Zahra's remains released to her father

[distracted 1976]

Hoping its her.......

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/loca...l-found/nMc6M/

"The hunter who made the call, recorded by 911 dispatchers, is very clear about what he found.

“Right new the Winkler Way gravel road I found a human skull, small in… small in size,” he told dispatchers during the call."

[Considering]

Posted new links in the media thread about the search for additional bones (4-19-2012) and also the recording of the 911 call made by the hunter who found the skull.

[LCoastMom]

Anyone around who could map where the skull was found in relation to the other bones? Poor baby did not deserve to be left scattered across the country side.

[strawberry]

Have they not identified this skull yet? I so hope it's her.

[kcsmom76]

So far no word on the results of the skull.

I had the 11pm news on and I heard them say something about making a movie about her. I tried to looked online this morning and couldn't find anything to back that up though. So I don't know if they haven't posted it online yet or if they pulled the story.

I have mixed feeling about a movie. What if some crazy person watches it and decides that is how they are going to torture someone. But then again, people do what they are going to do. Also, I would love for the movie to be a memorial for sorts for her.

[kcsmom76]

I did find this link http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/news/2...ks-ar-2191539/

[Considering]

Originally Posted by strawberry

Have they not identified this skull yet? I so hope it's her.

Not yet. Steve Ohnesorge, reporter with WBTV-Charlotte, reported that officials think it will be a few weeks (until results are back).

[Considering]

Regarding DNA results on the skull...

"Police said the earliest the test could come back is Monday, but it could take up to two months before they have the results."

from
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/loca...riority/nMdnz/ (Date: 4/20/2012)

[tlcya]

Christie Rd, Hudson, NC to Winkler Way, Lenoir, NC 28645 - Google Maps

Christie Rd, Hudson, NC to Winkler Way, Lenoir, NC 28645 - Google Maps

Looks like Winkler Way is about 26 miles or 30 minutes from the CHristy Road search site where some of Zahra's remains were located.

[vjlaw]

So the question is, did EB's phone ping at that location if these are Zahra's remains?

[AmandaReckonwith]

We saved a lot of Zahra info. So much that we had to put it in some kind of organized sub-sections.

The search section is here:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/m...20for%20Zahra/

To access the other sections "Elisa Baker Justice"; "Adam Baker Justice"; "Memorials- Vigils- Remembrances"
....go to the main Case Archive, and click from there:
(Main Archive has the main story)
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/m...ker%20%20-NC-/




If the skull was not Zahra, the answer would be sooner. I think it has to be her.

[FrayedKnot]

Amanda, I have to agree. Had they ruled out Zahra, they would have been quick to release that info.

I am really hoping the skull is Zahra's and that it holds clues that will bring about new charges and arrests. I am sickened that those who ought to bear some accountability are walking free.


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[Lanie]

I also agree, while they may not know for sure it is Zahra, there has been plenty of time to rule her out. This case still just bugs the blankety blank out of me. As much as it bothers me to think this little girl has been scattered everywhere (which IMO deserved the death penalty) it just doesn't seem any better to know she is found and gets turned over to the sperm donor.

[Considering]

The SBI and the NC ME sent the skull out of state to a specialist for testing about two weeks ago.

http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/Skull...162087475.html

http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/news/2...ng-ar-2424312/

[Lanie]

Still nothing? Just seems disrespectful somehow...

[Flakes]

Originally Posted by Lanie

Still nothing? Just seems disrespectful somehow...

How so? Who does it benefit to rush a finding?

IMO to neglect a thorough scientific investigation into the evidence, or to announce a premature finding would be disrespectful to Zahra.

[Lanie]

Originally Posted by Flakes

How so? Who does it benefit to rush a finding?

IMO to neglect a thorough scientific investigation into the evidence, or to announce a premature finding would be disrespectful to Zahra.

Because at that point they had had the skull for over three months.

You consider that rushed??? It's what, four months now? Still nothing?

[Flakes]

Originally Posted by Lanie

Because at that point they had had the skull for over three months.

You consider that rushed??? It's what, four months now? Still nothing?

Lanie, I think we live in a world where we feel entitled to instant gratification. We're selfishly impatient. Popular media (TV programs, etc) have us under the illusion that forensic or medical research and investigations are immediate. The truth is, it is nothing of the kind.

I recall a recent article in 'The Age' newspaper; the author stated: "In medical dramas such as House or Grey's Anatomy, test results return immediately; in my experience they can take months. Much of India's testing was done at labs overseas. We waited a year for one result." This is the parent of a child who is living with an extreme, debilitating condition. This is how long it takes to get results for a living person who is suffering terribly from undiagnosed conditions, where the specialists are keen to get accurate results as promptly as possible to minimise the child's suffering.

Article: http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/l...813-244ad.html

Why do we expect the forensic investigations of the skull to be any faster? Surely accuracy is the important factor?

I think we need to give the forensic experts and investigators whatever time they need to solve this mystery.

[Lanie]

Originally Posted by Flakes

Lanie, I think we live in a world where we feel entitled to instant gratification. We're selfishly impatient. Popular media (TV programs, etc) have us under the illusion that forensic or medical research and investigations are immediate. The truth is, it is nothing of the kind.

I recall a recent article in 'The Age' newspaper; the author stated: "In medical dramas such as House or Grey's Anatomy, test results return immediately; in my experience they can take months. Much of India's testing was done at labs overseas. We waited a year for one result." This is the parent of a child who is living with an extreme, debilitating condition. This is how long it takes to get results for a living person who is suffering terribly from undiagnosed conditions, where the specialists are keen to get accurate results as promptly as possible to minimise the child's suffering.

Article: http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/l...813-244ad.html

Why do we expect the forensic investigations of the skull to be any faster? Surely accuracy is the important factor?

I think we need to give the forensic experts and investigators whatever time they need to solve this mystery.

Thank you, Flake, but I don't feel 'entitled to instant gratification' and I am also well aware the cop shows on tv where the case is solved in an hour are fiction.

I realize on an intellectual level Zahra is gone, and her skull sitting around gathering dust for months on end doesn't matter, but on an emotional level, it just comes across to me as still no one giving a d*mn about her letting her skull sit around for months on end gathering dust. Sorry if you find that offensive in some way.

They already have her dna, they know who they are trying to match the skull to, and I guess I will just agree to disagree that it takes 4, 5, 6 or more months to get a dna sample from a skull.

[Donjeta]

Should this forum be moved somewhere? There are no trials coming up any more, are there? Elisa was convicted and Adam apparently got away with it.

[Nonni Brenda]

I'm just wondering if the dna results are back yet on the skull? Am I still on the right thread for that discussion, or was one opened up for it? It has been such a long time. Surely the results are back by now???

[watcher9]

Looking back over this case, I saw that this thread was incomplete.
The skull was finally identified as Zahra in Feb of 2013.
A new thread was set up to discuss this identification.
Here's the link.

Zahra Baker's skull identified... - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Zahra Baker's skull identified... - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community