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Old 05-03-2008, 02:26 PM
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WA-Snohomish County WA Jane Doe - located 1977

Unidentified White Female
  • The victim was discovered on August 14, 1977 in Everett, Snohomish County, Washington
  • Estimated Date of Death: 5 days prior
  • Cause of Death: Gunshot wound to the head.

Vital Statistics
  • Estimated age: 15-22 years old
  • Approximate Height and Weight: 5'10"; 155 lbs.
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: Short light brown hair, with no color treatment. No unusual scars or tattoos. Appeared to have a suntan.
  • Clothing: A tank top with pastel stripes, cut off jeans and blue and white tennis shoes. She had no purse or identifying papers in her pockets.
  • Jewelry: A Timex watch with a brown leather band on her left wrist.
  • Fingerprints: Available.
  • Dentals: Available. Her teeth were in good condition, upper two front teeth had dental restorations
Case History
Blackberry pickers searching through woods near Paine Field found the woman's partially decomposed body August 14, 1977, in the woods a half-block off Emander Road in Everett.
Investigators speculated she might have grown up on the East Coast, where the mineral balance in water could have kept her teeth so white.
As the body was discovered, 22-year-old David Marvin Roth was picked up by Gold Bar police on a weapons charge. An informant told police Roth had described picking up a hitchhiker days before and drinking beer with her. She told him she lived with two men. They went into the woods. She resisted his advances, and he strangled her with an elastic cord and shot her in the head seven times.
Police matched slugs found in the woman's head to Roth's .22-caliber rifle. He was convicted in 1979 and sentenced to life in prison. He did not know the victim's name.



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If you have any information about this case please contact:
Snohomish County Medical Examiner
425-438-6200
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Snohomish County sheriffs office
425-388-3523

You may remain anonymous when submitting information.
Agency Case Number:
77-17073
Source Information:
Seattle PI
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The Seattle Times

http://doenetwork.org/cases/516ufwa.html
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Old 05-03-2008, 02:29 PM
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Do You Know This Woman's Name?

Unlike most cold cases involving unidentified victims, Snohomish County sheriff's detectives actually know who killed the young woman whose remains were found about 30 years ago in blackberry brush south of Everett.

The evidence pointed to David M. Roth, then 20, who was convicted of first-degree murder in 1979 and sentenced to prison. Despite Roth's confession to a detective, he swore he never knew the name of the hitchhiker he picked up, then strangled and shot several times after she refused to have sex with him one day in August 1977.

The girl's identity still eludes sheriff's investigators, who Thursday released a new composite sketch of "Jane Doe." They hope someone will recognize their murder victim -- maybe a family member who reported her missing. And they hope to bring both cases some closure.

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Old 05-04-2008, 09:57 PM
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Yvonne Reglar- Possible Match?

The height is an exact match (don't know too many girls that are 5'10"). I know she went missing from a different part of the country, so it's probably a long shot, and the photo of her isn't very good.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ar_yvonne.html
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:16 PM
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What about this lady?

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Case File 579DFCA


Kimberly Ann Stewart
Missing since May 24, 1977 from Sheridan, Placer County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing
Vital Statistics Date Of Birth: March 22, 1956
Age at Time of Disappearance: 21 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'9"; 130 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Green eyes; brown hair.
Clothing: Pink top, green Ditto pants, blue and white tennis shoes.
Dentals: Available
Circumstances of Disappearance
Kimberly Morgan was only 15 and still in school when she got married, in January 1972. The couple had two daughters. The couple separated frequently and Kimberly twice filed for divorce, once in 1974, and again on April 13, 1977, little more than a month prior to their final meeting at a pizza parlor in Wheatland.
The husband had met with Kimberly to give her some money. Patrons at the restaurant were interviewed later and remembered that the couple had argued and departed shortly after their arrival.
The husband told police he and Kimberly left the restaurant in separate vehicles and that, hours later, a member of his family had spotted her car parked on Highway 65 approximately two miles from Sheridan. When the husband went to that location with his brother, they found the car, keys still in the ignition, and her checkbook.
But Kimberly was gone. Friends interviewed after her disappearance said Kimberly would never have left her daughters voluntarily, and sheriff's investigators announced that she was likely a victim of foul play.
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If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
Placer County Sheriff
530-889-7800
E-Mail Agency Case Number:
95-0306080 NCIC Number:
M-052719736
Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case. Source Information:
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Old 05-05-2008, 01:54 AM
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ETA RULED OUT What about Cherry Greenman? She is missing from Washington, though, so you think they would have checked her. Her DNA is in CODIS, but you never know... Height and weight are close, but not exact. She was known to hitchhike in the area at the time. Long shot, but maybe?


Missing Since: September 14, 1976 from Waterville, Washington
Age: 19 years old
Height and Weight: 5'7, 135 pounds
Distinguishing Characteristics: Caucasian female. Brown hair, brown eyes. Greenman has a birthmark on her forehead.

Greenman is believed to have been last seen in Waterville, Washington on September 14, 1976, but it is possible that she went missing after that date. She has never been heard from again. Greenman is described as a "free spirit" who frequently hitchhiked from state to state in 1976, but she did keep in touch with her family. She may have traveled elsewhere in Washington state, or to Oregon, around the time of her disappearance. Few details are available in her case.

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Old 05-07-2008, 12:12 AM
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This should really not be that difficult to solve - provided someone is looking for her. She's very tall and I would say either a runaway or a "free spirit." I've checked WA, OR and all of the midwestern states - based on the perps comments. No luck yet.....
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:51 AM
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This one is really interesting and one would think solvable.
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Old 08-25-2008, 01:10 AM
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Snohomish County Jane Doe 1977 Found strangled/shot in Everett, Washington

This young woman needs to be identified. She was found in Everett, Washington shot and strangled. Her killer has been caught, served time in prison, and is now out free.
The detectives recently began a new push to solve the case. Who is she? Please help find her name!



According to police, Jane Doe was hitchhiking near Silver Lake, when David Roth, 20 years old at the time, picked her up on his way back from swimming. Police said they went to an area near where her body was later found and drank some beer. When she refused his sexual advances, he strangled her and then shot her.

http://snohomishcountyjanedoe.homestead.com/index.html

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/516ufwa.html

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Unidentified White Female

* The victim was discovered on August 14, 1977 in Everett, Snohomish County, Washington
* Estimated Date of Death: 5 days prior
* Cause of Death: Gunshot wound to the head.
* Decomposed Remains

Vital Statistics

* Estimated age: 15-22 years old
* Approximate Height and Weight: 5'8"-5'10" (70"); 155 lbs.
* Distinguishing Characteristics: Short light brown hair, with no color treatment. No unusual scars or tattoos. Appeared to have a suntan.
* Clothing: A tank top with white, blue, green, & pink pastel stripes, cut off blue jeans, pink panties and blue and white "MR SNEEKER" tennis shoes size 7. She had no purse or identifying papers in her pockets.
* Jewelry: A Timex watch, with a yellow metal face and a brown leather band, on her left wrist.
* Fingerprints: Available.
* Dentals: Available. Her teeth were in good condition, upper two front teeth had dental restorations.
* DNA: Pending

Case History
Blackberry pickers searching through woods, 1.5 blocks off of Emander Road on 113th Street, near Paine Field, found the woman's partially decomposed body August 14, 1977, in the woods a half-block off Emander Road in Everett. South Everett area off 112th St. SW and 4th Ave. W. (which was called Emander Road at that time).
As the body was discovered, 22-year-old David Marvin Roth was picked up by Gold Bar police on a weapons charge. An informant told police Roth had described picking up a hitchhiker days before and drinking beer with her. She told him she lived with two men. As they went into the woods, the victim resisted his advances, and he strangled her with an elastic cord and shot her in the head seven times.
Police matched slugs found in the woman's head to Roth's .22-caliber rifle. He was convicted in 1979 and sentenced to life in prison. He did not know the victim's name.

Investigators
If you have any information about this case please contact:
Snohomish County Medical Examiner
Deborah Hollis
425-438-6200
Email
Or
Snohomish County sheriffs office
425-388-3523
You may remain anonymous when submitting information.

Agency Case #:
77-17073
ME 08SN0977

NCIC #:
U-579855433

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Old 08-25-2008, 01:34 AM
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Other Links-

Washington State Missing Persons
http://www.waspc.org/mp/missing.php?wac=92U0000006

Seattle PI Unidentified Listing
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/missin...unty=snohomish

MySpace
http://www.myspace.com/1977snohomishjanedoecase

Jurors In Roth Murder Trial Will Hear Of The Death Of A Previous Wife In 1981 - Jan. 29th, 1992
http://community.seattletimes.nwsour...9&slug=1472737
"Outside court, Muenster said he may also have to fight the prosecution over evidence about Roth's younger brother, David, being a convicted murderer.
David Roth, 34, confessed to killing a hitchhiker in August 1977. The woman was never identified and was buried as "Jane Doe."
David Roth is serving a life sentence at the state prison in Walla Walla. He is eligible for parole in 1997.
Muenster said Brenneman had advised him that she may ask to include testimony from witnesses who said Roth commented that his brother was "stupid for getting caught.""

Unidentified 1977 murder victim's body exhumed - April 25,2008
http://www.heraldnet.com/article/200...WS01/486563056

Police hope sketch will help ID 1977 murder victim - May 1, 2008
http://www.snohomishcountybusinessjo...75371/0/images

Lacey man helps in old murder case - May 30th, 2008
http://www.theolympian.com/377/story/464322.html
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Old 08-25-2008, 05:51 AM
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My plan

Go to the site and take pictures for the Ws's.
Make flyers, get volunteers, and plan a day to hit the streets near Silver Lake.
See about getting donated space on billboards/newspapers/bulk mailings.
Look into tabling at an event to highlight missing persons and specifically Snohomish County Jane Doe (Jock and Jane Doe too).

Anyone live in Washington -BC- Or Oregon interested in handing out flyers or staffing tables?
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:15 AM
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Today I scheduled a table at an event for the end of September east of Seattle, Washington.
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:28 AM
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Here is a link to the other thread started for this Snohomish Doe.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ight=snohomish
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My plan

Go to the site and take pictures for the Ws's.
Make flyers, get volunteers, and plan a day to hit the streets near Silver Lake.
See about getting donated space on billboards/newspapers/bulk mailings.
Look into tabling at an event to highlight missing persons and specifically Snohomish County Jane Doe (Jock and Jane Doe too).

Anyone live in Washington -BC- Or Oregon interested in handing out flyers or staffing tables?
Great work Emily !!
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:52 AM
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Do we know the eye color on her?
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Old 08-26-2008, 11:58 AM
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No, she was deceased about 5 days before they found her. Her hair is light brown to brown. Silver Lake is East of the city of Everett about 20 minutes drive on hwy 2. Everett is about 20 minutes north of Seattle.

Thanks Barb! I encourage everyone to make flyers and post them in your areas for one unidentified person. Imagine what would happen if we all did that!
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Old 08-26-2008, 12:00 PM
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She's probably been checked but one possibility: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2394dfwa.html
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Old 08-26-2008, 12:57 PM
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The missing womans DNA is in CODIS but it looks like the unidentified females hasn't made it yet into the databank. They exhumed her this spring I believe and the detectives have worked really hard on this case. That would make me think they've looked into everyone they can find in Washington but you never know as sometimes one is missed. Her case history fits nicely.

From what I remember reading the killer helped with the sketch in particular the hair style. So we may be looking for a girl who kept her hair that style, then again he may be a total liar.

If you think this one should be checked please do in whatever way you wish.

She must have never had children otherwise they should have reported stretch marks. I found a young woman who looks like her, but can't be. I sometimes wonder if the date of report can be after they actually disappeared because someone reports them late and no one else knows the difference. So I always look a month over.
http://www.nampn.org/cases/nolan_georgia.html
Gosh I don't know but that looks just like her to me.
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:30 PM
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This missing person list for Washington State might help
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/missing/
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WA-'77 Jane Doe

I submitted this Doe against Rose Cole, to find out Rose Cole's DNA was already run against '77 Jane Doe it was not a match. I spoke with the detective and he asked if we'd be willing to see what we can do with this case:
To: "Christine2448@websleuths.com"
Christine,

These are the links to our unidentified remains.

Thank you for helping us try to get her identified.

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James H. Scharf #1155
Snohomish County Sheriff's Office
Major Crimes Unit Cold Case Team
3000 Rockefeller Ave. M/S 606
Everett, WA 98201-4046

Help us identify our precious Jane Doe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNb2rFDlD6U

http://snohomishcountyjanedoe.homestead.com/

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COLD CASE PLAYING CARDS AND STORIES LINK: http://www.heraldnet.com/apps/pbcs.d...3447122&Ref=PH
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Odd side note...since she seems to have been wearing Men's shoes, she may have irregular arches to her feet. My mother has very wide arches to her feet and has to wear men's shoes since they are wider. Some other women do too.
Then again, it could have been a fashion statement.
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Odd side note...since she seems to have been wearing Men's shoes, she may have irregular arches to her feet. My mother has very wide arches to her feet and has to wear men's shoes since they are wider. Some other women do too.
Then again, it could have been a fashion statement.
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Odd side note...since she seems to have been wearing Men's shoes, she may have irregular arches to her feet.
Then again, it could have been a fashion statement.
Awesome. I played soccer, I wore boys shoes. I was a size 7 1/2-8 womans, wore 5-6 boys. I could get great prices on Nike's buying at boy prices instead of mens/womens
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Found her in namus.gov. They have her ID potential as four stars out of five (that's good). They also give the address where she was found. I'm not sure that I am allowed to give it, but it's there if someone wants to see the area.
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I've worn guys shoes too - wide feet. I have always thought of this beauty as a free-spirit kind of hippie girl. She was very tall and I've searched the missing persons sites from all over the country based mostly on that characteristic with no luck. My gut feeling is that she thumbed her way to WA and is not necessarily from the NW. I will keep looking!
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I thought these two had potential, but the height is off by quite a bit on both.

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