Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #20

epiphany said:

Yeah, probably teaching him to be a better socio/psychop.

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epiphany said:

LOL Yeah, you heard correctly. However...Possibly.

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Sanny said:

I remember very early when the father of Stephany stated that she had DNA under her fingernail(s)......so he must've been privvy to much evidence then.

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Sanny said:

Lord, I would hate to see him live in a cushy cell in Aruba or Holland......

Alcatraz would be the place for this guy........or Devil's Island....surrounded by sharks.......

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Carrington said:

Wasn't this also the same time he said they would exhume the body for more testing? Cause I do remember that!
IMO

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Sanny said:

Do ya think his Columbian cellmate is coaching him as to what to do regarding "don't talk to the police or judge?"

It was mentioned tonight on NG that Clown did the same thing......refused to answer the judge.

Jailhouse lawyering........

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Columbo said:

bolded by me.

It sounds like it!

If so, do you think The Hitman speaks English ? I doubt it. Therefore, if Joran has been talking to him, it would have to be in Spanish which he alleges to not understand. Um m hmmmm...Of course, this is just speculation based on an assumption which could be wrong.

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Sanny said:

I think the pants were taken off AFTER he murdered her.....sneaker first so that he could remove the jeans easier. Therefore no tearing or rips in the jeans at all.

If the crime happened in the hallway, on the tiles, that would be easily cleaned by wiping it up as apposed to the carpet...just saying.
Also if she was bleeding from the nose and the head fracture....he could have used the shirt to sop up that blood if he moved her to the bedroom....somehow I'm still going with the bedroom crime and not the hallway......she may have tried to escape but he could've dragged her by her hair back into the bedroom area......

MOO is that she definitely didn't go to his room for a trist....sexual act or anything like that. He got her there under a guise of 'let me show you my laptop poker business'.
All the while his intentions was to rob her of her winnings.....Money was first and foremost on his mind.........I don't think he thought she would put up such a fight.....but she fought for her life.

RIP Stephany Tatiana

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epiphany said:

Have we always known about her 4 by 4 black sports car? Or was that new info this evening?

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mck16 said:

I personally think that is crucial. It was certainly make it possible to report with better information. I don't understand how so many different stories are out there about the whole thing.

NG was reporting last night that he killed her after he came back from getting coffee. Why don't they look at the time stamps on the videos? Drives me nuts. I want to see something new. Websleuths needs a t.v. show, no a whole channel. jmo

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justus4all said:

I like your theory...Could it be possible he took off her shoes..in order to take off her pants..then pretend to be locked out and get the staff to unlock the door..then hoping the staff sees Step on the floor..and Joran claims SOMEONE else came in, tried to rape her..(pants off) then killed her...He could have "staged" her pants being off for his ""going for coffee alibi"..which didn't work...If this has already been discussed (the pants off due to staging an attempted rape and murder of her) then I apologize since I have not caught up on all the posts...Anyway, that is my theory her pants are off..

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epiphany said:

Have we always known about her 4 by 4 black sports car? Or was that new info this evening?

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Sanny said:

Joran.....'I was tricked' > 'I was lured by the FBI' bla bla bla

Next if things goes against him......'My lawyer is and undercover FBI agent' and so is the Judge.'

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Kamille said:

I thought this was in the press early on. I believe you can see the vehicle in the casino video of Stephany entering the casino after she has parked it. For some reason I knew she had a black SUV but I can't remember where I read it. :waitasec:

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epiphany said:

Can't imagine what the room looked like before his big cleanup. He couldn't get much outta there. Goal must have been cleanup to attempt to match to w/e "confession" he would try to sell when caught. Couldn't do much else under the circumstances and conditions of the room.

A bottom line - his confession, his story does not match the crime scene photos. And that's without the forensic evidence, etc.

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KR2tonenow said:

Right, JVDS is sounding a little paranoid, isn't he?

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