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Dubble post sorry.
I can't search very well with the phone, but I'm certain that a quick read of the first reports will show that the bodies were put there at different times over years based on decomposition and vegetation growth.
But they would decompose at different rates due to when they died. Vegetation growth and indigenous insect activity as well as the condition of the bones would indicate how long they laid in the brush.
Here is the info:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/15/nyregion/15bodies.html?_r=0
Published: December 14, 2010
Commissioner Dormer said they were spread over a quarter mile, each 500 feet from the next. But they were placed there at different times, judging by their varying degrees of decomposition, he said.
Obviously, it does not look like they were dumped at the same time, he said. A couple of them were there a year, or year and a half, or maybe two years. Not recent.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/06/nyregion/06bodies.html
Published: April 5, 2011
Investigators said that although they were placed there at different times, the four women were all in their 20s and that they had all advertised for clients on Craigslist.
But they would decompose at different rates due to when they died. Vegetation growth and indigenous insect activity as well as the condition of the bones would indicate how long they laid in the brush.
Hello all. I'm Bob Kolker, and this is my first post on WS. I've been reading the site carefully for a while now, and as I said on the podcast to Tricia, I'm very impressed with the discussions and grateful for the insights. I'm also grateful that some of you have read the book and have had such nice things to say about it and have come back with even more questions. If this book can keep the discussion going, that's great.
About the bodies and the placement: What I said about the bodies being placed all at once is not a "rumor." It's a theory I brought up during the podcast. I have no idea if it's true or not, but it seems logical to me, since I doubt the killer would want to be wasting time rooting around looking for old bodies while dumping new ones. Of course, I don't know if this theory is true. And you are quite correct to say that the theory does not fit with what Dormer said about the bodies on 12/14/10. Personally -- and again, this is just my opinion -- I don't think anything said those first couple days can be seen as definitive. You may recall that Suffolk County also said early on that they all were dead at least a year, something that proved not to be accurate in the case of Megan and Amber. So when it comes to those early statements, I feel all bets are off.
By the way, when I say nothing they said in those early days is definitive, that may also apply to the burlap and the condition of the remains. Were they wrapped in burlap, or was burlap just found nearby all of them, or just some of them? Were the skeletons completely stripped of all flesh, or not? I found I can only rely on what we all have read in the news accounts, since the police have stopped talking about it. (The family members I interviewed all do believe, based on what police told them, that the skeletons were more or less intact and they were in burlap. So that's helpful, but again, until the police offer more detail, we're all left to speculate.)
While I'm here, I should also clear up something from an earlier post on this forum. I never meant to imply that Cruz is the father of Megan's daughter. When I said she wanted to have another child with him, I meant another child for *her*. Sorry to be imprecise.
Also, when I said something to the effect that LE is "just begging the public for more information," I did not mean to imply any special knowledge of the police. I was talking about what Varrone said on 48 Hours in July when asked if the police had any leads. His only response was a plea that people who know something come forward with more information. You can take that response any number of ways, but personally, to me, that suggests they have little to go on at the moment.
Thanks again. I'm happy to be part of the conversation from here going forward, when time allows.
Hello all. I'm Bob Kolker, and this is my first post on WS.
Hello all. I'm Bob Kolker, and this is my first post on WS. I've been reading the site carefully for a while now, and as I said on the podcast to Tricia, I'm very impressed with the discussions and grateful for the insights. I'm also grateful that some of you have read the book and have had such nice things to say about it and have come back with even more questions. If this book can keep the discussion going, that's great.
About the bodies and the placement: What I said about the bodies being placed all at once is not a "rumor." It's a theory I brought up during the podcast. I have no idea if it's true or not, but it seems logical to me, since I doubt the killer would want to be wasting time rooting around looking for old bodies while dumping new ones. Of course, I don't know if this theory is true. And you are quite correct to say that the theory does not fit with what Dormer said about the bodies on 12/14/10. Personally -- and again, this is just my opinion -- I don't think anything said those first couple days can be seen as definitive. You may recall that Suffolk County also said early on that they all were dead at least a year, something that proved not to be accurate in the case of Megan and Amber. So when it comes to those early statements, I feel all bets are off.
By the way, when I say nothing they said in those early days is definitive, that may also apply to the burlap and the condition of the remains. Were they wrapped in burlap, or was burlap just found nearby all of them, or just some of them? Were the skeletons completely stripped of all flesh, or not? I found I can only rely on what we all have read in the news accounts, since the police have stopped talking about it. (The family members I interviewed all do believe, based on what police told them, that the skeletons were more or less intact and they were in burlap. So that's helpful, but again, until the police offer more detail, we're all left to speculate.)
While I'm here, I should also clear up something from an earlier post on this forum. I never meant to imply that Cruz is the father of Megan's daughter. When I said she wanted to have another child with him, I meant another child for *her*. Sorry to be imprecise.
Also, when I said something to the effect that LE is "just begging the public for more information," I did not mean to imply any special knowledge of the police. I was talking about what Varrone said on 48 Hours in July when asked if the police had any leads. His only response was a plea that people who know something come forward with more information. You can take that response any number of ways, but personally, to me, that suggests they have little to go on at the moment.
Thanks again. I'm happy to be part of the conversation from here going forward, when time allows.
I'm curious about Tony G. The info I've been able to gather on him is scarce. Other than his connection to Model Mayhem and his non-profit website, I can find nothing. Is there anything more you can offer?