2010.06.19 ~ Kyron Horman's Blended Family

[WholeLottaRosie]

Originally Posted by pdx

IIRC, it's the KGW in-house (Channel 8) local version.

Do you have a link on this? Thanks.

[AvalonBlue]

Re-posting eyes4crime's great Updated and Corrected Timeline
about blended family.

Since I re-started this discussion (in the very wee hours Friday) about Desiree saying she did *not* know Terri as a friend before Kyron's birth -- I thought I should check back in and do an update since there seems to be quite a bit of interest in this.

Originally Posted by eyes4crime

Updated and corrected time-line - thanks fellow WS's. time-line marriage, separations, births
Taken from article in Oregonian and WW(no longer working)

2000...Desiree and Kaine married

2001 - marriage soured, separation in the works.

January, 2002 - Desiree becomes pregnant - try again at marriage

August, 2002 - Desiree 8 months pregnant, files for divorce.

September 9th, 2002 - Kyron is born.

2003 - Kaine & Desiree officially divorce. Kyron lives with Desiree (shared custody)

One month after divorce - Desiree fears Kaine will "remove our children from their residence". Restraining order issued with orders that neither parent can take children away. (source: WW)

2004 - Desiree goes to Canada for treatment of a life-threatening kidney failure.

2004 - Kaine brought in Terri and son to care for Kyron. (corrected via statement bio mom made about not knowing Terri).

2004 - After two months, Desiree returns from Canada with $30,000 in medical bills and moves in with parents so she can get back on her feet.

April, 2007 - Terri and Kaine marry in Kauai

2009 - Baby girl born to Kaine and Terri

March, 2010 - Son sent to live with grandparents.

June 26, 2010 - Kaine and baby girl move out

June 28th - Kaine files for divorce and RO to protect baby girl from Terri.

(And here's my original post from last night)
[quote=AvalonBlue;5358929]Question about possible thread: Were TH & DY really friends?

I'm very frustrated to keep hearing *and* reading on every newscast and TV show and every online media source that TH and DY were friends before Kyron was even born. Also frustrating to me is the repeated news that TH knew and helped take care of Kyron from the time he was "three days old."

The first time I read all this was in an Oregon Live article about "The Blended Family." TH's friends have also claimed it is true -- however, DY stated very clearly in the media interviews with Kaine that she was *NOT* friends with TH.

Please see bolded quote below from WS Timeline. I wasn't sure how to directly quote it from the WS Case Calendar to this thread, so I bolded instead.

From WS Case Calendar and timeline information
eyes4crime 6/30/10 at 4:31 p.m. Post #9
Updated and corrected time-line - thanks fellow WS's. time-line marriage, separations, births
Taken from article in Oregonian and WW(no longer working)

2004 - Desiree goes to Canada for treatment of a life-threatening kidney failure.

2004 - Kaine brought in Terri and son to care for Kyron. (corrected via statement bio mom made about not knowing Terri).

So, WS has clearly corrected the original incorrect Oregonian info about the friendship. I'm proud about this due to being a member here and frustrated that no one else in the media seems to have done so.

To me, DY's words, tone, and demeanor clearly indicated she was *not* friends with TH. Did the original erroneous information from the Oregonian come from TH's "friends" or TH's mother?

I would like to see this misinformation cleared up -- #1. because it has been refuted by DY and #2. every time I read it or hear someone say it, the "long friendship" (error) statement seems to be used to cast a negative light on DY -- IMHO.

So, does anyone else have an issue with this? Does anyone else have information about how DY and TH came to know each other and how to correct this constantly repeated error in the media?

TIA

The *original* source for the mis-information was in the Oregonian
Kyron Horman's blended family: Friends describe a close ...

Jun 19, 2010 ... Terri Moulton Horman and Desiree Young were friends before Kyron was born.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i..._family_f.html
and in Willamette Week.

Every other article about the family background that I have read seems to draw heavily from this original Oregonian "blended family" article. As time has unfolded, it certainly seems that the "friends" who provided quite a bit of (mis)information for this article were TH's friends.

I *know* I clearly heard DY say (on a 6/25/10 video with Kaine) she didn't know TH before Kyron was born. I'm certain the video was the longer one done locally by KOIN, Channel 6 News. It seems that video has been edited now and I am going to call the station and find out if the original is still available.

Meanwhile, last night CharlestonGal posted the following interesting observation about this situation.

Originally Posted by CharlestonGal

Terri moved in with Kaine in 2003 (before Kaine assumed full custody). If you read further down the "blended family" article, it talks about Terri's personal, work and education history. It says that AFTER moving in with Kaine, Terri worked at substitute teaching positions from 2003 to 2006.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i..._family_f.html

"Between March 2001 and June 2002, she was a substitute teacher in the Hillsboro School District. According to spokesman Beth Graser, Terri held long-term jobs at Eastwood, Mooberry and Lenox elementaries.

After moving in with Kaine, Terri went onto the on-call substitute teachers list between 2003 and 2006. Graser said Terri held no more long-term jobs with the district."


What that says to me is that Terri moved in with Kaine a year before he had custody of Kyron, so the whole "nanny" and "helping with the baby" thing goes out the window right there. She moved in with him before Kyron was even there.

ETA: Desiree provided a direct and simple NO when asked if she and Terri were friends during Desiree's pregnancy.

And then Donjeta provided this relevant post:

Originally Posted by Donjeta

Terri's friend told the media that Terri had known Kyron ever since he was three days old. It is generally a bit hard to get to know newborns unless you know one or more of his parents/other caretakers. Desiree denied having known Terri before Kyron was born so we can perhaps safely assume that Terri knew Kaine.


http://www.nwcn.com/news/oregon/Frie...-96798439.html

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i...the_day_k.html

Terri knowing Kaine would fit in with what her mother had to say about her relationship with Kyron. She lets us understand that Terri and Kaine have been together for seven or eight years and she's known Kyron from an infant (Kyron is now seven). She also remarks that the reason for her being so mother-like for Kyron is that the parents were separated. It would be an unusual remark if the nature of the relationship with the baby is a friendship with the baby's mother but it makes sense in a situation in which a woman has a relationship with the father. IMO

Many posters have wanted a link to the interview and so do I! Please help if you can.

I know this is a long post -- however I wanted to hopefully sum up and clarify something about this whole confusing case

Several other posters made great comments, additions, etc., since last night, however I decided not to include all so I wouldn't take up a whole page on the thread.

[AbbieNormal]

[quote=AvalonBlue;5363186]Re-posting eyes4crime's great Updated and Corrected Timeline
about blended family.

Since I re-started this discussion (in the very wee hours Friday) about Desiree saying she did *not* know Terri as a friend before Kyron's birth -- I thought I should check back in and do an update since there seems to be quite a bit of interest in this.




(And here's my original post from last night)

Originally Posted by AvalonBlue

Question about possible thread: Were TH & DY really friends?

I'm very frustrated to keep hearing *and* reading on every newscast and TV show and every online media source that TH and DY were friends before Kyron was even born. Also frustrating to me is the repeated news that TH knew and helped take care of Kyron from the time he was "three days old."

The first time I read all this was in an Oregon Live article about "The Blended Family." TH's friends have also claimed it is true -- however, DY stated very clearly in the media interviews with Kaine that she was *NOT* friends with TH.

Please see bolded quote below from WS Timeline. I wasn't sure how to directly quote it from the WS Case Calendar to this thread, so I bolded instead.

From WS Case Calendar and timeline information
eyes4crime 6/30/10 at 4:31 p.m. Post #9
Updated and corrected time-line - thanks fellow WS's. time-line marriage, separations, births
Taken from article in Oregonian and WW(no longer working)

2004 - Desiree goes to Canada for treatment of a life-threatening kidney failure.

2004 - Kaine brought in Terri and son to care for Kyron. (corrected via statement bio mom made about not knowing Terri).

So, WS has clearly corrected the original incorrect Oregonian info about the friendship. I'm proud about this due to being a member here and frustrated that no one else in the media seems to have done so.

To me, DY's words, tone, and demeanor clearly indicated she was *not* friends with TH. Did the original erroneous information from the Oregonian come from TH's "friends" or TH's mother?

I would like to see this misinformation cleared up -- #1. because it has been refuted by DY and #2. every time I read it or hear someone say it, the "long friendship" (error) statement seems to be used to cast a negative light on DY -- IMHO.

So, does anyone else have an issue with this? Does anyone else have information about how DY and TH came to know each other and how to correct this constantly repeated error in the media?

TIA

The *original* source for the mis-information was in the Oregonian
Kyron Horman's blended family: Friends describe a close ...

Jun 19, 2010 ... Terri Moulton Horman and Desiree Young were friends before Kyron was born.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i..._family_f.html
and in Willamette Week.

Every other article about the family background that I have read seems to draw heavily from this original Oregonian "blended family" article. As time has unfolded, it certainly seems that the "friends" who provided quite a bit of (mis)information for this article were TH's friends.

I *know* I clearly heard DY say (on a 6/25/10 video with Kaine) she didn't know TH before Kyron was born. I'm certain the video was the longer one done locally by KOIN, Channel 6 News. It seems that video has been edited now and I am going to call the station and find out if the original is still available.

Meanwhile, last night CharlestonGal posted the following interesting observation about this situation.



And then Donjeta provided this relevant post:



Many posters have wanted a link to the interview and so do I! Please help if you can.

I know this is a long post -- however I wanted to hopefully sum up and clarify something about this whole confusing case

Several other posters made great comments, additions, etc., since last night, however I decided not to include all so I wouldn't take up a whole page on the thread.

So we can deduce from all of this that Terri had relationship w/ Kaine and *possibly* was living with him when Desiree went to Canada for medical treatment?
Ugh. Sorry but I like Terri less and less as each day goes by.

[WholeLottaRosie]

[quote=AvalonBlue;5363186]Re-posting eyes4crime's great Updated and Corrected Timeline
about blended family.

Since I re-started this discussion (in the very wee hours Friday) about Desiree saying she did *not* know Terri as a friend before Kyron's birth -- I thought I should check back in and do an update since there seems to be quite a bit of interest in this.




(And here's my original post from last night)

Originally Posted by AvalonBlue

Question about possible thread: Were TH & DY really friends?

I'm very frustrated to keep hearing *and* reading on every newscast and TV show and every online media source that TH and DY were friends before Kyron was even born. Also frustrating to me is the repeated news that TH knew and helped take care of Kyron from the time he was "three days old."

The first time I read all this was in an Oregon Live article about "The Blended Family." TH's friends have also claimed it is true -- however, DY stated very clearly in the media interviews with Kaine that she was *NOT* friends with TH.

Please see bolded quote below from WS Timeline. I wasn't sure how to directly quote it from the WS Case Calendar to this thread, so I bolded instead.

From WS Case Calendar and timeline information
eyes4crime 6/30/10 at 4:31 p.m. Post #9
Updated and corrected time-line - thanks fellow WS's. time-line marriage, separations, births
Taken from article in Oregonian and WW(no longer working)

2004 - Desiree goes to Canada for treatment of a life-threatening kidney failure.

2004 - Kaine brought in Terri and son to care for Kyron. (corrected via statement bio mom made about not knowing Terri).

So, WS has clearly corrected the original incorrect Oregonian info about the friendship. I'm proud about this due to being a member here and frustrated that no one else in the media seems to have done so.

To me, DY's words, tone, and demeanor clearly indicated she was *not* friends with TH. Did the original erroneous information from the Oregonian come from TH's "friends" or TH's mother?

I would like to see this misinformation cleared up -- #1. because it has been refuted by DY and #2. every time I read it or hear someone say it, the "long friendship" (error) statement seems to be used to cast a negative light on DY -- IMHO.

So, does anyone else have an issue with this? Does anyone else have information about how DY and TH came to know each other and how to correct this constantly repeated error in the media?

TIA

The *original* source for the mis-information was in the Oregonian
Kyron Horman's blended family: Friends describe a close ...

Jun 19, 2010 ... Terri Moulton Horman and Desiree Young were friends before Kyron was born.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i..._family_f.html
and in Willamette Week.

Every other article about the family background that I have read seems to draw heavily from this original Oregonian "blended family" article. As time has unfolded, it certainly seems that the "friends" who provided quite a bit of (mis)information for this article were TH's friends.

I *know* I clearly heard DY say (on a 6/25/10 video with Kaine) she didn't know TH before Kyron was born. I'm certain the video was the longer one done locally by KOIN, Channel 6 News. It seems that video has been edited now and I am going to call the station and find out if the original is still available.

Meanwhile, last night CharlestonGal posted the following interesting observation about this situation.



And then Donjeta provided this relevant post:



Many posters have wanted a link to the interview and so do I! Please help if you can.

I know this is a long post -- however I wanted to hopefully sum up and clarify something about this whole confusing case

Several other posters made great comments, additions, etc., since last night, however I decided not to include all so I wouldn't take up a whole page on the thread.

Thanks, Avalon Blue. I am not trying to be difficult on this issue, but, I did watch the interviews and did not hear this. This is why I have asked for a link. I know this case seems, more than any other recent one I can recall, to be rife with rumours and all, and with it being reported one way (they were friends) in MSM, I would really like to be clear on this, before accepting that they didn't know each other or were friends, as fact. And that last few words is I guess another question, did DY say they didn't know each other, or, did she say they weren't friends. Big difference if she said either one.

[TrY]

(Snipped for brevity)



"Many posters have wanted a link to the interview and so do I! Please help if you can."

The interview is on youtube:

YouTube

YouTube

Go to the 6:04 mark to about the 6:11 mark -- that's where the interviewer asks bio mom DY if she knew TH before Kyron was born, DY says "No, I did not" and then "No" again. Also watch KH's body language and lack of expression and movement, IMO, when that question is asked by the interviewer and answered by DY.

(I think this is the KOIN channel 6 interview that was being asked about further up this thread -- I also could not find the video on the KOIN website. If this video is not KOIN, can someone please post the correct tv station/network as DY and KH did a lot of interviews on 6/25.)

[CharlestonGal]

Originally Posted by TrY

(Snipped for brevity)


Go to the 6:04 mark to about the 6:11 mark -- that's where the interviewer asks bio mom DY if she knew TH before Kyron was born, DY says "No, I did not" and then "No" again. Also watch KH's body language and lack of expression and movement, IMO, when that question is asked by the interviewer and answered by DY.

(I think this is the KOIN channel 6 interview that was being asked about further up this thread -- I also could not find the video on the KOIN website. If this video is not KOIN, can someone please post the correct tv station/network as DY and KH did a lot of interviews on 6/25.)

Thank you so much for finding that. I've watched the videos so many times because people keep asking for links - I just couldn't watch them all again right now.

Verbatim from 6:04:

Interviewer: "Despite the divorce, you seem - I mean, you knew Terri before Kyron was born, right?"

DY: "No,I did not.

Interviewer: "You didn't?"

DY: "No."

So, that clears that up. According to DY, she did NOT know Terri before Kyron was born, despite what Terri, her family, or her friends say.

[WholeLottaRosie]

Originally Posted by TrY

(Snipped for brevity)



"Many posters have wanted a link to the interview and so do I! Please help if you can."

The interview is on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rx3YHyQrM8

Go to the 6:04 mark to about the 6:11 mark -- that's where the interviewer asks bio mom DY if she knew TH before Kyron was born, DY says "No, I did not" and then "No" again. Also watch KH's body language and lack of expression and movement, IMO, when that question is asked by the interviewer and answered by DY.

(I think this is the KOIN channel 6 interview that was being asked about further up this thread -- I also could not find the video on the KOIN website. If this video is not KOIN, can someone please post the correct tv station/network as DY and KH did a lot of interviews on 6/25.)

Thanks! I missed that on the first go round. But, the question, Did you know TH before Kyron was born, makes me wonder, when did DY meet TH. Did DY know TH before TH hooked up with KH? That is still something I would liket o know.

[sofia76]

Originally Posted by CharlestonGal

Thank you so much for finding that. I've watched the videos so many times because people keep asking for links - I just couldn't watch them all again right now.

Verbatim from 6:04:

Interviewer: "Despite the divorce, you seem - I mean, you knew Terri before Kyron was born, right?"

DY: "No,I did not.

Interviewer: "You didn't?"

DY: "No."

So, that clears that up. According to DY, she did NOT know Terri before Kyron was born, despite what Terri, her family, or her friends say.

My next question would have been ... "So when did you meet Terri?"

[WholeLottaRosie]

Originally Posted by sofia76

My next question would have been ... "So when did you meet Terri?"

ITA. I think that the interviewer missed a lot of questions I would have asked.

[Curious Me]

Thank You TrY for finding that video. DY definitely says she didn't know TH before. This is important information that we now know is correct.

Kyron wasn't even born yet, so I find it odd that they talk as though he'd be affected while they were divorcing, but he wasn't even born yet. Correct? Did DY really have custody and care for him for the two years before her illness? Did Kyron go for visitation to his Dad's?

Curious if Kyron felt more attached to DY than TH? Curious about alot of stuff.

[TrY]

Originally Posted by Curious Me

Thank You TrY for finding that video. DY definitely says she didn't know TH before. This is important information that we now know is correct.

Kyron wasn't even born yet, so I find it odd that they talk as though he'd be affected while they were divorcing, but he wasn't even born yet. Correct? Did DY really have custody and care for him for the two years before her illness? Did Kyron go for visitation to his Dad's?

Curious if Kyron felt more attached to DY than TH? Curious about alot of stuff.

The interviewer did miss a chance at a followup question -- I also would be curious as to when and how DY met TH and how Kyron came to be in the care of TH in the first place.

In my opinion the family dynamics are very complicated -- they are probably a lot more complicated then what the media has reported so far. (The thread about the Oregonian newspaper and the Willamette Weekly not being allowed at an off the record presser is locked but I do think that the fact that those media organizations have started digging into the family tree and family dynamics likely played a part in why those two organizations were not allowed at the off the record presser.)

[Curious Me]

That is what is catching my attention the most is the need to control media so they don't report some certain thing. What's to hide? It's beyond weird. Basically, I'd like to understand if TH was a truly loving Mom to Kyron, or resentful enough to put him in harms way. Was Dad real involved in Kyron's life or did he leave it all to TH?

It is all about Kyron.

[AvalonBlue]

Thank you, thank you, thank you, TrY

I really appreciate you finding the correct video.

Thanks also to everyone who responded to my post wanting a link and asking other questions. I like it that WS really challenges us to think. I just joined toward the beginning of June and am impressed with how posters help *and* question each other.

This case, as so many of us seem to agree, has lessened any strong "faith" in taking media's "word" at face value. This actually may be a great thing -- if we offer respectful criticism and suggestions and hold them (and ourselves) to high standards.

This case also seems to speed up like a hare -- and then slow down like a tortoise. And, at any speed, there are more twists and turns than a slithering serpent.

Originally Posted by TrY

(Snipped for brevity)



"Many posters have wanted a link to the interview and so do I! Please help if you can."

The interview is on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rx3YHyQrM8

Go to the 6:04 mark to about the 6:11 mark -- that's where the interviewer asks bio mom DY if she knew TH before Kyron was born, DY says "No, I did not" and then "No" again. Also watch KH's body language and lack of expression and movement, IMO, when that question is asked by the interviewer and answered by DY.

(I think this is the KOIN channel 6 interview that was being asked about further up this thread -- I also could not find the video on the KOIN website. If this video is not KOIN, can someone please post the correct tv station/network as DY and KH did a lot of interviews on 6/25.)

[Noway]

I put that video clip and CharlestonGal's transcription in the

Who's Who

Who's Who

too.

Thank you all!

[DairyGirl]

I don't know if anyone has already posted this as far as how long TH has known Kyron but I just saw a picture of Kaine and TH with a baby taken Halloween, 2003, when Kyron would be about 13 months old. I'm pretty sure the baby is Kyron so she apparently knew him before she moved in (2004) to help take care of him.

[Noway]

Are you allowed to link to the photo? Or was it that you were personally shown a photo and there is no link?

[DairyGirl]

Originally Posted by Noway

Are you allowed to link to the photo? Or was it that you were personally shown a photo and there is no link?

I don't have the link handy but it's in her (still open) Facebook photos. I'll see if I can find it again.
eta I found it but I am going to PM a mod and ask if it's ok to link here.

[DairyGirl]

Originally Posted by Noway

Are you allowed to link to the photo? Or was it that you were personally shown a photo and there is no link?

I got the ok to link this picture. It's Kaine, Terri and a baby I assume is Kyron Halloween, 2003. Such a cute little guy.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...&id=1264414625

[Donjeta]

Quoted from another thread.

Originally Posted by Mrs G Norris

http://kdrv.com/page/180433

"I ah didn't know Terri until um after Kyron was born, that was when I met her...it took me about a year and a half before I even talked to her, so Kyron was about a year and a half old."

Affair.

Actually she says "even ever talked to her" if it makes a difference to anyone. Certainly not old friends.

I think it is important for this thread to note that DY and TY in this press conference make a point of saying a lot of things that have been said about the family are wrong and ask to consider the source. The implication being, IMO, that Terri's friends and family have said some things that are not quite correct.

She seems to be confirming that Terri was somehow in Kyron's life from birth though because she says it took a year and a half from the time they first met about the time when Kyron was born to when they first talked.
She wouldn't say "it took me a year and a half to talk to her" unless Terri had been in the picture in some capacity or other for a year and a half and if not as a friend of Desiree's then it probably must have been as a partner of Kaine's, just like Carol Moulton originally said.

The question is, how did the false information about how Terri met Kyron in the article come to be published? Who was the source and did that source believe all that false information themselves or was he/she purposefully lying about it? What else have we heard that came from that source?

[DairyGirl]

Originally Posted by Donjeta

Quoted from another thread.



Actually she says "even ever talked to her" if it makes a difference to anyone. Certainly not old friends.

I think it is important for this thread to note that DY and TY in this press conference make a point of saying a lot of things that have been said about the family are wrong and ask to consider the source. The implication being, IMO, that Terri's friends and family have said some things that are not quite correct.

She seems to be confirming that Terri was somehow in Kyron's life from birth though because she says it took a year and a half from the time they first met about the time when Kyron was born to when they first talked.
She wouldn't say "it took me a year and a half to talk to her" unless Terri had been in the picture in some capacity or other for a year and a half and if not as a friend of Desiree's then it probably must have been as a partner of Kaine's, just like Carol Moulton originally said.

The question is, how did the false information about how Terri met Kyron in the article come to be published? Who was the source and did that source believe all that false information themselves or was he/she purposefully lying about it? What else have we heard that came from that source?

I think the source was orignally TH and what she told people to sanitize her version of events. Probably wouldn't look good for a school teacher to admit she may have broke up a marriage while the wife was pregnant.

[Donjeta]

Here's what DY has to say about the false information in the end of the presser:

She is asked what she'd like for people to know and she first says to get everyone to know Kyron and goes on to say,

"I know that I can say that a lot of information that's been reported prior about... our family our relationship uh whatever the case is
a lot of it has been false,
uh, so unfortunately you can't always believe what you hear or read read, so if it's not coming from our mouths you know, kind of question the source but, like, yeah. Like the question you asked before I wasn't friends with her prior, the same type of scenario, a lot of the information has been false."

(Transcribed by me.)

[Donjeta]

Originally Posted by DairyGirl

I think the source was orignally TH and what she told people to sanitize her version of events. Probably wouldn't look good for a school teacher to admit she may have broke up a marriage while the wife was pregnant.

TH and KH together, maybe? After all, a woman can't break up a man's marriage unless he's willing. They waited until a press conference in which Kaine was not present to make a point of this not being true. Perhaps to avoid embarrassing him? It looks like it's a relative of his giving this statement:

Kyron moved in full time with his dad, now 36, an engineer at Intel. With a demanding job at the company's Jones Farm campus in Hillsboro, where he works in the architecture group, Kaine needed child care. So, Desiree's friend Terri moved in to help.

"Someone had to watch the baby," said Amanda Howards, the former wife of Kaine's brother Kristian. "Terri was her friend. She moved in just to help with the baby."

[DairyGirl]

Originally Posted by Donjeta

TH and KH together, maybe? After all, a woman can't break up a man's marriage unless he's willing. They waited until a press conference in which Kaine was not present to make a point of this not being true. Perhaps to avoid embarrassing him? It looks like it's a relative of his giving this statement:

Maybe that was the story they told the family and friends, that Terri was a friend of Desiree's helping with the baby but it is not the truth from what Desiree said tonight. It seems clear that they have been together since before the baby was born and Terri's moving in may have been to help with Kyron but it wasn't because she was doing Desiree any favors. Why lie unless the truth makes them look bad.

[stmarysmead]

Originally Posted by Donjeta

TH and KH together, maybe? After all, a woman can't break up a man's marriage unless he's willing. They waited until a press conference in which Kaine was not present to make a point of this not being true. Perhaps to avoid embarrassing him? It looks like it's a relative of his giving this statement:

Why would a former wife, no longer in Kaine's family, give out this version of events?

I can only think because that's what Kaine led the family to believe. Maybe when the girlfriend moved in, Kaine said she was only there "to help with the Baby"..."She's Desiree's friend."

The only reason to do this is to save face...to hide an affair. Maybe an affair that was the cause of the original break-up of the marriage.

Maybe his family has believed this sanitized version for years. He may still be protecting an old lie, an old cover story. That might be , as someone suggested above, the reason he has an aversion to the media that is "digging" in the past.

This fits with the theory that Terri may have known Kyron since he was 3 days old...because she was close to Dad not Mom.

Are his parents alive?

[Donjeta]

That's what I've thought from the start, that it might be that some people were given just parts of the story. Terri's mom seems to have had it about right and even Terri's friend JF knew that she had been in Kyron's life since he was three days old, but some other relative might be under a false impression, particularly if they haven't been very close. There are some families who might not take affairs in their stride and people might want to leave out the details. It might also explain why they didn't answer these seemingly harmless questions about the family history themselves but the reporters had to get the scoop from a brother's ex.

It would make sense if it was a case of old untruths surfacing because it is much harder to imagine anybody calling the exes of their relatives after a child goes missing and saying, look, I don't want the truth about our affair coming out, could you talk to these reporters and tell them a BS sob story about how it was all strictly charity when we met.

I can't think of a relative that I would dare to ask to lie to reporters for me but I have a few to whom I could imagine telling a white lie or a half-truth. Who wouldn't just laugh and say, look, if I say that then Desiree will just correct it in the next edition. But if they were sharing this story years ago of course they never imagined that the papers would one day be interested.