WH Court Hearing 11 May-GJ 20 May, Indicted on Six Charges

More coming out - mark your calendars for next Wednesday. In listening to the various media, it does not appear he is facing any charges directly related to Anjelica's death.

When is the toxicology report due again??? Argh!

http://www.13newsnow.com/story/news...-court-on-obstruction-other-charges/27109821/
Thank you, all for all the links. From Ms. Robertson's report on 13News Now about court today

He's handing the card to the evidence bagger, no gloves on.
 

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Good to know. Guess I'll go shoplift a lobster for dinner. If I get caught, I'll just say I didn't intend to commit a crime.


They need proof of intent for certain crimes and not others. B&E is one of those and that's pretty universal in every state.


WHAT ON EARTH!! Someone please explain this to me anyone. So in Virgina I could break into your house if I wasnt going to commit a crime??? Well excuse me I thought breaking into a house was a crime. No? And Wes was reportedly in the AB?
WAAAAAHHH!! I'm stopping now before I say something regrettable!!


For a crime to be breaking and entering, certain elements need to be present. If they can't prove intent, it's not B&E but it would likely be another crime like trespassing.


I believe the statute says that breaking and entering is entering a structure with the intent to commit a crime. The judge believed there wasn't evidence that WH was there to commit a crime... he was trying to find a jacket. Not saying it is right - just how I think it is interpreted.


That's pretty much it. Except it's not necessarily that the judge believed there wasn't evidence of intent. But just not enough evidence of intent.


Trying to plant a jacket.
IMO


Yup. I agree. I they had sufficient I evidence that this guy broke into the house with the intent to obstruct justice by planting evidence, they could get him for B&E. But I guess they didn't. Either that or obstruction of justice is not one of the crimes in Virginia that supports a B&E charge.

Also, the break element may be key here but I'm not sure. If a door is open and someone enters it is not considering "breaking".


Cool.


I'm having trouble paying my rent, feeding myself and paying my bills this month. I think I'll go rob a bank and just tell the judge that I "had" to do it. "I didn't mean it, your honor!!"

The judge didnt dismiss the charge because he found WH had no choice or good reasons to do what he did. They were dismissed, apparently, for lack of evidence of intent to commit a crime once inside.


I think if they had evidence of that - it would make it breaking and entering. Perhaps they don't have any evidence that he was planting evidence?


The statute...


If any person break and enter a dwelling house while said dwelling is occupied, either in the day or nighttime, with the intent to commit any misdemeanor except assault and battery or trespass, he shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony. However, if the person was armed with a deadly weapon at the time of such entry, he shall be guilty of a Class 2 felony.
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So, I could enter your house to get out of the rain and not be committing a crime. That sounds wrong. Perhaps I am wrong.

You're pretty much right. Except if you broke into a house to get out of the rain it would a still be a crime. Just a different one-trespassing.
 
They need proof of intent for certain crimes and not others. B&E is one of those and that's pretty universal in every state.





For a crime to be breaking and entering, certain elements need to be present. If they can't prove intent, it's not B&E but it would likely be another crime like trespassing.





That's pretty much it. Except it's not necessarily that the judge believed there wasn't evidence of intent. But just not enough evidence of intent.





Yup. I agree. I they had sufficient I evidence that this guy broke into the house with the intent to obstruct justice by planting evidence, they could get him for B&E. But I guess they didn't. Either that or obstruction of justice is not one of the crimes in Virginia that supports a B&E charge.

Also, the break element may be key here but I'm not sure. If a door is open and someone enters it is not considering "breaking".




The judge didnt dismiss the charge because he found WH had no choice or good reasons to do what he did. They were dismissed, apparently, for lack of evidence of intent to commit a crime once inside.




You're pretty much right. Except if you broke into a house to get out of the rain it would a still be a crime. Just a different one-trespassing.
Thank you so much, Gitana! I'm glad to know that going into someone else's house can still be a crime, albeit trespassing instead of b&e. That really bothered me!

Do you know if a grand jury can indict for additional charges? Could they add on trespassing?
 
Maybe they just have more than they really need with all the other charges to keep him in Jail for a long time.
Maybe they are just choosing their battles.
He is a convicted felon he is in trouble again .

Just my thoughts!
 
Maybe they just have more than they really need with all the other charges to keep him in Jail for a long time.
Maybe they are just choosing their battles.
He is a convicted felon he is in trouble again .

Just my thoughts!

Thanks Eileen and Gitana that makes sense, Its a shame more serious charges were not filed yesterday.
Justice for AJ.


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Thank you so much, Gitana! I'm glad to know that going into someone else's house can still be a crime, albeit trespassing instead of b&e. That really bothered me!

Do you know if a grand jury can indict for additional charges? Could they add on trespassing?

I can't see the point, really. It would, on its own, be unlikely to receive much jail time if any, or add to another sentence for other charges. Jmo
 
So... was the first piece of the credit card that Corey found just left right in front of his house?
 
I can't see the point, really. It would, on its own, be unlikely to receive much jail time if any, or add to another sentence for other charges. Jmo

If I am not mistaken, the grand jury can return any number of charges and be used as a tool for an investigation.

You may see a murder charge (or several) come out of the grand jury proceedings. May cause things to get really quiet for a month or so though.
 
Thanks Eileen and Gitana that makes sense, Its a shame more serious charges were not filed yesterday.
Justice for AJ.


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Oh they are a coming!
 
I believe the part about watching WH put ammo in the ceiling it actually in the video portion of the WTKR news segment. The video has more details.

http://wtkr.com/2015/05/11/judge-di...ey-hadsell-four-others-will-go-to-grand-jury/

There is also more information about who said what in court today in the Wavy10 video you linked (I think). You may have to watch the video at the links to find the content mentioned.

HTH. I had missed it early because I was only reading the article.

Just watched it and bookmarked it. Thank you.

I noticed that the reporter stated that he found AJs jacket as if it has been confirmed that it was AJs. I wonder if it has been confirmed, or if it's just an error in reporting as so often happens. If it IS AJs jacket, I believe 100 percent that he planted it.

I also noticed the body language, facial movement of Wesley Hadsell being escorted back out of the courtroom. He's sweating his return to prison. IMO JMO

Transcript by rev.com of the interview. I have to see it in black and white.

http://wtkr.com/2015/05/11/judge-di...ey-hadsell-four-others-will-go-to-grand-jury/

Speaker 1:Wesley Hadsell was previously a member of the Aryan Brotherhood and was using cocaine to get back into the gang. Those are accusations that were revealed in court today. Wesley is the adoptive father of Angelica "AJ" Hadsell, a Norfolk teen who was found dead last month. News Channel 3's Marissa Jasek has the story.
Marissa Jasek:Wesley Hadsell broke into a woman's home, found his missing daughter's jacket, and tried to hide the truth from police by threatening others. Those are accusations prosecutors made in court today, where Wesley faces several felony charges. All connected to his adoptive daughter, AJ's, disappearance. In all, 4 witnesses testified today. Their statements helped lay out a timeline leading up to Wesley's arrest.
It starts March 5th, 3 days into the search for AJ. That day, the Commonwealth says a man named Corey French found part of AJ's debit card. French lived at the house Wesley is accused of breaking into on Halprin Drive, a block from the Hadsell home. The next day, March 6th, 18 year old Andre Barr, who lives at the Hadsell home, testified that Wesley admitted to the break in, finding AJ's Longwood University jacket stuffed behind a couch cushion, and leaving it out for Barr to find. That night, Barr says Wesley told him and others about the break-in and said if they told police, they "would be dealt with." Then March 8th, Barr goes to this hotel off East Little Creek, where Wesley was living. There, Barr says he watched Wesley hide bullets in an AC vent and listened for hours as Wesley talked about his violent criminal past and wish to once again join the Aryan Brotherhood.
The Commonwealth believes this testimony shows Wesley's repeated attempt to manipulate and intimidate witnesses. Barr admits he first told police he found AJ's jacket but later changed his story, telling investigators it was Wesley all along. The break in charge was dismissed, though. The judge ruled prosecutors couldn't prove intent. His other 5 felony charges will go to a grand jury next week.
In Norfolk, Marissa Jasek, News Channel 3.

Edited to add transcript quote. Thanks 4freespeech!
 
They need proof of intent for certain crimes and not others. B&E is one of those and that's pretty universal in every state.





For a crime to be breaking and entering, certain elements need to be present. If they can't prove intent, it's not B&E but it would likely be another crime like trespassing.





That's pretty much it. Except it's not necessarily that the judge believed there wasn't evidence of intent. But just not enough evidence of intent.





Yup. I agree. I they had sufficient I evidence that this guy broke into the house with the intent to obstruct justice by planting evidence, they could get him for B&E. But I guess they didn't. Either that or obstruction of justice is not one of the crimes in Virginia that supports a B&E charge.

Also, the break element may be key here but I'm not sure. If a door is open and someone enters it is not considering "breaking".




The judge didnt dismiss the charge because he found WH had no choice or good reasons to do what he did. They were dismissed, apparently, for lack of evidence of intent to commit a crime once inside.




You're pretty much right. Except if you broke into a house to get out of the rain it would a still be a crime. Just a different one-trespassing.

Thank you gitana for explaining this. It makes more sense now. And thanks Lilibet for bringing that link.
My questions now are who owned the jacket? If it was AJs then I firmly believe it was planted by Wes. If it wasn't hers and did in fact belong to CFs girlfriend then I just don't get it.
Don't know if this is the right thread to ask this question so mods let me know if it's not and I'll post it elsewhere. Who do you guys think owned the jacket found in the house?
 
More coming out - mark your calendars for next Wednesday. In listening to the various media, it does not appear he is facing any charges directly related to Anjelica's death.

When is the toxicology report due again??? Argh!

http://www.13newsnow.com/story/news...-court-on-obstruction-other-charges/27109821/

In that video the reporter said that WH talked to witness, AB about wanting to get "back into" the Aryan Brotherhood, a gang prosecutors say he has been affiliated with before.
 
This one?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tll_DccWAnjsCgnvMktbb7HXTh7CK6Gkxh8C3PLn0No/edit

WH: This person said that they had been there for over a week and they had called before - they left a tip or whatever, message, or whatever. Maybe not spoke to someone but via message. The lady was older - she sounded like she may have been coming back from work. That’s the way she made me believe. She said was it was by a road leading nowhere, that there was a gas station at the end of it. It’s that.. it’s not the gas station – theres a gas station right past that road, but the road she was referencing was the toll road, and if you go past at nighttime it looks like a gas station from afar. Okay, if I had known that I would have known exactly what it was... blahblahblah.

This has always bothered me. There is no way that the toll booths on the toll road look like a gas station. Never and no way. I have been meaning to say this before, but was always side tracked. Not that it matters at this late date.
 
They need proof of intent for certain crimes and not others. B&E is one of those and that's pretty universal in every state.





For a crime to be breaking and entering, certain elements need to be present. If they can't prove intent, it's not B&E but it would likely be another crime like trespassing.





That's pretty much it. Except it's not necessarily that the judge believed there wasn't evidence of intent. But just not enough evidence of intent.





Yup. I agree. I they had sufficient I evidence that this guy broke into the house with the intent to obstruct justice by planting evidence, they could get him for B&E. But I guess they didn't. Either that or obstruction of justice is not one of the crimes in Virginia that supports a B&E charge.

Also, the break element may be key here but I'm not sure. If a door is open and someone enters it is not considering "breaking".




The judge didnt dismiss the charge because he found WH had no choice or good reasons to do what he did. They were dismissed, apparently, for lack of evidence of intent to commit a crime once inside.




You're pretty much right. Except if you broke into a house to get out of the rain it would a still be a crime. Just a different one-trespassing.

Thank you, Gitana1, great of you to explain. :daisy:
 
In that video the reporter said that WH talked to witness, AB about wanting to get "back into" the Aryan Brotherhood, a gang prosecutors say he has been affiliated with before.

I do believe Wes was involved with the AB while in prison. It is extremely common for that to happen. But it was clearly on a very low level. Probably paying for protection etc. He has made it out to the "friends of AJ" that he was more important and that his drug dealing was for the AB to try and scare them IMO.
He has zero power or connection to make something bad happen to anyone who speaks against him and he has put himself in a bad position when he is sentenced. You do not use these people to threaten others unless you are in a position to do so. Any investigation will put heat on someone who won't be happy. He should request PC because whoever he was selling drugs for might be real AB and they won't take chances with Wes loose lips. All my own opinion.
 
It's just shutdown city out there today - maybe quiet before the storm? Speaking of, I was at the beach last weekend and I thought of AJ often, sadly I thought about the things she won't get to do now. Also, there was a gorgeous wedding going on at the Jekyll Island Club Hotel. *sigh* Justice for AJ~
 

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