OH - Fnd Dec'd Herrman, Maynard, Sprang 11.10.2010 - 13 year old rescued #7

[antiquegirl]

Originally Posted by Cazzie

Great post, but I disagree that "lights on" meant that MH was in the house. Lots of people leave lights on when they're not home (or forget to turn them off).
(RSBM) (snip)

Thanks, but I think you misunderstood what I wrote. I didn't mean that MH was necessarily in the house the whole time - only that someone turned those lights on on Wednesday after it had gotten dark and this is why I think it was MH:

• When the kids returned from school at around 3:45 - 4:00 pm, it was still light out.
• Since Sarah said she never saw SS that day, I have to assume that either SS was already deceased somewhere in the house, or that she hadn't arrived yet.
• Sunset that night was at 5:18 pm.
• SS should have arrived at the house long before then.
• But Sarah said she never saw her.

So, I have to conclude that by the time it was dark enough to turn on the lights (5:18 pm), Sarah was already locked up elsewhere in the house and the others already deceased.
Therefore, it had to have been MH who turned on the lights to finish the horrible deed.
He could have left the house anytime after dark, but left the lights on.

If there are any flaws in this theory, please point them out. I'm just trying to make sense of this.

JMO

[belimom]

Originally Posted by snapdragon

http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/state/s...ing-was-wrong-

The DQ mgr. is a hero. I can only thank God she didn't climb in that window on WED nite when she first drove by... I believe MH may have still been there at that time, and the mgr. could have become his 5th victim.

I totally agree. Hadn't thought of that.

[Leila]

Originally Posted by Java

Snapdragon -
That's what gets to me even more than the tree, if that's not horriffic enough, is the tub filling draining and refilling, and hearing the saw.

I do not even have words to express how terrible I feel for this poor child. It makes me sick to my stomach, it hurts to type it.

I feel so sorry for Sarah..............I'm sure she's been terribly traumatized.

[Cazzie]

Originally Posted by darlin gal

Knox Count Mourns video on the left scroll
http://www.10tv.com/live/content/video/10tv.html

The families were told when the bodies were found, they were NOT intact.


He did dismember them! The monster!

Your link gave me the local weather report, LOL.

Sorry to LOL but I'm in a state of horror and trying to get to the facts (which MSM has not been very much of a help).

[Tikki]

Originally Posted by Sooner Fan

Prostrate for sure, possibly colon and pancreas and it agressive

(((Sooner)))

Seems like everyone in my family dies of cancer. Fiance too.

I was diagnosed by a PET scan 4 yrs ago of extensive aggressive lymphoma, then the biopsy said no; was either a misdiagnosis or a miracle. They happen.

[darlin gal]

Originally Posted by Cazzie

Your link gave me the local weather report, LOL.

Sorry to LOL but I'm in a state of horror and trying to get to the facts (which MSM has not been very much of a help).

It's the Knox County Mourns video link on the left of video choices.

Here is the direct link where it mentions that the family was told their remains were NOT intact.


http://www.10tv.com/live/content/vid...co--mourns.xml

[antiquegirl]

Originally Posted by darlin gal

Knox Count Mourns video on the left scroll
http://www.10tv.com/live/content/video/10tv.html

The families were told when the bodies were found, they were NOT intact.


He did dismember them! The monster!

OMG! I was so hoping this would turn out to be another unfounded rumour. This is horrible news! We can only hope that Sarah wasn't fully aware of what was going on. It's possible he did this after he removed her from the house, or that she was so traumatized that she couldn't make sense of any noises she may have heard. Of course, now she will know, unfortunately.

(Sorry to include this personal note, but has anyone else been having a problem opening some of the links posted today? I have to c & p most of them because just clicking doesn't work. Is it just me? TIA)

R.I.P.
Kody, Tina, & Stephanie

[Cazzie]

Originally Posted by antiquegirl

Thanks, but I think you misunderstood what I wrote. I didn't mean that MH was necessarily in the house the whole time - only that someone turned those lights on on Wednesday after it had gotten dark and this is why I think it was MH:

• When the kids returned from school at around 3:45 - 4:00 pm, it was still light out.
• Since Sarah said she never saw SS that day, I have to assume that either SS was already deceased somewhere in the house, or that she hadn't arrived yet.
• Sunset that night was at 5:18 pm.
• SS should have arrived at the house long before then.
• But Sarah said she never saw her.

So, I have to conclude that by the time it was dark enough to turn on the lights (5:18 pm), Sarah was already locked up elsewhere in the house and the others already deceased.
Therefore, it had to have been MH who turned on the lights to finish the horrible deed.
He could have left the house anytime after dark, but left the lights on.

If there are any flaws in this theory, please point them out. I'm just trying to make sense of this.

JMO

I concur. I thought you jumped to a conclusion.

There is no sense to this. It should not have happened, period.

At the moment, I am in the anger phase.

Struggling with spirituality and morality and compassion, even for the one who did it.

[Tikki]

Originally Posted by darlin gal

Knox Count Mourns video on the left scroll
http://www.10tv.com/live/content/video/10tv.html

The families were told when the bodies were found, they were NOT intact.


He did dismember them! The monster!

This horrifies me, but does not surprise me.

I think this is the main reason for the plastic bags. Easier to make smaller ... ugh ... trips? grasping for words here...

[Deplume]

When I saw this video I knew he had to have dismembered.

YouTube

YouTube

[Cazzie]

Originally Posted by Deplume

When I saw this video I knew he had to have dismembered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuvPDqcu7W8

Who filmed it (and in what authority)?

[Leila]

Originally Posted by Lera213

If this woman didn't enter that house, no telling what that monster would have done to Sarah with just another day or so of time.

It's scary to think of what would have happened if it wasn't for Valerie's concern, going to Tina's, entering the house and seeing blood, and calling LE. Just a day or two could have made a difference in life or death for Sarah.

[Leila]

Originally Posted by Texas Mist

this video at this link has good shots of the tree - also gives a good sense of how far off the beaten path this tree was

http://www.10tv.com/live/content/loc...e.html?sid=102

Thanks! I looked at the video after I asked if there were pictures of the tree. I agree............that was a long way off the beaten path. I'm more convinced than ever that he had to have pre-planned this and know exactly where he was going to put the three bodies.

[CKay]

Originally Posted by darlin gal

Knox Count Mourns video on the left scroll
http://www.10tv.com/live/content/video/10tv.html

The families were told when the bodies were found, they were NOT intact.


He did dismember them! The monster!

I'm shaking with anger and disgust.

[sreshowtime]

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't I read somewhere that the DQ manager called in for a welfare check when TH failed to show up to work? And the police went by once, noticed nothing amiss & no one came to the door...then they went back by later, maybe around 11 pm? IF so, why did they not try to enter the house then when getting no response?
Shouldn't they have put, uhhh, a little more effort into checking on the family then??
That bothers me so much....

[Salem]

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OH - Fnd Dec'd Herrman, Maynard, Sprang 11.10.2010 - 13 year old rescued #8 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

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Salem