data, stat info, and a couple of graphs. They can be found here.

NB: The BAC percentages pertains to only those with reported BAC (to avoid an unnatural skew)

Thank you so much and you have a pm.

[SuziQ]

Shado, looking at your list, the BAC is N/A. Does that mean they had no BAC? If so, then LE can't even use drinking as an excuse.

[MistyM]

oh wow if this subject could get it's own section that would be awesome. it's really hard to find all the information when it's scattered. i know some of these missing guys we have in here could be victims too.

ps. awesome info shadow.

[shadowraiths]

Originally Posted by SuziQ

Shado, looking at your list, the BAC is N/A. Does that mean they had no BAC? If so, then LE can't even use drinking as an excuse.

Correct. Which I noted in my River's Edge article. Basically, the breakdown is as follows.

Reported to have been drinking, whose BAC was also reported = [BAC %]
Reported to have been drinking, whose BAC was not reported = [unknown]
Not Reported to have been drinking = N/A

[shadowraiths]

After listening to these two reports, it appears the purpose of this series is to garner public interest in hopes to pressure LE to investigate these cases further. At least, that's my take.

[SuziQ]

Originally Posted by shadowraiths

After listening to these two reports, it appears the purpose of this series is to garner public interest in hopes to pressure LE to investigate these cases further. At least, that's my take.

That's my take on it too. I'm hoping that LE working on Joshua's case in N.Y. will take an unjaded approach. and I'm hoping that the fact the two detectives are from N.Y. will cause their info to be more welcome. All we need is one of these agencies to accept the theory to get the ball rolling.

[shadowraiths]

Originally Posted by SuziQ

Mcdraw, I'm bumping this post up because it explains why that site bothers me. Myspace would be a great way to network. I still think this guy at least admires the River Killings. Scary.

Shado, when you originally found this page, did you find out anything interesting on this guy?

Nope. Just noticed that a lot of those on their friends list were from La Crosse, seemed to be in their mid 30s, and seemed to be into serial killers. The creep factor is what compelled me to cache the page. That there were so many on their friends list is what compelled me to write it off. Now, with this latest theory, I got to thinking there might really be something there. Which is why I decided to upload the cached material to my server.

[MCDRAW]

Originally Posted by SuziQ

Don't know if this has anything to do with these cases...

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S425068.shtml?cat=1

Breaking news:
A body was recovered near the Mississippi River Friday night.
Police are at the scene near Lake Street and West River Parkway in Minneapolis.
Police tell 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS the incident may be suspicious in nature.
Stay with 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS and KSTP.com for updates as they become available.

I'm wondering if this victim's name could be Luke?

[Seven]

I apologize if someone already posted this.
I just heard about it tonight.

In this video report they refer to a gang that murdered
Chris Jenkins, calling them the "smiley face killers"




http://kstp.com/article/stories/s424705.shtml?cat=1v=1

SUMMARY SO FAR:

Watch part 1 of our investigation

THE JENKINS FILE: Rarely-seen documents related to the Chris Jenkins murder case

Interactive Map of victims possibly linked by the investigation

Visual timeline of the Jenkins murder case in Minneapolis

Extended video clips of detectives discussing the case

Kristi Piehl and John Mason talk about how the case has developed

List of possible Minn. and Wisc. victims

Kristi Piehl: How the story came about

Listen to Kristi Piehl talk about the story on the KQRS Morning Show


Monday morning on Good Morning America will also have a piece on this

[MeoW333]

This sounds more like some kind of "cult" or unorganized "gang"; i doubt they are affiliated with any known street gang.
We have to see what do all these young men that drowned have in common? Would they all be a member of the same "clique" if they knew each other? Did they all dress in a similar manner? Young white men, preppy, average style clothes? All were drowned after a night of drinking.
What do these young men represent to the killers? I think it may be more of a cult style scenario or group of organized people who are doing this for their own sick "fun" as opposed to initiation. Roofies definitely are involved or some kind of date rape drug; as the survivor didn't remember anything. Combined with alcohol, it should intensify the effects.

[SuziQ]

Very interesting interview with a radio station. Kristi starts of talking about how all the vics would have been best of friends had they known each other because they are all so much alike. They also discuss the "torture" issue. The torture they use doesn't leave evidence.

http://kstp.com/article/stories/s424554.shtml?cat=63v=1

5 EYEWITNESS NEWS Investigative Reporter Kristi Piehl appeared on the KQRS morning show Friday morning to talk about her groundbreaking investigation surrounding the murder of University of Minnesota college student Chris Jenkins and the possible connection to other river deaths around the country…

[cheko1]

KSTP is notorious for keeping investigations going. JMO

Kristi & Tim Shivo from 5 News work very hard on there stories.

I am very glad that Chris Jenkins murder is once again in the News. To many college students have mysteriously drowned. Chris was in to good of shape not to of put up a fight. JMO

[SuziQ]

In the radio interview Kristi talks about a case that's particularly disturbing. Jeff Geesey. She says we'll find out more about him this week. Kristi also say the detectives point out that each pod has their own torture method. The men found are vics of mental torture. The pods who inflict physical torture dispose of the bodies so they aren't found.

Rain pours down on a cold Wisconsin night as a man fights the current of the Mississippi River. It’s almost 2 A.M., and Jeff Geesey, a college sophomore in La Crosse, Wisconsin, is drunk. Lightning illuminates the sky as Geesey struggles in the violent currents until his arms and legs go numb. Exhausted, he succumbs to hypothermia and disappears beneath the water.


http://www.stuffmagazine.com/articles/index.aspx?id=817

[hockeymom]

This reporter was on Coast to Coast last night. ( www.coasttocoastam.com.).
I hope this continues to get national attention.

[SuziQ]

Map of the Missing
Milwaukee agents have investigated an Ann Arbor, Mich., man accused of stalking an old girlfriend and her family. "In threatening e-mail messages, he uses the initials of some of the missing men," 12 News investigative reporter Colleen Henry said.

Most interesting is how closely his path mirrors the map of the missing men. He recently moved from Ann Arbor to the Minneapolis area. His old girlfriend is a student at Concordia University in Mequon, just 35 miles south of Sheboygan on Interstate 43.

The FBI declined comment and the bureau's official position remains that these disappearances are not related.

http://www.vanceholmes.com/court/tri..._students.html

[SuziQ]

http://www.vanceholmes.com/court/tri..._students.html

Autopsy results:

Christopher Jenkins' Blood Alcohol Level was measured as
.12 in the aorta and .07 in the muscle tissue

Cause of death: Undetermined

Manner of death: Apparent Drowning

Mr. Jenkins had very little water in his lungs

[SuziQ]

SS or someone were looking for an article about the protective fencing being put up to prevent further drownings. I do remember the fencing. All I've found so far the info pasted below. I love how the authorities and civic leaders attempt to write the deaths off as drunken accidents backfired on them. Paybacks are a ***** aren't they?

http://www.vanceholmes.com/court/trial_missing_2.html


August 25, 2004
The Cost of Doing Nothing

In the first civil suit to be filed in any of the Midwest missing student drownings, La Crosse and the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse have been accused of contributing to the drowning death of Jared Dion.

Authorities from the city and college immediately and repeatedly blamed Dion's strange disappearance and death on a dangerous combination of the open bank of the Mississippi River and student binge drinking.

So be it.

Seeking $250,000, parents, Bryan and Kim Dion, and brother, Adam, state in a notice of claim that the college encouraged binge drinking with repeated school newspaper ads for drink specials at downtown bars -- and that the city encouraged binge drinking by offering free rides to bars using what students call, "the drunk bus."

Echoing words spoken by Chief Kondracki during April's tumultuous town meeting, the suit will allege the city failed to adequately provide policing, fencing, surveillance cameras or other obvious safety measures near the river.

Considering the alarming numbers of young men from La Crosse who have turned up dead in the Mississippi -- city and University officials can't reasonably claim they weren't aware of the problem.

The notice states: "The university and city had notice of this dangerous combination of students’ binge drinking in taverns/bars near the Mississippi River from multiple other drowning deaths since 1997 involving similar circumstances to Jared Dion’s untimely death."

[eve]

I have sent Adnoid 2 links to the Up to the Minute and Crimes threads on these cases as he asked me, so he can merge them - if there are other threads to include will someone send the links to Addie? Thanks guys!

Eve

[SuziQ]

Originally Posted by eve

I have sent Adnoid 2 links to the Up to the Minute and Crimes threads on these cases as he asked me, so he can merge them - if there are other threads to include will someone send the links to Addie? Thanks guys!

Eve

We are actually going to get a forum. Chico is working on it this weekend. I asked that the threads be brought over to the forum and locked and one general discussion thread started. It's too much of a logistical nightmare to combine the threads.

[shadowraiths]

Originally Posted by SuziQ

"Milwaukee agents have investigated an Ann Arbor, Mich., man accused of stalking an old girlfriend and her family. "In threatening e-mail messages, he uses the initials of some of the missing men," 12 News investigative reporter Colleen Henry said.

[...]

http://www.vanceholmes.com/court/tri..._students.html

Here's the original news report.

[hockeymom]

I just heard that this story was going to be discussed on Fox news. I have to go out so won't see it,but obviously its getting alot of attention.
It seems to me there have been other "accidental" drownings in upstate NY of college men. I'm not saying they could all be related,but who knows?

[shadowraiths]

Originally Posted by SuziQ

We are actually going to get a forum. Chico is working on it this weekend.

That's nice to know! Thanks SuziQ & Chico!

[eve]

Originally Posted by SuziQ

We are actually going to get a forum. Chico is working on it this weekend. I asked that the threads be brought over to the forum and locked and one general discussion thread started. It's too much of a logistical nightmare to combine the threads.

Awesome, that's great. Thanks, Suz.

Eve