ARRESTED- Luka Rocco Magnotta:1st deg murder charge #8

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ccaudill0062 said:
I don't know if anyone has seen them, but I though it might help anyways. There is a guy who argued with Luka on the internet back in 2007-2008, he had made the videos private but with what happened made them public again (it will have a recent posting date but that's b/c they was just put back on, but you can see there's older comments from like four years ago), and he also made a new video on that account reading some of the old e-mails luka sent from various accounts (acting as others or fans) to him back at that time saying that LM was to be praised as a prince and loved cupcakes, would forgive them if they helped him sell his shirts to make money for a boat to travel to Bahamas, and etc.. His account on youtube is bloglops. It really gives a interesting look into his personality. Also on the videos are some comments from supposedly "luka fans" which he (and I do too) believe was posted by LM himself, which I listed below with some reasons why I think their from accounts made by him. But maybe you guys can dig a little deeper and find some more stuff out. Hope it helps.

canadiancccp (some bernardo && homolka vids && luka pics)
simplythebestyes1 (comments defending luka)
LittleFuryThings (not sure about this one, but b/c of the name && defending comments about luka)
pricelessstud19 (comments praising luka as prine && refernces michael jackson)
liquid666liquid (has I love luka as title && defends luka in comments
megaman666megaman (defends luka && calls him prince)
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i actually found that and sent to another member for our own personal discussion...i didnt even bother posting here, since we arent allowed to post the YT stuff anymore...

it is actually very ineresting to read and listen to the flame wars between LM and this guy....
 
FootballMom said:
Well it IS NOT a MSM website (cause we've established they are the only reliable source of information)... anyway... that being said, I don't know if I am allowed to link to their forum or even if I want to give them the publicity.

I know very well that a significant amount of our efforts were gained through other resources (FB - FGJ for the historical info, MSM, blogs, videos for new info, etc.). A great deal of it was written & pieced together by us from countless resources...

Maybe I'm just being overly sensitive because the fact is we operate in a public community where information is shared... I guess I just feel disappointed. We spent so much time putting this together and someone just copies our posts and puts them onto their forum. If they like our work so much then why not join our efforts?

Sigh... I think I need a nap.
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have you contacted WS owners?
i know on another forum im at, if things are "stolen" they have a "legal take down notice" that is sent to the offending site!
 
Sonya610 said:
There was nothing frenzied about it, the ice pick stabs were hesitant at best. It was part of the show with no real emotion.

There won't be any animal cruelty charges added, that would just demean the human victim (which explains why crush films are made in Russia and China and no one gives darn, and why millions of companion animals are killed in U.S. "shelters" each year without receiving attention in the MSM). I didn't watch the kitten killing videos because I can't deal with that sort of thing, in case it isn't obvious I get very emotional on that topic.
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To me it seemed frenzied. Of course it is quite acceptable for you to disagree. You know what they say of all our opinions. Like *advertiser censored*******. I for one find that saying to be genius. Wonder who actually first came up with that.

OFF TOPIC>>>>

Incidentally, I worked at a county shelter back in the 80's, became a vegetarian in the 90's. I have several pets, all of which were abused severely at one time. One cat I have has permanent brain damage from 26 bird shots in his body and head, but he is quite happy and healthy now. And have a dog whose collar grew into his neck from owner neglect and I had to have it surgically removed after his rescue.

Also, I was associated with a group (whose name I cannot mention here) in the 90's that had to do with covertly investigating certain actions occurring on factory farms. So, you are preaching to the choir.

But, I understand what you are saying about animals. I did not view the kitten videos. Could'nt.
 
the video is darker than the song though the lines where he sings When I was a very small boy/Other small boys talked to me/Now that we've grown up together/They're afraid of what they see/ is significant.

It is possible to read the song in an innocuous way but I think the video shows that the writer is suspicious of the extraordinary feeling of liberty the "I" of the song celebrates. Transgression, libertinism, it's true they're potentially dangerous, the slippery slope.

When I first went to university authors especially French were celebrated some like G. Bataille wrote pornographic violent novels like The Eye at the same time they held prestigious jobs in his case as the national director of the museum of anthropology. They were fascinated with human sacrifice in cultures. De Sade was celebrated. I cautiously agree with a previous poster who asked us to look at our own fascination with the case, the element of "spectacle" and the dark primeval emotions even memories the case evokes in our delightful species *advertiser censored* Sapiens Sapiens (sic)

Not only this case of course.
 
Streets said:
2. I read awhile back in the thread that one of LM's fake accounts posted a "hypothetical" question similar to "If someone were to meet me through an app and kill me, could they just erase the app from my phone and no-one would know?" I don't know how to find that post, but that makes me think that they met through some phone dating app, and not craigslist.
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You may be thinking of one of my posts earlier in the thread about someone on the gay discussion forum DataLounge who had posted several messages that made it appear as if he had firsthand knowledge of LM and the crime. That person also posted on DataLounge to ask whether phone apps are traceable. However, those posts were all made in the past few days, after LM's arrest. And the same person has gone on to post several other weird messages on DataLounge that seem to indicate he is just a troll based in Texas who is making stuff up to get attention and has no connections to the case.
 
Jujercu said:
Sonya and Livingstone...the first thing I saw was narcissism..but I have a little experience with narcissism with someone very close in my personal life..so that stood out to me right away.
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Just saw this.

Yeah, if you know someone who is a narcissist, you can spot it a mile off. Same here with someone close to me.
 
prima.facie said:
i actually found that and sent to another member for our own personal discussion...i didnt even bother posting here, since we arent allowed to post the YT stuff anymore...

it is actually very ineresting to read and listen to the flame wars between LM and this guy....
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Ohh I'm new to this site and didn't know you wasn't suppose to post anything from youtube. I'm sorry, If someone can explain how to delete them, as I'm not sure, I will remove the two posts I made.
 
ccaudill0062 said:
Ohh I'm new to this site and didn't know you wasn't suppose to post anything from youtube. I'm sorry, If someone can explain how to delete them, as I'm not sure, I will remove the two posts I made.
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I think you can post a link to the YT page but we just cant copy and paste the comments.
 
ccaudill0062 said:
This isn't really about LM but I was on the account I mentioned in a previous post and seen a someone making this comment that there is a guy on youtube who I guess claims he knew Luka, and says he will outdo him. He has these videos talking about this book" The Lords of 2112", and a video of him supposedly channeling demons through himself and that person also provided a link to a video he believe is the same guy acting like he has killing a child, and putting parts into a bag and setting fire to it, the guy in video claims he is going to upload his snuff film to a website, it looks kinda fake to me but it scares me a little to think that she might be serious given that LM made claims like this and then really did it. The guys account is dmmjr1211976...and more videos on another account where they think it's the same guy and with some kind of meat parts in it && another with some kid crying in it is these on a account called Trolley Rulle


will someone check these out, idk if this guy is serious or just looking for attention but it's disturbing
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The guy is wearing underwear on his head. Definitely unbalanced.
 
livingstone said:
Just saw this.

Yeah, if you know someone who is a narcissist, you can spot it a mile off. Same here with someone close to me.
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My ex was a diagnosed Histrionic, which is the female version of a narcissist, and yes...once bitten you tend to be able to spot them a mile away. I agree that narcissism is one of Luka's disorders.
 
ccaudill0062 said:
Ohh I'm new to this site and didn't know you wasn't suppose to post anything from youtube. I'm sorry, If someone can explain how to delete them, as I'm not sure, I will remove the two posts I made.
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Yeah I was watching a video just now on his Trolley Rulle account where he says he is on the run and that the cops came looking for him and someone in his family let him know and claims to have kidnapped the kid in the other video and implies that he will have a video up soon, and at the end starts speaking like he is a demon...Idk if this guy is for real or not, but regardless he has some serious issues but it still scares me.
 
ccaudill0062 said:
Yeah I was watching a video just now on his Trolley Rulle account where he says he is on the run and that the cops came looking for him and someone in his family let him know and claims to have kidnapped the kid in the other video and implies that he will have a video up soon, and at the end starts speaking like he is a demon...Idk if this guy is for real or not, but regardless he has some serious issues but it still scares me.
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Can't watch it, not knowing there is a child involved :(


Welcome BTW :seeya:
 
Hate to sound all paranoid and such....

But some folks were worried about Luka posting here. They got all paranoid about other posters and such.

I am getting a bit paranoid about PETA members taking advantage of this story. Sociopathic PETA members...well I have 5 rescue dogs and one breeder bought Anatolian. None of us would be cool with being "liberated" and released from suffering if you get my meaning. None of us. It is kind of creepy.
 
A final thought IF anyone is interested....

What is the point to all this discussion?

Well IMHO, whether or not you watched the video, this is a case that instead of a victim that is afar off, there is an actual film of the victim. A real person who was flesh and blood and existed. Much different to see the victim in actual death than to read ABOUT him/her in a news story.

Even if you did not see the video, you know it is real and it exists. Perhaps someone close to you was a victim of a heinous crime. Either way it is a wake up call to further alert us, motivate us to alert our children in the digital age, and an opportunity to discuss with our children the very real danger that exists on the internet....and finally, to direct us as to what clues may be present online that point to any future crimes that may be similar.

I for one think LE will be more apt to take such things (on line clues) more seriously. That is REAL progress.

All those who put in the hours and efforts contribute to this cause.

Sometimes to stop an injustice, to educate and protect our children, (or ourselves) we must stare ugliness in the face and conquer it. We cannot do that with our eyes covered, even when it hurts. We may not fully understand, but that is not the point.


Just like with animal abuse, (included in the case) in this Magnotta case, there must be those brave enough to put aside emotion and stomach reality.

My heartfelt empathy goes to those who will have to study the full length video, (assuming it exists) those who watched the video in order to investigate, and those who know about the video.

You are no less or more of a person for watching or not watching. Facing reality may be just knowing of the video. Nonetheless, you are all very brave to be here.

Nice meeting you. Have to go soon.
 
PAXIMUS said:
Yea I dont see Luka as having the type of compulsion to murder like a Dahmer or Gacy who needed to kill for some strange reason within them, for Luka it was all about the production all for show, his compulsion was more about being known for something, anything, rather than a compulsion to kill and the same could be said about the kittens, I dont think he just killed them because he gets some sort of pleasure from killing animals but rather because it would get people's attention and for the shock value.
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LM killed to fill a void of a self he did not own or claim to be his, as opposed to other serial killers who possessed stronger senses of themselves, probably due to more stable upbringing which both Dahmer and Gacy had. This void was filled with fantasy - pop, media, film, internet - and through oblivion from the pain via drugs, alcohol and sex. He changed his body and face to become something he'd hoped he'd fit - like a Warhol pop icon - a James Dean, Madonna, a Luka - an icon that shined. He lacked remorse or a conscience, so deviant behavior made no impact on him. From incest with his step mother to selling his body to bestiality to cannibalism. They were all aspects of becoming someone, claiming a self that stood out among the crowd and to become that self, anything was fair game.
 
PETA is a bit on the far side. I came in contact on occasion with members. IMO, it's a cult that can often do more damage to the cause than good.

Although animal life has great value, still human beings are unique.

Some would consider animal life to be superior to that of a human.


Sure do wonder what happened to the dog in the video though.

I am going to check out the FB that guy here posted before I sign off this evening. (Thanks for the link)
 
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