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Old 07-30-2011, 07:29 PM
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Bloomington Police search for missing 20 year old woman
Lauren Spierer, age 20.
She is a white female, 4 feet 11 inches tall, slender build, has blue eyes and long blonde hair. She is listed as a student according to IU Bloomington's website.
Spierer was last seen walking south on College Avenue from 11th Street on her way back to her apartment in Smallwood Plaza, located on College Avenue.
She did not arrive to her apartment and video footage does not show her entering the apartment complex.
Spierer was wearing a white tank top with a loose, light colored button shirt over it and full length black stretch pants. She was not wearing shoes.


Who's Who in the Lauren Spierer Case, Updated 06-30-11 (by the Herald Times Online)

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http://www.lohud.com/article/20110615/NEWS02/106150373

Re: the photo released Wednesday, 06-15-2011, of Lauren leaving Smallwood Apartments the evening of June 2, 2011.

http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.aspx?id=81929



http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-laure...,1261306.story
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Old 07-30-2011, 07:38 PM
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todays ride for lauren:

http://www.wthr.com/story/15179228/ride-for-lauren

BLOOMINGTON - Nearly two months after their daughter disappeared, the parents of Indiana University student Lauren Spierer finds a new way to drum up leads.

Robert and Charlene Spierer attended a motorcycle ride for their daughter Saturday. While the missing student's case is getting a lot of support, it's getting few answers.

For motorcycle enthusiasts, a picture-perfect Saturday is enough motivation, but this weekend it is a different picture that is their reason to ride.

About 200 motorcyclists met at the Bloomington Harley Davidson the starting point for a 50-mile trek through southern Indiana. This is no joy ride but rather, a mission, to remind locals that two months later the case remains unsolved.


watch the video of the spierers <3 so strong
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Old 07-30-2011, 07:45 PM
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Greetings to our new members, Jedger, Hodge, GobBluth, and Elmore James (Elmore James? Nice. ). Hope I didn't miss anyone.



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todays ride for lauren:

http://www.wthr.com/story/15179228/ride-for-lauren

BLOOMINGTON - Nearly two months after their daughter disappeared, the parents of Indiana University student Lauren Spierer finds a new way to drum up leads.

Robert and Charlene Spierer attended a motorcycle ride for their daughter Saturday. While the missing student's case is getting a lot of support, it's getting few answers.

For motorcycle enthusiasts, a picture-perfect Saturday is enough motivation, but this weekend it is a different picture that is their reason to ride.

About 200 motorcyclists met at the Bloomington Harley Davidson the starting point for a 50-mile trek through southern Indiana. This is no joy ride but rather, a mission, to remind locals that two months later the case remains unsolved.


watch the video of the spierers <3 so strong
Thanks for posting this. When I watched earlier (early afternoon) there was also a video interview with Lauren's uncle David who rode. I was there today. Met and talked with her parents a bit and a few others. Very little case talk. Everyone was chill. Have a few new thoughts that I'll have to sleep on tonight.
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Elmomom, in the previous thread you asked what JW was doing at 8:05. I would expect him to be looking for LS. But then I have a problem believing that he went to bed at 2:30 a.m. and was up by 8 a.m.
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Someone asked whether flyers were still up. FYI there are also billboards in Indianapolis and Bloomington. They have been up for a while. The ad company has donated the space.

http://www.examiner.com/news-analysi...slide=35741841
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http://www.wthr.com/video?clipId=6103416&autostart=true

This is interesting because he talks about the importance of getting information from the friends and family of the POI. This came up for the first time (that I'm aware of) here on WS recently. To me it's indicative of yet another stage in the case, secondary investigative or something like that.
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http://www.wthr.com/video?clipId=6103416&autostart=true

This is interesting because he talks about the importance of getting information from the friends and family of the POI. This came up for the first time (that I'm aware of) here on WS recently. To me it's indicative of yet another stage in the case, secondary investigative or something like that.
off topic but what an awful interview - the poor guy, it makes him look silly when he listens to the questions without us being able to hear what is being asked... and someone should have told him to lose the sunglasses!

In any case, he makes a good spokesperson (regardless of the poor video that they used).
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Thanks for posting this. When I watched earlier (early afternoon) there was also a video interview with Lauren's uncle David who rode. I was there today. Met and talked with her parents a bit and a few others. Very little case talk. Everyone was chill. Have a few new thoughts that I'll have to sleep on tonight.
No, No, Jupiter......
Don't sleep on it, pleeeease!! Tell us what you're thinking!! LOL
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http://www.wthr.com/video?clipId=6103416&autostart=true

This is interesting because he talks about the importance of getting information from the friends and family of the POI. This came up for the first time (that I'm aware of) here on WS recently. To me it's indicative of yet another stage in the case, secondary investigative or something like that.
Also, in many cases f/f of of the POIs may be less guarded - and wouldn't likely have an attorney...

Someone also mentioned the number 10 regarding POIs. LE has stated many times that the number 10 is fluid -- and has been all along. To try to come up with the list of 10 is a relatively worthless exercise IMO
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off topic but what an awful interview - the poor guy, it makes him look silly when he listens to the questions without us being able to hear what is being asked... and someone should have told him to lose the sunglasses!

In any case, he makes a good spokesperson (regardless of the poor video that they used).
agreed... why would they use that kind of an interview??
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No, No, Jupiter......
Don't sleep on it, pleeeease!! Tell us what you're thinking!! LOL

Sleep Later!!! Share now!!
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no no no! if I want to get some sleep tonite I don't want to hear until tomorrow. But Jupiter you better have your theories ready by the early AM!!!
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that means I have to get up early!! no fair...
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Jedger, thanks for the welcome! And yes, I do think JR's visitor is an accomplice. I'm going the Occam's Razor route: LS od'd, JR and visitor put her in a sleeping bag, then threw her away, either in the dumpster, or on the way back to Michigan.
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Thanks for posting this. When I watched earlier (early afternoon) there was also a video interview with Lauren's uncle David who rode. I was there today. Met and talked with her parents a bit and a few others. Very little case talk. Everyone was chill. Have a few new thoughts that I'll have to sleep on tonight.
So cool that you went!! Can't wait to hear what you're thinking...no pressure but we are all waiting anxiously here, lol.
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I'm going the Occam's Razor route: LS od'd, JR and visitor put her in a sleeping bag, then threw her away, either in the dumpster, or on the way back to Michigan.
That doesn't seem especially simple to me.
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I really wanted to sleep on this but I think we need to look at Brown County as a location. This is where most of the ride was today. It's east of Bloomington: hills, valleys, river, woods, lakes (several private) very scenic and part is touristy but also part is very rural and rough. Used to be a popular place for DDs to live. I don't know if they still do. I'm sure some do. Two state roads go to Nashville, IN: SR 45 and 46.

Need to know if POI f/f have cabins there or AEPi hazing activity in the past too. Any known DD residences? Etc.

[Tired tonight...]
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I'm not a good one to ask... I don't think I KNOW any DDs... I lead a very sheltered life these days...
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P.S. Those are some pretty cute emoticons ^ ^ Hard to resist.
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P.S. Those are some pretty cute emoticons ^ ^ Hard to resist.
We do what we can... flirting is an art, you know??
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That doesn't seem especially simple to me.
Occam's Razor doesn't really mean the simplest explanation, I think this popular misconception is derived from the movie, "A Beautiful Mind". Here is the true definition, from Wikipedia: "Occam's razor (or Ockham's razor)[1] often expressed in Latin as the lex parsimoniae, translating to law of parsimony, law of economy or law of succinctness, is a principle that generally recommends, when faced with competing hypothesis that are equal in other respects, selecting the one that makes the fewest new assumptions."

And what does "DD" mean? "dumb druggie"? "darling daughter"? "dungeons and dragons"?
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in MOST website cases, DD is darling daughter.... but in this case it's drug dealer...
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Occam's Razor doesn't really mean the simplest explanation, I think this popular misconception is derived from the movie, "A Beautiful Mind". Here is the true definition, from Wikipedia: "Occam's razor (or Ockham's razor)[1] often expressed in Latin as the lex parsimoniae, translating to law of parsimony, law of economy or law of succinctness, is a principle that generally recommends, when faced with competing hypothesis that are equal in other respects, selecting the one that makes the fewest new assumptions."

And what does "DD" mean? "dumb druggie"? "darling daughter"? "dungeons and dragons"?
bold mine, drug dealer
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Jedger, thanks for the welcome! And yes, I do think JR's visitor is an accomplice. I'm going the Occam's Razor route: LS od'd, JR and visitor put her in a sleeping bag, then threw her away, either in the dumpster, or on the way back to Michigan.
I'm with you. I feel strongly that visitor plays a role. Why do you say sleeping bag though? I have seen sleeping bag mentioned before but I'm not sure where that idea comes from, can someone explain? I have some memory that in an earlier thread someone asked if any of the POIs was missing a sleeping bag but not sure what info led to that question. I have always thought suitcase or possibly cooler- she was so tiny she would fit- and these are items that would not only conceal a person her size, but would also not raise eyebrows when taken to a car to leave. And many suitcases and larger coolers have wheels, so the weight in the bag/cooler wouldn't be obvious to an unknowing observer.
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