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One of the reasons I haven't latched on to this one for our Longview case is because what are the chances a 12 yo can survive for a few years, get a new identity and become a "successful" adult? I don't know, but it doesn't seem good. However, I don't want to totally rule out anyone.
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A few years ago I would have agreed but after Jaycee Dugard I believe anything is possible.
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If you guys want to ask FB admins to post her on their pages, we don't have a problem with that. The only thing is not to say that Websleuths asked for it to be posted there. You can say you saw her on Websleuths, however.
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Thanks, Kimster. My misgivings about this approach are that my instincts are telling me this woman has an assumed identity due to escaping an abusive situation rather than a criminal past. I realize she is now deceased, but she does have a small child. I go back and forth between wanting her identity discovered so her child will know who her mama really was, and thinking maybe it's better to let sleeping dogs lie, in case this alerts some crazy stalker psycho person she may have been running from and that person ends up getting access to the child.
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Thanks, Kimster. My misgivings about this approach are that my instincts are telling me this woman has an assumed identity due to escaping an abusive situation rather than a criminal past. I realize she is now deceased, but she does have a small child. I go back and forth between wanting her identity discovered so her child will know who her mama really was, and thinking maybe it's better to let sleeping dogs lie, in case this alerts some crazy stalker psycho person she may have been running from and that person ends up getting access to the child.
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I think it was an abusive situation as well, but still would want the child to know one day.....
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05-04-2012, 06:17 PM
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It is described that Lori Lee Berens left because of a fight with a sibling- and she was 21 when she left...so it isn't like she left a husband or was a minor under their parents thumb although I guess we can't know exactly what the family was like.
As far as posting on other pages, in regards to dangers of her child:
Yes, there is some concern but the fact is that they would have no custodial rights to the child---if I was a dad to a young child there would be no way I would let her visit with strangers even if they were relatives--so I am less concerned with the situation spoken of above.
JMO of course.
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It is described that Lori Lee Berens left because of a fight with a sibling- and she was 21 when she left...so it isn't like she left a husband or was a minor under their parents thumb although I guess we can't know exactly what the family was like.
As far as posting on other pages, in regards to dangers of her child:
Yes, there is some concern but the fact is that they would have no custodial rights to the child---if I was a dad to a young child there would be no way I would let her visit with strangers even if they were relatives--so I am less concerned with the situation spoken of above.
JMO of course.
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Abusers can be very manipulative and charming people.
I think the best way to go would be to indentify this woman and the circumstances of her fake ID before whatever family she may have were aware, but that is easier said than done. LE has already put her picture out there, but if I were to personally put it out there some more, and it didn't end well, I would feel really bad about it. Too bad I can't just snap my fingers and know why she chose to 'disappear', it would make it a lot easier to know the best way to proceed.
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I haven't re-read all these posts so I'll ask if anyone knows how it was determined that she was born in 1969?
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I haven't re-read all these posts so I'll ask if anyone knows how it was determined that she was born in 1969?
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It was in her obit. Not sure if it is correct though.
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So, has anyone contacted the cousin? I know some people have reservations about it--- you can see what my opinion is above FWIW.
If not, what should we do now? Keep looking? Give LE the list of possibilities?
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If not, what should we do now? Keep looking? Give LE the list of possibilities?
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JMO, I don't see anyone among the MP's presented here that look like strong possibles for our Jane Doe.
I would guess that this woman was never reported as a missing person. Maybe a fugitive. Maybe she was fleeing from an abusive relationship. But MOO is that the chances of her being a MP listed in Charley, DoeNet, NAMPN, or NamUs are very remote.
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I know that the age is a bit off, but she looks a little bit like Cherrie Ann Mahan in her age progression photo. I wish that this case could be solved; but I also wish that Cherrie would be found.
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JMO, I don't see anyone among the MP's presented here that look like strong possibles for our Jane Doe.
I would guess that this woman was never reported as a missing person. Maybe a fugitive. Maybe she was fleeing from an abusive relationship. But MOO is that the chances of her being a MP listed in Charley, DoeNet, NAMPN, or NamUs are very remote.
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Yeah, I pretty much agree with you. Does anyone know if there are lists of fugitives? I have looked but they seem to only post the top ten. My guess is there are tens of thousands of people that have warrants out, so that would be a pretty impossible task and probably a waste of time.
I also imagine that SS investigators have a lot more resources at their disposal than we do and they can't solve it...
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I found one bounty hunter's sight that had 4 or 5 pages of female fugitives, but I didn't see any that looked like our doe.
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This is really bugging me that she can't be identified. I did hear that she shot herself in her car in the driveway when she was arriving to get her child from visitation.
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I found one bounty hunter's sight that had 4 or 5 pages of female fugitives, but I didn't see any that looked like our doe.
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yeah, all the sites I have found for various counties only carry the top ten for their area or pages for the last couple of years. So that line of research is probably a dead end.
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This is really bugging me that she can't be identified. I did hear that she shot herself in her car in the driveway when she was arriving to get her child from visitation.
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This is really bugging me that she can't be identified. I did hear that she shot herself in her car in the driveway when she was arriving to get her child from visitation.
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Oh my. That is so, so sad. Can I ask how you got this information GDUD? Did you find an article or do you know someone in the area who heard about it? I am completely stumped in looking for information - wondered if you might have a new angle or some suggestions...
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Oh my. That is so, so sad. Can I ask how you got this information GDUD? Did you find an article or do you know someone in the area who heard about it? I am completely stumped in looking for information - wondered if you might have a new angle or some suggestions...
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I was born in Longview so I sniffed around a little so it could be just a rumor, I wonder if we could verify it through death certificate? I am new to this sleuthing!
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I was born in Longview so I sniffed around a little so it could be just a rumor, I wonder if we could verify it through death certificate? I am new to this sleuthing!
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I think you need to get verified as a local?? You should PM a mod so they can help you do that.
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I don't know how to PM yet. Mods, can you call me out if I am wrong? Thanks so much! 
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Ehhh, I think you're okay, GDUD:
I think you'd need to be verified if you said you were her cousin in law or former co-worker or the ambulance driver or something. But if you're just sniffing around, I'm pretty sure it's all good. Keep sniffing!
(if you are really concerned you could click the little triangular "alert" button in the upper right hand of the post in question and a moderator will be notified - just to be on the safe side).
Do you have any connections that could get some kind of newspaper archive or something from the local library? Articles about her death or wedding announcement or something? The archival sources in this case are just horrible!
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Ehhh, I think you're okay, GDUD: Rules Verification Process for Professional or Insider Posters - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
I think you'd need to be verified if you said you were her cousin in law or former co-worker or the ambulance driver or something. But if you're just sniffing around, I'm pretty sure it's all good. Keep sniffing!
(if you are really concerned you could click the little triangular "alert" button in the upper right hand of the post in question and a moderator will be notified - just to be on the safe side).
Do you have any connections that could get some kind of newspaper archive or something from the local library? Articles about her death or wedding announcement or something? The archival sources in this case are just horrible! |
I haven't been able to locate any publications from that area. I don't think it was publicized.
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I've been away for a few weeks and just came back to see if any progress has been made. I like the idea of posting the picture on FB sites. I also think somebody should follow up on the Mary Louise Day possible match. Something just strikes me about that one. It is odd how there is so little information. I know the obit said she was from AZ, but I keep getting the feeling that there is a California connection.
Welcome GDUD! Thanks for digging around with the locals to add to what we know about the case. Would it be possible for you to ask around to see if anybody local is aware of the fact that she was using a stolen identity?
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Yes some of the locals told me that the family suspected . I am curious why the SSA is just now as of February 9th trying to locate her identity. I wonder what came up about her that the SSA would be trying to find her identity. I wonder if the family tried to apply for benefits for the child or something. Because she died in 2010. Maybe the family just found out somehow and are asking the SSA for assistance in identifying her.
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Yes some of the locals told me that the family suspected . I am curious why the SSA is just now as of February 9th trying to locate her identity. I wonder what came up about her that the SSA would be trying to find her identity. I wonder if the family tried to apply for benefits for the child or something. Because she died in 2010. Maybe the family just found out somehow and are asking the SSA for assistance in identifying her.
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I wonder why/what the family suspected. The SSA might have been trying to locate her identity earlier. The Feb 9th date is just the date it was entered into NamUs. I don't know the process for getting things into NamUs, but I have noticed that sometimes people have been missing or unidentified for years before they suddenly show up in the system.
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