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08-07-2012, 02:39 PM
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There is a thread for this case - maybe the two could be merged?
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ghlight=kenora
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08-07-2012, 02:49 PM
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Oops. My mistake. Could you merge for us Carl, or delete my thread if necessary?
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08-07-2012, 03:35 PM
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You are right Tom, nice eye. I hadn't noticed it until you pointed it out.
Maybe this is why they couldn't do a facial sketch. She has a pretty distinct description though. I hope the surgery aspect helps family identify her, if anymore family exists. |
I agree, the back wall on that tent is photoshopped.
OPP says no foul play involved though?
Who is this woman?
The sketch is so detailed.
Could she be American?
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08-08-2012, 04:27 AM
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Regarding shoe size...
A boys size 5 shoe would fit a women's size 7 shoe-- hiking boots aren't very feminine looking as it is, so women often buy mens/boys boots. In fact, my boots are boys and are size 5 1/2.
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08-08-2012, 05:44 AM
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This is what confuses me about these investigations. The police have her body and the decomposition would have been minimal after a week. Why is there a 4 inch range in her height? Can't they just measure her?
That age range is also remarkable. Almost 25 years. This is typical of Canadian police investigations. They never want to release information to the public because it may "jeopardize an investigation". In this case, foul play is not suspected so why not release a composite sketch and some more accurate physical characteristics?
A lot of people have made allusion to this in other discussion boards. I'm not sure which method is better, but the practice of canadian police forces to keep all the information secret from the public is probably why there are so many missing people and unidentified decedents in Canada per capita than in the US.
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I'm still on page 1 of this thread so not sure if her height was already discussed. I'm 5'3. Her jeans show a size of 6P. P = Petite. Petite sizes are for shorter women. I'm not sure if there are any other stores besides Winners that carry petite sizes. I would assume The Bay or Sears or any of the bigger chains would. I buy most of my bottoms at Winners because they have the P section and I don't have to go through the trouble of hemming my pants. IMO, this woman was no taller than 5'4"
HTH
ETA: I just saw that brand of jeans is sold at Zellers.
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08-08-2012, 06:09 AM
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RE: Jaw surgery.
Maybe she was a victim of domestic abuse?
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08-08-2012, 07:21 AM
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She's within the estimated height range for Jane Doe though, and I'm not certain that the First Nations thing is necessarily an issue. I've known a fair few Natives who have mixed ancestry, so the most common way(s) of identifying ethnicity might not apply. EDIT- Oh, that statement was not well worded. Genetics can be weird (see my white relative who is such a genetic throwback to the several-generations-old Native ancestry that people can identify the correct tribe), and some areas have more genetic "mingling" than others. I don't know what the situation is like up the Kenora way.
Shelley wore glasses, and the style seems similar (oval, lightish colour) as the ones found on the Jane Doe- not the same, obviously, but the photo of Shelley might be old and weren't her current pair when she disappeared. There's no tattoo listed on Jane Doe, but the information on Shelley's is just that there is one somewhere. Since she wasn't reported missing until July 2010 after not cashing her check for 12 months (meaning she probably disappeared in June/July 2009), she might have been overlooked. I'm certainly no expert, but if nobody else can find an obvious reason to rule her out it might be worth a call just in case.
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She's been ruled out.
http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=3728.15
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08-08-2012, 08:03 AM
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If she's from Kenora, there is only one hospital where she could have had the jaw surgery done. How long do hospitals keep medical records?
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08-08-2012, 11:17 AM
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If she's from Kenora, there is only one hospital where she could have had the jaw surgery done. How long do hospitals keep medical records?
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I don't know if the Canadian laws are as restrictive as they are in the U.S., but in the U.S., medical records are inaccessible to law enforcement without a court-issued warrant. And in order to get a warrant, they must have a name of the person whose records they wish to look at.
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I don't know if the Canadian laws are as restrictive as they are in the U.S., but in the U.S., medical records are inaccessible to law enforcement without a court-issued warrant. And in order to get a warrant, they must have a name of the person whose records they wish to look at.
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Thanks Carl. I'm going to guess it's the same in Canada. How do they obtain records if the person is "unidentified"? Can they get a warrant requesting records for all patients who had "jaw surgery" within a specific time period? Maybe they can narrow it down to the type of surgery? Gosh it would probably take years, wouldn't it?
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I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the tent really puts me off and gives me a feeling she had help getting there. I work in a department store and have been selling tents similar to the one shown. The tents are usually in a long rectangular bag, I would find it awkward to travel with this but someone else would have found it memorable (not many walk the streets with a tent).
Was the bag for the tent ever found? or did someone leave with it by accident?
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08-10-2012, 04:06 PM
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The fly is missing as well... the tent looks small enough to fit in a pack. Friends have one that has a larger foot print than that one and even with the fly they can carry it in their backpack. I don't remember a backpack mentioned though...
ETA: just noticed on the first page that there was a black duffle bag... with the limited items found, it looks like it's possible for the tent to have fit in that bag.
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08-10-2012, 04:17 PM
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I agree jessica - how could she get there by herself, no vehicle, unseen? Seems to me she was at the very least dropped off.
Also wonder if she lit the stove inside the tent without realizing the possible consequences or did someone light it for her and suggest she wait there until they return?
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08-10-2012, 04:18 PM
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Surely if she was lugging equipment around by herself, someone one would remember that.
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09-03-2012, 05:51 PM
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Bumping.
I am not baffled by how she got there. Look at her shoe, she probably was on foot. Someone who walks/hikes a lot is going to be in pretty good shape also, as this person was.
Since she died of CO poisoning there would be no reason to photoshop the back of the tent out. I don't think that the back of the tent has been photoshopped at all. It looks to me like the same material as the front of the tent.
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12-10-2012, 10:49 AM
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I think the UID looks a lot like Melinda Dehart. Problem is it is not clear that Melinda is actually a missing person. I was actually doing a google search for missing persons, saw Melinda's photo, and it immediately tweaked my memory about this Kenora case. Maybe some techie can post a side by side of the photo in this thread. Melinda's photo is at this link:
http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingn...king_miss.html
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12-10-2012, 10:53 AM
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Melinda Dehart has her own threat here at websleuths:
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12-10-2012, 11:55 AM
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This is totally off topic but there is a tent like that in the woods off of a major interstate here in northern VA and every morning I pass it I wonder if there's a dead person in it.
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12-10-2012, 12:00 PM
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https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/5513/2/
April Pease -- 5'3", 120lbs... had a tattoo though but I like the teeth resemblance. Missing from Hennepin Co., MN since March 2009.
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12-10-2012, 07:16 PM
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IMO she looks past 45. Note in the sketch the beginning of "jowls" and the eye wrinkles and eyelid sagging. Of course living a hard life can also age you prematurely.
Of interest to me is whether it appeared as if she was living in this tent (homeless). The writeup makes no note of any additional clothes or possessions and the tent picture shows it empty. I would expect a homeless individual to have a few more changes of clothing with them. That makes me wonder if she had a car nearby with the rest of her things, or she was traveling and stopped for a night. I would assume LE looked for any vehicles abandoned/towed in that area.
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12-10-2012, 07:35 PM
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I think the UID looks a lot like Melinda Dehart. Problem is it is not clear that Melinda is actually a missing person. I was actually doing a google search for missing persons, saw Melinda's photo, and it immediately tweaked my memory about this Kenora case. Maybe some techie can post a side by side of the photo in this thread. Melinda's photo is at this link:
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Yes, so do I. he one tooth on the left looks the same and so do the glasses.
I don't know how to do a side by side but would LOVE to see one...
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12-10-2012, 08:55 PM
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I think it looks like that same person.. Remember the real photo was put out 2 yrs prior to the woman found in the tent... Humm..
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Well, there is a strong resemblance for sure. I do see some differences around the eye area (in the photograph at least one eye seems tilted up in the corner) and the face in general is bonier. However, very close.
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Has Melinda been reported missing again? I see she was located a few years back.  The resemblance is uncanny.
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