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Haleigh Cummings Missing from Satsuma, FL since Feb. 9, 2009. Haleigh was born August 17, 2003. She has blonde hair and brown eyes, her ears are pierced and she has a lazy left eye due to Turner Syndrome.


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Old 03-30-2012, 01:46 PM
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The deal was for the DRUG crime he was in court about.
Not HaLeigh's case. IMO
The drug crime arrest and prosecution is a tool to get to the truth of what happened to Haleigh. All legal and above board. They needed him confined to go to work on Haleigh's case with any diligence that might actually solve the case.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:07 PM
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The drug crime arrest and prosecution is a tool to get to the truth of what happened to Haleigh. All legal and above board. They needed him confined to go to work on Haleigh's case with any diligence that might actually solve the case.
I agree. The Croslins' arrest.
Ron got his own hind end in prison for tagging along with Misty on a drug deal.
He is where he belongs, with the rest of them, but for drugs... not HaLeigh.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:33 PM
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I didn't get an impression from the undercover videos that he was just tagging along, but that's just MOO.

No one is in prison for Haleigh. *sigh*
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I didn't get an impression from the undercover videos that he was just tagging along, but that's just MOO.

No one is in prison for Haleigh. *sigh*
Don't think there was any tagging along either. IMO, RC was the driving force behind the dealing. (I was going to say mastermind, but mastermind and Ronald Croslin do not belong in the same sentence)
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:44 PM
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By 'tagging along' I didn't mean there for the ride. It was obvious he was there dealing/selling.... so he was arrested also.
His arrest, unlike Misty and Tommy's, had nothing to do with HaLeigh was my point.
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:20 PM
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By 'tagging along' I didn't mean there for the ride. It was obvious he was there dealing/selling.... so he was arrested also.
His arrest, unlike Misty and Tommy's, had nothing to do with HaLeigh was my point.
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Now, Mkay, you must know that Ron said that LE said (or maybe it was Ron's attorney said Ron said LE said...) to Ron as he was thrown to the ground and being handcuffed that this was about Haleigh, which absolutely is much more credible and believable than LE stating on the record to the media that Ron was at work.

But yeah, I do know what you mean. IIRC, Misty was dealing with the UC first, Misty dealt last, and Misty dealt the most and got the most charges. Seems to me Misty was the main one they were after.
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Or she was just the patsy to take the fall if things went wrong.

I don't think RC has anything worthwhile to trade regarding Haleigh because he was either involved or knew nothing about what happened. Either way there is nothing he can give them that would improve his situation (if there was, he would have done it long ago).
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Ron was on those vidoes bragging and acting like "Mr Bigshot Drugdealer". LE had to arrest him. I don't think He was the target, but he just could not shut up. I think just going by whom got charged with what, Misty was the main target.
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Ron was on those vidoes bragging and acting like "Mr Bigshot Drugdealer". LE had to arrest him. I don't think He was the target, but he just could not shut up. I think just going by whom got charged with what, Misty was the main target.
Except RON said, that when the cops threw him on the ground, they said they are doing this to find HALIEGH. All the excuses that Ron was just accidentally caught and had to be charge are bs, they could have thrown Misty away for 25 on just the incident with Donna Brock. jmo
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Ron was on those vidoes bragging and acting like "Mr Bigshot Drugdealer". LE had to arrest him. I don't think He was the target, but he just could not shut up. I think just going by whom got charged with what, Misty was the main target.
It doesn't matter -- target or not. If he weren't selling drugs, he wouldn't have been arrested.
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Old 03-31-2012, 11:13 AM
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Now, Mkay, you must know that Ron said that LE said (or maybe it was Ron's attorney said Ron said LE said...) to Ron as he was thrown to the ground and being handcuffed that this was about Haleigh, which absolutely is much more credible and believable than LE stating on the record to the media that Ron was at work.

But yeah, I do know what you mean. IIRC, Misty was dealing with the UC first, Misty dealt last, and Misty dealt the most and got the most charges. Seems to me Misty was the main one they were after.
I've no doubt the drug bust was all about HaLeigh.
Misty and Tommy being arrested was the goal.
Not Ron. IMO

LE has cleared Ron.

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pb...0309/-1/NEWS11

"... On Aug. 17, to mark Haleigh's 6th birthday, the Putnam County Sheriff's Department released a statement that said the office has received more than 4,000 leads and conducted 138 formal interviews in the search for the little girl.

They have no specific person of interest yet, though they have cleared the biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield..."
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Except RON said, that when the cops threw him on the ground, they said they are doing this to find HALIEGH. All the excuses that Ron was just accidentally caught and had to be charge are bs, they could have thrown Misty away for 25 on just the incident with Donna Brock. jmo
That's exactly what I believe.

That Ron has his dumb azz piled up in the car was his fault.
LE wanted the Croslins' facing a ton of years in order to shake something HaLeigh related out of them.

IIRC the start of the sting (with phone calls) were to/for Misty. Not Ron.
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Old 03-31-2012, 05:57 PM
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I've no doubt the drug bust was all about HaLeigh.
Misty and Tommy being arrested was the goal.
Not Ron. IMO

LE has cleared Ron.

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pb...0309/-1/NEWS11

"... On Aug. 17, to mark Haleigh's 6th birthday, the Putnam County Sheriff's Department released a statement that said the office has received more than 4,000 leads and conducted 138 formal interviews in the search for the little girl.

They have no specific person of interest yet, though they have cleared the biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield..."

Someone in Massachusetts knows more about the situation in Florida -- don't think so.
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That's exactly what I believe.

That Ron has his dumb azz piled up in the car was his fault.
LE wanted the Croslins' facing a ton of years in order to shake something HaLeigh related out of them.

IIRC the start of the sting (with phone calls) were to/for Misty. Not Ron.
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Except we know for sure Ron was busted with date rape drugs and coke and stuff like that in the past, and he didnt have a missing child, just some paid officials in Annettes pocket. But curiously, the county that allegedly loves him and wants to keep their hometown son close to their hearts, decides they hate him so much they are throwing him in the clink for pills and he will never be out of jail as long as his kids, the ones he claims anyways, are minors. So what made them hate Ron<mod snip> all of a sudden? jmo

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I've no doubt the drug bust was all about HaLeigh.
Misty and Tommy being arrested was the goal.
Not Ron. IMO

LE has cleared Ron.

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pb...0309/-1/NEWS11

"... On Aug. 17, to mark Haleigh's 6th birthday, the Putnam County Sheriff's Department released a statement that said the office has received more than 4,000 leads and conducted 138 formal interviews in the search for the little girl.

They have no specific person of interest yet, though they have cleared the biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield..."
In August of 2009, Gary Bowling with the PCSO said that Ron "resisted questioning" and that they would like to interview him.

Does that sound like he was cleared to you?

LE released that statement claiming he was "cleared" to make Ron feel COMFORTABLE talking with them. LE does that all the time.

LE stated in the Michelle Parker case that the estranged ex Dayle Smith was NOT a suspect or person of interest and said he was cooperative and then changed it weeks later and named him an official suspect.

LE releases statements that may NOT be true to toy with people. That is obviously what happened here, since the PCSO came out last year and stated both Ron and Misty were not telling everything they know.
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In August of 2009, Gary Bowling with the PCSO said that Ron "resisted questioning" and that they would like to interview him.

Does that sound like he was cleared to you?

LE released that statement claiming he was "cleared" to make Ron feel COMFORTABLE talking with them. LE does that all the time.

LE stated in the Michelle Parker case that the estranged ex Dayle Smith was NOT a suspect or person of interest and said he was cooperative and then changed it weeks later and named him an official suspect.

LE releases statements that may NOT be true to toy with people. That is obviously what happened here, since the PCSO came out last year and stated both Ron and Misty were not telling everything they know.
The only place the word "cleared" has been used is in that article in MA. I seriously doubt Florida LE would have given them more information than area media.
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In August of 2009, Gary Bowling with the PCSO said that Ron "resisted questioning" and that they would like to interview him.

Does that sound like he was cleared to you?

LE released that statement claiming he was "cleared" to make Ron feel COMFORTABLE talking with them. LE does that all the time.

LE stated in the Michelle Parker case that the estranged ex Dayle Smith was NOT a suspect or person of interest and said he was cooperative and then changed it weeks later and named him an official suspect.

LE releases statements that may NOT be true to toy with people. That is obviously what happened here, since the PCSO came out last year and stated both Ron and Misty were not telling everything they know.
No, but this does.... and it's all I need straight out of LE's mouth. Not an opinion from a message board.

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pb...0309/-1/NEWS11

"... On Aug. 17, to mark Haleigh's 6th birthday, the Putnam County Sheriff's Department released a statement that said the office has received more than 4,000 leads and conducted 138 formal interviews in the search for the little girl.

They have no specific person of interest yet, though they have cleared the biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield...."
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2) If you state something as a fact, it needs a link.

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LE wanted the Croslins' facing a ton of years in order to shake something HaLeigh related out of them.
And this would be plausible, had that Judge gave Misty the 100 years that Ron was told she was getting. Wonder what happened with that?
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By 'tagging along' I didn't mean there for the ride. It was obvious he was there dealing/selling.... so he was arrested also.
His arrest, unlike Misty and Tommy's, had nothing to do with HaLeigh was my point.
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No, but this does.... and it's all I need straight out of LE's mouth. Not an opinion from a message board.

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pb...0309/-1/NEWS11

"... On Aug. 17, to mark Haleigh's 6th birthday, the Putnam County Sheriff's Department released a statement that said the office has received more than 4,000 leads and conducted 138 formal interviews in the search for the little girl.

They have no specific person of interest yet, though they have cleared the biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield...."
How can they clear someone who isn't cooperating with them? Obviously they "cleared" him simply to play games with him. It is a tool LE does all the time to trip their main suspects up, and it is obviously what they were doing with Ronald.

Take the timeline... The statement you refrence RE the clearing was released by the PCSO AUGUST 17th 2009.

August 9th 2009 in an article written by Dana Treen, Gary Bowling with the PCSO says they want to interview Ronald again, and he has resisted their questioning.

August 9th 2009, Ronald is even quoted saying HE IS BEING UNFAIRLY TARGETED by the PCSO...

"Cummings said he and former girlfriend Misty Croslin — who he has since married and is now Misty Cummings — have been unfairly targeted.

“There should have been more attention to Crystal’s family,” he said. “I think they should have paid more attention to everyone rather than just me and Misty.”

He said questioning should have been broader.

“They didn’t have the big picture,” he said. “Why do they not question everybody?”

Cummings: It went ‘personal’

Cummings has cut off interviews with investigators.

“Besides ‘No I didn’t have nothing to do with my child being missing,’ what do you say?” he asked.

Maj. Gary Bowling, director of law enforcement for the department, said detectives would like to interview Cummings again but have been resisted.


SOURCE: http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2...#ixzz1r0cIWKaf

So do you want everyone to believe from August 9th -- to August 17th of 2009 that the PCSO went from "unfairly targeting" (Ron's own words) and wanting to QUESTION him, to flat out CLEARING HIM?

You want us to believe that within 8 days, things changed that much?

Come on let's use some critical thinking.
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How can they clear someone who isn't cooperating with them? Obviously they "cleared" him simply to play games with him. It is a tool LE does all the time to trip their main suspects up, and it is obviously what they were doing with Ronald.

Take the timeline...

August 9th 2009 in an article written by Dana Treen, Gary Bowling with the PCSO says they want to interview Ronald again, and he has resisted their questioning.

August 9th 2009, Ronald is even quoted saying HE IS BEING UNFAIRLY TARGETED by the PCSO...

"Cummings said he and former girlfriend Misty Croslin — who he has since married and is now Misty Cummings — have been unfairly targeted.

“There should have been more attention to Crystal’s family,” he said. “I think they should have paid more attention to everyone rather than just me and Misty.”

He said questioning should have been broader.

“They didn’t have the big picture,” he said. “Why do they not question everybody?”

Cummings: It went ‘personal’

Cummings has cut off interviews with investigators.

“Besides ‘No I didn’t have nothing to do with my child being missing,’ what do you say?” he asked.

Maj. Gary Bowling, director of law enforcement for the department, said detectives would like to interview Cummings again but have been resisted.


SOURCE: http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2...#ixzz1r0cIWKaf

So do you want everyone to believe from August 9th -- to August 17th of 2009 that the PCSO went from "unfairly targeting" (Ron's own words) and wanting to QUESTION him, to flat out CLEARING HIM?

You want us to believe that within 8 days, things changed that much?

Come on let's use some critical thinking.

And in the 8 days, they contacted a newspaper over 1000 miles away to announce this.
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This is another telling quote by Gary Bowling with the PCSO...

Bowling said it takes rock-solid alibis before detectives can eliminate anyone and those have not been established. He said the best that can be done is assign degrees of suspicion to people.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2...#ixzz1r0qjQTzw

I thought Ron's alibi was established??? DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT!

Kim Picazio also said the same thing on JVM:

"We did come to know some of those things. Ron has to have known about those things and Ron was not telling the entire truth when he said that he was at work the whole time and things of that nature." http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...0/ijvm.01.html
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And this would be plausible, had that Judge gave Misty the 100 years that Ron was told she was getting. Wonder what happened with that?
I imagine it would depend on who Ron "was told" this by..
What likely "happened with that" is Misty got all she could as determined by the judge and laws pertaining to her charges..
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I've posted links, same ones proving what I say, only to have them ignored or poo-pooed so many times that we should be out of banwidth.
And I posted links that directly quoted Gary Bowling, where he stated that no alibi's have been established, nobody has been ruled out, Ronald Cummings resisted questioning, and that detectives would like to interview him again.

Plus words right out of Ron's own mouth that he thinks that the PCSO unfairly targeted both he and Misty. That was 8 days before the statement about Ron being cleared was issued.

I didn't ignore your link... I explained it away. All of which clearly show the statement that Ron had been cleared, was a ploy to make Ron talk to them again.

Ron even stated that the PCSO was basically looking at him as a suspect. I take him at this word... Do you?
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