VA - Amy Bradley, 23, Petersburg, 24 March 1998 - #1

Status
Not open for further replies.
Thanks!

I think I'm losing it, I'm still confused about the sketch of Amy on the FBI website, was that from Barbados or San Fran? The FBI website states Barbados and your post says it was done after the San Francisco sighting. I guess what I'm asking is what sighting is the wild hair sketch from and was her appearance in San Fran more subdued?



I posted a reply and then I had to delete it because I double checked the information.

The sketch of Amy with the wild hair was made after the sighting in Barbados, in 2005. The witnesses from San Francisco confirmed that Amy had looked exactly the same way in 2003. Other witnesses have also confirmed that her hair is wild like in the sketch.
 
I really do feel badly, but I can't answer some of your questions. As I explained before, information about sightings has not been shared with the public since Barbados in 2005. This is for the integrity of the investigation and Amy's safety. Details from the previous sightings have not been shared, either. I will tell you that this is not a cold case. It is an active investigation.

We don't know why Amy's photograph appeared on the escort resort website because there was absolutely no evidence that she had ever been there. Her photographs don't even match the rest of the escorts. I have personally wondered if someone wanted us to think that she was an escort or prostitute. It seems pretty dumb to me to post the photograph of a high profile missing American woman on an escort website.

The "brothel" where she was seen in Curacao was not a brothel. In Curacao, prostitution is legal and there are designated brothels. Amy was seen in an old hotel in the Ortobanda section of Willemstad. It was not a brothel, although I'm sure there were some prostitutes legally available through the hotel. The hotel had a bar that was an attraction in the harbor area. This is where the Navy sailor saw Amy and she spoke to him. He never reported that she was trying to attract a "client" and he never said that anyone was pimping her out. She might have just been staying there with the two handlers because the hotel was a regular hotel for guests. It burned down about a year later. It was an old hotel that was probably built in the early 1900s.

The ship was Rhapsody of the Seas. They had one of the family suites. I don't know the room number. I will have to ask Iva and Ron.

Ok thank you. I may be able to figure it out by just looking at family suites. It just seems to me that a balcony would be over the deck of part of the ship itself, not hanging off the side.

*Ok I can see from the pictures that someone could clear the ship if they climb and jump over the railing. Not that I think that happened at all. As others have said the railings are very high so I can't see how someone would just fall over. I would think the cruise company knows this. They don't want the liability of someone falling over, so I would guess they know something happened to Amy and she didn't just fall.
 
Ok thank you. I may be able to figure it out by just looking at family suites. It just seems to me that a balcony would be over the deck of part of the ship itself, not hanging off the side.

*Ok I can see from the pictures that someone could clear the ship if they climb and jump over the railing. Not that I think that happened at all. As others have said the railings are very high so I can't see how someone would just fall over. I would think the cruise company knows this. They don't want the liability of someone falling over, so I would guess they know something happened to Amy and she didn't just fall.






Royal Caribbean knows that Amy didn't fall overboard.

I do wonder, though, where all of the surveillance videos are from that cruise. I wonder if someone threw them overboard.
 
After Amy disappeared, the Bradleys were back in their home in Virginia. There was a family gathering at their home. A concerned neighbor came to the door to report that two young men were sitting in a car further down the street. They had a telephoto lense and they were photographing the Bradley home, as relatives came to the house.

The police were called, but the young men took off. Somehow the police determined that it had been a rental car. The authorities believe that these people may have been photographing Amy's family for her captors.

I've read all the posts, done some of my own research, looked at the pictures, and am still really confused. Especially after this last post.

Whoever took Amy has gone through an awful lot to hide her, move her, take pics of the family, steal pictures, change her appearance, work in cahoots with the cruise line, etc.... What I can't understand is why??? What was the benefit? The end game? The pay off?

The "handlers" have to make sure she is moved, and doesn't come into contact with english speaking people wherever she is. Because she might ask for help. It's happened in the past. How do you do that in the Carribean? Everywhere I go in the Carib, I run into tons of folks who speak english. I run into Americans everywhere!

And then, they take her to San Francisco. How? Why? So many questions on that one?

At some point, whoever is in charge of all of this, has to fly 2 guys to Va. 2 guys with a passport, and able to rent a car, and they come to sit outside and take pictures. For what? To scare Amy? Doesn't that seem like an awful lot of trouble to go through?

It just seems there must be some very important info missing, or something obvious I am not seeing. Can't seem to put my finger on it.

All JMO's and ramblings
 
attachment.php
 
I've read all the posts, done some of my own research, looked at the pictures, and am still really confused. Especially after this last post.

Whoever took Amy has gone through an awful lot to hide her, move her, take pics of the family, steal pictures, change her appearance, work in cahoots with the cruise line, etc.... What I can't understand is why??? What was the benefit? The end game? The pay off?

The "handlers" have to make sure she is moved, and doesn't come into contact with english speaking people wherever she is. Because she might ask for help. It's happened in the past. How do you do that in the Carribean? Everywhere I go in the Carib, I run into tons of folks who speak english. I run into Americans everywhere!

And then, they take her to San Francisco. How? Why? So many questions on that one?

At some point, whoever is in charge of all of this, has to fly 2 guys to Va. 2 guys with a passport, and able to rent a car, and they come to sit outside and take pictures. For what? To scare Amy? Doesn't that seem like an awful lot of trouble to go through?

It just seems there must be some very important info missing, or something obvious I am not seeing. Can't seem to put my finger on it.

All JMO's and ramblings






Illegal activities are sometimes extremely lucrative.
 
I have been reading about amy being missing from the beginning and feel so bad for her family. It is a real mystery and very odd. I don't understand like I believe others have stated why these people would not get someone who is a willing participant. Be it prostitution or drug smuggling - why not have someone who they don't have to worry will be recognized or try to get help. I hope her family does find out one day what happened to her.
 
I've been thinking - what if Amy was taken as a concubine for some extremely higher up in the underworld. I know that sounds farfetched but it makes sense imo. Someone saw her on the ship, wanted her and got her. That's why she's always flanked by men when she's seen. Of course, this is all IMO.
 
I've been thinking - what if Amy was taken as a concubine for some extremely higher up in the underworld. I know that sounds farfetched but it makes sense imo. Someone saw her on the ship, wanted her and got her. That's why she's always flanked by men when she's seen. Of course, this is all IMO.





I guess anything like that would be possible. I don't believe that Amy is a prostitute, but I'm sure she has been abused by her captors.
 
Based on the info in this thread, it certainly does seem unlikely that Amy would willingly leave that ship, leave her loving family frantic, and start some new underworld type of life in some foreign land. I also believe that at some point since 1998 (being so high profile), she would have been found or released, or escaped with some sort of help. Most especially if she were traveling such as suggested by the alleged sighting in San Francisco.

Based on this possibilities, I have to once again agree with Otto. I think it's a very high probability that she went over that rail. She was seen on the balconey, had been somewhat seasick the whole trip, and then 20 minutes later she has vanished. She would have definately taken her shoes, at minimum if she were taking off.

Sadly, I believe these sightings are the product of hopeful minds, and of course, that makes sense. I'd think the same things if that were my loved one.
Someone suggested if she had gone overboard she could swim, or would have floated up on some shore. Unlikely. She would have more likely been pulled under the ship...and well...enough said about that. She would have hit the water so hard she would have been knocked out most likely, which is a small bit of a blessing I guess.

All this said, let me take another approach to figuring out this sad mystery. Even though Amy has been described as icon of stability and success, let's for a moment suspend that reality and think how this would have played out if she had been leading a "double life". Outwardly happy, but inwardly struggling.

What happened to her along the way that might have made her "snap" and do something so drastic as take off with a stranger? (Assuming she willingly left). Is there anything in her past or her behavior leading up to that night that would suggest this was even a remote possibility? I'm still not buying the "wholesome girl next door" portrayal. Any female with multiple ear piercings and multiple tattoos back in 1998 was considered "alternative", "edgy", and "wild". And she smoked, which was diametrically opposed to her star athletics. Another odd flag. Something just doesn't add up here, something the general public isn't being told and I guess is none of our business. That said, it's not adding up.

These remarks are not meant disrespectully, or to upset. These remarks are made to help consider all possibilities, and help find this woman and help her get back home to her family. All possibilities should be considered.
Finally, despite the fact the near naked pictures of who is presumed to be Amy must upset her friends and family, they should post them everywhere they can. Near nude pictures draw attention, and people will look at them. It's human nature.
Anything that draws more attention to Amy and her case will get her closer to home.

My heart, and my prayers go to Amy's family, and most especially to her mother. I will continue to pray that they get answers, get closure. Just be sure to consider all possibilities, as difficult as it may be.

I personally find it difficult to believe that someone Amy's height could just "fall" overboard, at least without help. The railings are 44 inches high, that's almost 4 feet. Amy was average height, 5'7", and she was seen sitting out on the balcony smoking, so I assume she also was fairly sober. I have read nothing to indicate otherwise.
All the reports that I have read regarding anyone falling overboard have been in incidences where the individual was very inebriated or there was suspected foul play involved. That doesn't fit anything about the situation in Amy's case as far as everything that's been reported.
I also don't think it makes any sense to discount all of the sightings of Amy over the last few years. It's not as though there has only been one, there have been several. And if the FBI believes the reported sightings were legitimate , they would have to have legitimate reasons to believe so. JMO
 
I noticied that Amy kept her hair rather short if it were grown out does it have the texture that would look tousled if long. What I am trying to say my hair is straight it wouldn't look like that long or short. Could it be a wig or maybe a perm?
 
FindAmy, I was just searching Google images for that photo I mentioned last night, and came across this photo on the following site on which they were discussing Amy. The person that posted it said it was taken at Carlos and Charlie's. Wanted to make sure it got to you in case you'd not seen it before.

http://*************.net/index.php?topic=960.0

View attachment 25915

(Mods, please remove if against ToS.)

IJMO, but this photo does not look like Amy to me. Just looks different than the others. Also, I thought that Amy did not go to Carlos and Charlies, in fact had refused. Am I wrong?
 
I personally find it difficult to believe that someone Amy's height could just "fall" overboard, at least without help. The railings are 44 inches high, that's almost 4 feet. Amy was average height, 5'7", and she was seen sitting out on the balcony smoking, so I assume she also was fairly sober. I have read nothing to indicate otherwise.
All the reports that I have read regarding anyone falling overboard have been in incidences where the individual was very inebriated or there was suspected foul play involved. That doesn't fit anything about the situation in Amy's case as far as everything that's been reported.
I also don't think it makes any sense to discount all of the sightings of Amy over the last few years. It's not as though there has only been one, there have been several. And if the FBI believes the reported sightings were legitimate , they would have to have legitimate reasons to believe so. JMO

Okay, then perhaps she decided to SIT on top of the railing and dangle her feet and watch the sun rise? She lost her balance....
Let's think logically. There is only a 20 minute window of time when she disapeared. Those suites aren't that big. She would have had to walk right past her parents in bed? Chance are they would have roused?

Finally, I'm going to ask a very difficult question, but we ask difficult questions in this forum. Did her family members take and pass a polygraph?
 
Okay, then perhaps she decided to SIT on top of the railing and dangle her feet and watch the sun rise? She lost her balance....
Let's think logically. There is only a 20 minute window of time when she disapeared. Those suites aren't that big. She would have had to walk right past her parents in bed? Chance are they would have roused?

Finally, I'm going to ask a very difficult question, but we ask difficult questions in this forum. Did her family members take and pass a polygraph?




Yes, every member of the family took and passed a polygraph.

I don't understand how she could climb on the railing that is almost four feet high and only a few inches wide, and then dangle her feet.

I don't understand why everyone finds it so difficult for her to walk from the balcony through the sitting area of the family suite and out into the hallway. She wasn't even in the sleeping area with her parents. Why would that wake them? She was obviously looking for coffee and maybe she even wanted to watch the ship dock from the highest deck. Alister Douglas saw his prey, he offered her drugged coffee, and she disappeared in the freight elevator.

I have even wondered if Alister Douglas might previously have told her that the disco area on that upper deck had a great view of the docking procedure at the cruise terminal. I have wondered if that's how he set her up.



attachment.php
 
A few yrs back my friend, her husband thrir daughter and me and my daughter went to Jamaica. We stayed at a house right on the beach. One night the girls (they were both
23 at the time) wanted to go into town to Margaritaville so me and my friend went with them. We had a driver at the beach house that took us everywhere, I am saying it would not be safe for young girls to be alone there. On the way back we stopped at a convience store to get cokes and snacks. My friend and i went in and the driver stood in the doorway of the store where he could see us and see the girls out in the van, He never took his eyes off of the 4 of us, I was glad because there were some creepy looking men there it creeped us all out a little, No way should women young or old be out by themselves there...
 
Okay, then perhaps she decided to SIT on top of the railing and dangle her feet and watch the sun rise? She lost her balance....
Let's think logically. There is only a 20 minute window of time when she disapeared. Those suites aren't that big. She would have had to walk right past her parents in bed? Chance are they would have roused?

Finally, I'm going to ask a very difficult question, but we ask difficult questions in this forum. Did her family members take and pass a polygraph?

Good points. Any parent will tell you that once you become a parent you never sleep the same again. I sleep very lightly at home and definitely don't sleep well on vacation.

I also wonder if the family had any general rules, I realize Amy was an adult but did they have a rule, leave a note if you leave the suite??? What about the work associates they were traveling with? Didn't one receive a copy of Amy dancing with "Yellow" and claim to pass it on to the family when he did not? Since it appears that if she was abducted that the act was well organized and planned, could a co-worker of her fathers been responsible?
 
Is it possible that the cruise line has an "Amy" look-a-like running around to give the impression that Amy is alive? Perhaps to cover their tails due to the way they handled her disappearance. They could then argue that she left willingly and they are not responsible for her circumstances after she left the ship. Their claim obviously being that she left willingly.

IMO, it's so sad, a ship would have been so easy to lock-down had a good protocol been in place.
 
Okay, then perhaps she decided to SIT on top of the railing and dangle her feet and watch the sun rise? She lost her balance....
Let's think logically. There is only a 20 minute window of time when she disapeared. Those suites aren't that big. She would have had to walk right past her parents in bed? Chance are they would have roused?

Finally, I'm going to ask a very difficult question, but we ask difficult questions in this forum. Did her family members take and pass a polygraph?

I want to ask you something, since you're saying you believe Amy did this. Would you decide to SIT on top of the railing and dangle your feet and watch the sun rise? You say this, yet you have been repeatedly told, while that's the last her dad saw her was on the balcony, other people saw her in other places.
 
I've read all the posts, done some of my own research, looked at the pictures, and am still really confused. Especially after this last post.

Whoever took Amy has gone through an awful lot to hide her, move her, take pics of the family, steal pictures, change her appearance, work in cahoots with the cruise line, etc.... What I can't understand is why??? What was the benefit? The end game? The pay off?

The "handlers" have to make sure she is moved, and doesn't come into contact with english speaking people wherever she is. Because she might ask for help. It's happened in the past. How do you do that in the Carribean? Everywhere I go in the Carib, I run into tons of folks who speak english. I run into Americans everywhere!

And then, they take her to San Francisco. How? Why? So many questions on that one?

At some point, whoever is in charge of all of this, has to fly 2 guys to Va. 2 guys with a passport, and able to rent a car, and they come to sit outside and take pictures. For what? To scare Amy? Doesn't that seem like an awful lot of trouble to go through?

It just seems there must be some very important info missing, or something obvious I am not seeing. Can't seem to put my finger on it.

All JMO's and ramblings

You make some excellent points.
 
i know people still want to exlplore the falling overboard theory. but we should stick to the facts that we do have. yes it does seem like a possibility but not likely as she was seen after the balcony on the ship

the fbi has had credible sightings over the years. the fbi would not say that unless they are 100% sure.

i dont think the cruse ship would go the lenghts to pretend someone else is amy they would have to really find a strong look alike plus that person would have to get the same tattoos as one of the sightings the guy described the tattoos to a T. they would have to be the right colors as well. and no 2 tattos are going to be alike even if they are the same design
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
197
Guests online
2,626
Total visitors
2,823

Forum statistics

Threads
595,770
Messages
18,033,427
Members
229,775
Latest member
monifah2
Back
Top