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02-26-2011, 10:32 PM
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All of these odd-and-seemingly-not-heavily-concerned attitudes towards the finding of child porn and such makes me wish that this was just a case of this baby girl running away to find a safe environment away from the hell that was her life. I wouldn't blame her if she did...
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I said the same thing only a few bombshells back.
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02-26-2011, 10:37 PM
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Sadly what connects all these puzzles is that there's a victim@the heart of each
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I think he's not outraged because LE had already alerted him. IMO he sounds like he has had a bit of time to mull it over.
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ITA Ada.. Not only do I believe that he got a heads up on this while he did his little stint for an old expired license charge a week or so ago..but I also believe they had a long talk with him about how to handle Billie..I think that in the last 3 weeks they've somewhat "coached" him on how to handle the Billie situation..Everyone saw where things were quickly coming to a head with regard to Clint's being fed up with Billie's continuing to sit on her couch{her "new" couches}enjoying her television programs just a little bit too comfortably for Clint's liking..as he expressed in the BTH interview..along with it becoming too obvious to deny any longer that BD's behaviors/actions did not equal that of a grieving mom whose 13 yr old daughter is God knows where..and all of these things combined Clint IMO would have quickly proceeded into a full fledged war with Billie and him having drawn the line in the sand..As we saw this was doing no good and have quite possibly grown into a worse predicament than CCity was already in.. So I think they've had Clint play the strategy of "keep your enemies closer"..and play up to Billie..more on her side.. IMO LE has been wanting and playing the strategy to give BD as much rope as she desires hoping that eventually it will lead to her hanging herself with it.. This has also been done by NOT NAMING HER HER AS THE OTHER POI/SUSPECT IMO.. I think they wanted to use a polar opposite strategy on each of them{BD/SA} seeing which one would "roll" on the other...
Would it be the one that was "publicly" named the POI/Suspect..who the pressure just got to him and he cracked..or would it be the one that got so arrogantly full of themselves being full well led to believe that LE has bought their BS hook.line..and sinker..and in feeling so arrogant and "unsuspected" would that person screw up in a couple different ways such as would they feel they weren't being surveilled 24/7 and make such a bold move as to attempt to move the body or further dispose of it..or would they so arrogantly begin to let things slide here and there allowing LE to pick up each bread crumb as it slipped out and follow it to find Hailey...
IMO thats what we have been seeing..or atleast I believe that was LE intention on how to treat and handle these two with polar opposite strategies all for the same outcome as their goal..To Find and bring Hailey home..{no matter what they may mean..}alive or if even to bring her home to be laid to rest with dignity as Clint and family see fit..jmo..tho.
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02-26-2011, 10:38 PM
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But if Clint knew this was coming, why on earth would he have said two days ago, that he thinks SA is innocent? That was another WTF moment...I'm not getting anything he is saying lately.
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02-26-2011, 10:40 PM
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But if Clint knew this was coming, why on earth would he have said two days ago, that he thinks SA is innocent? That was another WTF moment...I'm not getting anything he is saying lately.
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And agree to attend the rally with her, and launch the website with her...?
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02-26-2011, 11:37 PM
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Well, what I'm looking for is what I posted - what statements of Clint's implied "oh it's just child porn".
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The whole tone of the statement given to the media was, to me, blase. I was very surprised with it, considering how heart-on-the sleeve he's been since he started speaking out. I didn't say he implied it; I was giving my interpretation of the statement as a whole. You don't need to agree with my interpretation.
"We understand its a hot topic." A hot topic? The royal wedding is a hot topic; porn found in your ex-wife's dresser while your daughter is missing is a bit more than a hot topic. That is what I mean.
I appreciate that he wants to hear from LE, but, like I said, the whole statement is just so chill, it's disconcerting. At the very least, it could have contained a statement that said they appreciate the illegality of it, and how child porn is abusive and he hopes LE gets to the bottom of it, because no child deserves to be treated in such an appaling way. Something!
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02-27-2011, 12:21 AM
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I think CD knows alot about BD. Remember he was with her quite a while and BD didn't just wake up one day after the separation from CD and like to watch porn and do drugs he knows how she is. I believe he loves his kids and thought he was a good dad and I am sure in alot of ways he was. But he liked to partake a little himself and really is not a pillar of the community. What I don't understand is why he has not confronted SA and BD and demanded some answers because I would be dogging both of them daily about where my daughter was, in fact every hour of every day.... IMO
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02-27-2011, 12:46 AM
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The whole tone of the statement given to the media was, to me, blase. I was very surprised with it, considering how heart-on-the sleeve he's been since he started speaking out. I didn't say he implied it; I was giving my interpretation of the statement as a whole. You don't need to agree with my interpretation.
"We understand its a hot topic." A hot topic? The royal wedding is a hot topic; porn found in your ex-wife's dresser while your daughter is missing is a bit more than a hot topic. That is what I mean.
I appreciate that he wants to hear from LE, but, like I said, the whole statement is just so chill, it's disconcerting. At the very least, it could have contained a statement that said they appreciate the illegality of it, and how child porn is abusive and he hopes LE gets to the bottom of it, because no child deserves to be treated in such an appaling way. Something!
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I do understand having an expectation that Clint would have said more specific things.
I completely disagree, however, that there was anything whatsoever about his statement that implied an "oh it's just child porn" attitude.
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02-27-2011, 12:57 AM
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I think Clint is a little (or a lot) numbed by this whole situation. He felt he had to respond to this latest horror and did the best he could. He's not a public person or a public speaker.
I think he is doing the best he can, that anyone can in all of this, and at his worst, he is doing far more than Billie.
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02-27-2011, 02:10 AM
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His response was for the media. We have no idea how he responded when he first heard about it. For all we know, he punched a few holes in his walls.
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02-27-2011, 02:32 AM
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What a Kerfuffle...
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I think he's not outraged because LE had already alerted him. IMO he sounds like he has had a bit of time to mull it over.
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Possible....
Or perhaps he hadn't slept in days.
Or perhaps he was in complete shock.
Or perhaps he had to be sedated by a doctor.
Or perhaps he hadn't slept in days, was in complete shock and had to be sedated by a doctor.
Or perhaps he doesn't want to leave Naomi, I*** and baby C*** on their own because he seriously injured or killed someone. Yet he knows that if he allows that anger to come up, he will explode.
Or perhaps he is using justification to keep himself calm, such as "17 year old's who pretended to be 18 would be child porn, maybe that's all it is. Maybe it isn't actually little kids. They said it wasn't Hailey. Maybe it isn't really that bad..." Denial is powerful...
Or perhaps he has been told by LE how to react (since he went from "Bille is sitting on her couch while Naomi and I search" to working directly with Billie.)
Or perhaps he has been told by LE that if he shows anger about this, it could jeopardize the investigation. Possibly causing SA and/or BD to take off out of fear for their safety.
Or several other possibilities....
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02-27-2011, 06:22 AM
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Possible....
Or perhaps he hadn't slept in days.
Or perhaps he was in complete shock.
Or perhaps he had to be sedated by a doctor.
Or perhaps he hadn't slept in days, was in complete shock and had to be sedated by a doctor.
Or perhaps he doesn't want to leave Naomi, I*** and baby C*** on their own because he seriously injured or killed someone. Yet he knows that if he allows that anger to come up, he will explode.
Or perhaps he is using justification to keep himself calm, such as "17 year old's who pretended to be 18 would be child porn, maybe that's all it is. Maybe it isn't actually little kids. They said it wasn't Hailey. Maybe it isn't really that bad..." Denial is powerful...
Or perhaps he has been told by LE how to react (since he went from "Bille is sitting on her couch while Naomi and I search" to working directly with Billie.)
Or perhaps he has been told by LE that if he shows anger about this, it could jeopardize the investigation. Possibly causing SA and/or BD to take off out of fear for their safety.
Or several other possibilities....
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Above BBM..as I said in my post upthread this is what I am leaning toward as being why we have seen such the sudden turn around..
yet a question like this is asked..completely missing the entire pom99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999mif LE told him or gave him a heads up then why in the world would he make the statement that he thought SA was innocent..
because this is what LE is thinking will better serve the case..Him being angry going off about her sitting on the couch not searching and stating he was suspicious of Shawn..well we all saw that got us no where..only got Billie more in a tizzy but no closer to finding out any info to find Hailey.. So LE or maybe Clint{and whomever he discusses and talks things over about what to do next to help find Hailey}..maybe they decided that they would see if a different strategy would get them any closer to finding Hailey..by siding with Billie..letting her and SA believe that Clint has bought their BS and they're much more likely to let their guard down..
So that is why Clint made the statement about SA may be innocent..along with an extremely carefully worded statement put out{and if anyone truly believes that was Clint's words in that released statement.:eye roll:}..That was a bs statement with nothing accusatory in it..therefor they appeased the public/media who wanted a statement as well as continued to keep Billie settled in..not ruffling her feathers and hoping that in her letting her guard down that maybe just maybe that can help them learn info that will lead to Hailey..
No matter who..be it LE or Clint and someone he strategizes with about this case.. and they saw that one way wasn't working..so why not attempt a different strategy hoping for better results..
Therefor IMO we've not even begun to hear what Is Clint's true feelings about this latest news because for the sake of Hailey at the moment he is attempting to regain some of Bille's trust in hopes that will benefit in finding Hailey..
I mean think about it and wht CDs reaction was to those affidavits..he did not sleep for days and it nearly broke him down..child porn..I guarantee one day we'll hear how he really feels about the child porn..but for now he's attempting a different way to get info to find Hailey..
In knowing that everything else that so many keep questioning just here in this thread..all of it makes sense..makes perfect sense..if what I described above is part of Clint's present agenda..
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But if Clint knew this was coming, why on earth would he have said two days ago, that he thinks SA is innocent? That was another WTF moment...I'm not getting anything he is saying lately.
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I don't think Clint knew in advance as I don't believe LE is giving out clues here and there to anyone close to the case. I also don't see Clint showing much anger over anything. Being angry, yes. But showing it, no. He seems about as laid back as they come. MOO
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Hailey Dunn's Father: 'I'm The Voice For My Daughter'
By Merlin Mann, KTXS News
Hailey Dunn, a 13-year-old eighth-grader, hasn't been seen since Dec. 27, and Clint Dunn misses her.
“I just miss it all,” he said. “I miss her face. There’s no one particular thing; I miss her companionship.”
The ordeal, he said, has also made him stronger, and he has reason to be strong – for his daughter.
“I realize I’m the voice for my daughter,” he said.
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My heart goes out to Clint. Prayers for Hailey.
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I am bothered and confused about Clint.  I wonder if he knew this was coming out when he changed his mind about SA and now thinks he is innocent. SA was on his radar from the get go per Clint in interviews. He needs to take a stand against this. I pray he isnt involved in this stuff too.
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