TX - Jonathan Foster, 12, Houston, 24 Dec 2010 - Mona Nelson charged with Murder - #8 - Page 11

mysticrose · #**251** 12-31-2010, 09:37 AM

Does anybody else remember reading an article that said somebody had tried to stuff the body into the culvert. That the body was partially in the culvert ?
I know I read that some where.....

peeples · #**252** 12-31-2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by twall

COD has not been released yet that I know of.

Your post made me think of the Shanda Sharer murder.

WARNING-very disturbing and sickening story.

The murder of Shanda Renee Sharer (June 6, 1979 – January 11, 1992) involved a 12-year-old girl who was tortured and burned to death in Madison, Indiana by four teenage girls. The incident attracted nationwide attention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Shanda_Sharer

I recall reading the archived newspaper articles on her case that have been posted online. Everything in those articles is accurate. No bungled media coverage there. My, my how things have changed.

WOW so a small pepsi bottle of gas IS enough to burn someone beyond recognition. I guess I thought a larger amt would be needed. Thanks for the link, Poor Shanda

peeples · #**253** 12-31-2010, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mysticrose

So I haven't seen anywhere yet that evidence seized is being tested , has anyone else...

PC yesterday they said the acetelyne torches are being tested

peeples · #**254** 12-31-2010, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mysticrose

Does anybody else remember reading an article that said somebody had tried to stuff the body into the culvert. That the body was partially in the culvert ?
I know I read that some where.....

Yes it was partially obscured in the culvert, i also read it was half way in it as well.
There was early speculation that mayabe rainfall has washed it partway in, but locals didn't think there has been enough rain

nervous_nellie · #**255** 12-31-2010, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Blondie in Spokane

Hi guys....I've been sick with the flu for the last 24 hours and I have missed so much of the last two threads. I am hopelessly lost and don't have the energy to attempt to catch up.

Could someone tell me who Quannel X is and how he/she fits into this awful story?

Is it true that bio mom and step dad had a relationship with Mona or has that info been uncovered yet?

Thanks everyone....time for more Nyquil!

ME TOO!! im so lost and there are so many threads that i cant even begin to catch up with! has a reason been reported that she did this to this poor child? why was she in his house? tia, im trying to catch up!!

mysticrose · #**256** 12-31-2010, 09:56 AM

Quite a bit of info here in this article regarding Mona's past:

Stone cold without a soul’
Suspect in boy’s death has had other run-ins with law, records show
HOUSTON CHRONICLE
Dec. 31, 2010, 7:59AM

When Houston police brought Mona Yvette Nelson in for questioning in the disappearance of 12-year-old Jonathan Foster, she seemed unfazed, even chatty, a veteran homicide investigator said.

She breezily signed consent forms allowing authorities to search her truck and home, Officer Mike Mil*ler said, and showed no emotion even when told she was being charged with capital murder in the slaying of Jonathan, who vanished from his northwest Houston home on Christmas Eve.

Miller has interviewed hundreds of suspects in 14 years on the homicide squad but said he saw something in Nelson's eyes that he's only seen once before — in the gaze of an accused serial killer.

It was a "dead look," the investigator said. "Anything but remorse … Stone cold without a soul."

Nelson declined an interview from a Harris County Jail cell Thursday, but police and people who know the woman - born Mona Preston on March 5, 1966 - described her as an adept plumber and welder, a boxer, an immigrant smuggler, a mother and grandmother.

Miller found her "a hard nut to crack," he said. "You just can't figure her out."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/7359495.html

jjenny · #**257** 12-31-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by impatientredhead

There are a few things I am confused about:

Multiple reports say Angela moved in with Sharon after her and David broke up over a slapping incident involving Jonathan?

But Jonathan is taken from Angela's apartment? Angela called the phone in her own apartment where Mona answered the phone?

Even though they were broke up due to violence between the very new stepfather, he was over there unsupervised? where he supposedly doesn't live? (I know he his cleared, just trying to figure out a couple of logistics, no allegations of involvement intended)...

No, I believe he was kidnapped from the apartment Angela moved to, not from the one she used to live.

impatientredhead · #**258** 12-31-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jjenny

No, I believe he was kidnapped from the apartment Angela moved to, not from the one she used to live.

So he as taken from Sharon's?
Angela called Sharon?
And Mona was in Sharon's place where she found and took Jonathan?

belimom · #**259** 12-31-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Curious Me

It is so strange to go through the trouble to burn the body that badly, beyond recognition, and yet leave the body in an open ditch where it could be found quickly. ...(snipped)...

Being a plumber/maintenance person (according to LE), then she knew that the body would clog up the drain, or be noticed by routine maintenance or just someone mowing the grass. She knew.

My other thought is: it was just getting dark if sunset was around 5:30pm. You probably couldn't spot that culvert in the dark without knowing it was there. She knew it was there and put it there purposefully, rather than just stumbling upon it while driving around. This is all JMHO...

peeples · #**260** 12-31-2010, 10:17 AM

Roommate wasn't home. It is currently believed Mona made the phone calls to Angela. Yes mona was in roommates place when she took Jonathan. Supposedly she came asked for a phone number then stap dad checked on him then mona came back and took him. It's a VERY tight timeline.

belimom · #**261** 12-31-2010, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Openmind

Thinking over that phone call to Jonathan's mom, the person asked Jonathan if his mother's name was Angela. Hardly fits with doing drugs for weeks together as Quannel claimed.

Did she ask if his mother's name was Angela, or if Angela was his mother? I see those as two different questions. The first - sounds like she didn't know Angela at all. The second - sounds like she knew (of) Angela but wasn't sure if she was Jonathan's mother.

peeples · #**262** 12-31-2010, 10:26 AM

Ok for those wondering about a cordless phone reception, last night I took ours (we don't use it anymore but it's sitll hooked up LOL) I live in a neighborhood with regular square blocks. I could still just barely get reception on the back side of my block When i crossed the street on the block behind me, the phone cut out.

Now the phone from roommates house is missing, the tight timeline shows that Mom got someone on the phone as she was driving home from work it was the second call where she dialed out and got presumably mona on the phone and the whole Is your mom's name angela thing. It said within 5 minutes mom was home Jonathan was gone, so hypothetically Mona and Jonathan could have already been traveling or heck been hidden within a block of the complex and the phone would have still worked (becasue presumable the phone was with them since it's missing). Mine is an OLD phone too, from early 2000 if not 1999 or 1998. The new ones are waay better probably with better reach too.

Just thought I'd throw that out there as it was bugging me why the phone humg up...

sherbetjello · #**263** 12-31-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by belimom

Did she ask if his mother's name was Angela, or if Angela was his mother? I see those as two different questions. The first - sounds like she didn't know Angela at all. The second - sounds like she knew (of) Angela but wasn't sure if she was Jonathan's mother.

I think when Angela called she said "This is Angela, where is my boy?" and the person on the phone said "Is Angela your mama" and JF replied "Yes."

All this would lead me to assume that it was JF that placed the first emergency call to his mother (the one that AD coworker received.)

Just really hope, I pray, that Mona will talk and confess today. I don't think until she does we will ever be able to sort that phone call out.

gypsyblue · #**264** 12-31-2010, 10:27 AM

witnesses saw mona talking to Jonathan at 12:30 xmas eve. So he was where? Outside? and then what? Witnesses and mona herself place mona at the scene at 12:30.

Did these witnesses see her between 1:45 and 2:00? witnesses saw her, but noone saw her lure him out of the house? or him leaving with her?

So she left in time for the SD well check at 1:45? came back and she then left with Jonathan in time for the mom well check at 2 something? She didnt know these people but knew what their times of arrival would be? Extremely calculated.

How was he taken? was he conscious? Did he walk out with her? was he secretly carried out?

belimom · #**265** 12-31-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by peeples

Roommate wasn't home. It is currently believed Mona made the phone calls to Angela. Yes mona was in roommates place when she took Jonathan. Supposedly she came asked for a phone number then stap dad checked on him then mona came back and took him. It's a VERY tight timeline.

BBM

Yes, indeed... I'm going out on a limb here with approximate times (and it will be hard to type...

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- 2:00: takes Jonathan
- 2:15: arrives at her house (how far was it?) and has to get him in (unseen?)
- 2:30-5:30: the approx time window for murdering, torching, loading up body into vehicle, cleaning up her own appearance (? - shower, change clothes)
- 5:30: leaves her home
- 6:00: dumps at culvert
- back to SE and AD's place

imamaze · #**266** 12-31-2010, 10:34 AM

Talking about the StepDad only in the context of what has been said by MN is allowed. Rumors of drugs etc. is not allowed.

The mother is a victim, she has been cleared by the police and she is off limits.

Please remember we are a victim friendly forum and we do have family here with us.

Thank you.

Ima

Peliman · #**267** 12-31-2010, 10:35 AM

Slaying Suspect Previously Charged With Injury To Child

Snips from the story

Nelson is from Mount Pleasant, Texas, in Titus County. Her name is well known in the town of about 20,000.

In 2001, Nelson was charged with three counts of injury to a child. All of the children were under the age of 14.

According to the police report, a woman named DM said that Nelson broke into her home through a window by breaking it with beer bottles.

The charges that resulted from the incident were burglary of a habitation, three counts of injury to a child and assault.

The police report showed that the children suffered injuries including a fractured foot, head trauma and a contusion on an elbow. The children were taken to a hospital by ambulance.

more at link

http://www.click2houston.com/news/26326459/detail.html

sherbetjello · #**268** 12-31-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by belimom

BBM

Yes, indeed... I'm going out on a limb here with approximate times (and it will be hard to type...

):

- 2:00: takes Jonathan
- 2:15: arrives at her house (how far was it?) and has to get him in (unseen?)
- 2:30-5:30: the approx time window for murdering, torching, loading up body into vehicle, cleaning up her own appearance (? - shower, change clothes)
- 5:30: leaves her home
- 6:00: dumps at culvert
- back to SE and AD's place

MN house was 7 miles away, iirc. She was 4 miles from where JF's body was found.

Depending on her size, the truck itself and how often those roads are traveled I couldn't even speculate how she transported him. MN could of had tinted windows, and trucks sit high making it somewhat impossible to see who it was in the truck.

My heart breaks thinking that this child was forced into her car by her using intimidation. That is one of the scariest feelings in the world.

gypsyblue · #**269** 12-31-2010, 10:36 AM

tho not accusing... just entirely confused as to possible motive...

how did DD have a tight alibi if his alibi would have been Jonathan around the time of the crime?

I would really like to know this....

belimom · #**270** 12-31-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sherbetjello

I think when Angela called she said "This is Angela, where is my boy?" and the person on the phone said "Is Angela your mama" and JF replied "Yes."

All this would lead me to assume that it was JF that placed the first emergency call to his mother (the one that AD coworker received.)

Just really hope, I pray, that Mona will talk and confess today. I don't think until she does we will ever be able to sort that phone call out.

BBM

Yes, I believe that, too. Without knowing exactly who made the calls, my speculation is that JF called AD, AD called back. I first thought was that maybe JF grabbed the phone when it rang (hence the answer to why the phone was answered to begin with) and that MN yanked it away. But now I'm thinking that MN answered it herself. A combination of just not thinking and her own impulsivity, with judgment probably being clouded by the rage or whatever.

jnTexas · #**271** 12-31-2010, 10:39 AM

Why am I not surprised Quannel X is in the middle of this. Ugh!!

jjenny · #**272** 12-31-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gypsyblue

tho not accusing... just entirely confused as to possible motive...

how did DD have a tight alibi if his alibi would have been Jonathan around the time of the crime?

I would really like to know this....

Well, just speculating, he could have gone to the store right after he saw Jonathan, so he could be on video buying something, etc.

peeples · #**273** 12-31-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gypsyblue

tho not accusing... just entirely confused as to possible motive...

how did DD have a tight alibi if his alibi would have been Jonathan around the time of the crime?

I would really like to know this....

Neighbors maybe, they were able to say when mona was there. I know at the apt. complex we lived in when we were younger people were NOSY, of course it's iowa too!

LandAuxvasse · #**274** 12-31-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sherbetjello

MN house was 7 miles away, iirc. She was 4 miles from where JF's body was found.

Depending on her size, the truck itself and how often those roads are traveled I couldn't even speculate how she transported him. MN could of had tinted windows, and trucks sit high making it somewhat impossible to see who it was in the truck.

THEORY/SPECULATION:

Could Mona have provided the "container/trash can" to remove him from his home? Perhaps she had it out back from her previous visit and then she went in, tied him up, put him in the container and then put the container in her truck as a maintenance person might do?

JF was on the first call TO his mom, but not on the last call FROM his mom. Maybe he was already tied up at that point?

sherbetjello · #**275** 12-31-2010, 10:42 AM

I too believe a neighbor saw him/DD. Seems that we have more neighbor witness statements than we ever thought. If ppl saw Mona there, they surely saw SD/DD go back to his apartment.

I have visited Texas quite a few times, I know how much people love their backyards/patios - especially if the weather is right.

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Originally Posted by LandAuxvasse

THEORY/SPECULATION:

JF was on the first call TO his mom, but not on the last call FROM his mom. Maybe he was already tied up at that point?

I have questioned why his hands were bound, tbh. Your theory applies to this.

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Originally Posted by jnTexas

Why am I not surprised Quannel X is in the middle of this. Ugh!!

At first, I was really, really angry with his interview. BUT, I have actually told myself "Not going to be mad, I am going to hope that he is able to see the evidence in front of him, in front of her, and gets her to confess." It's all I can do at this point.