AL - Karen Shahan, 53, murdered, Homewood, 23 July 2013 #1

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Blondie in Spokane said:
I've gone thru all the posted articles on this thread....am not finding any rumors/comments other than from the first day this was posted....very few otherwise. maybe it's because I use an IPad and a lot of content is unavailable?
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That is not the reason you are not seeing any rumors in this thread. There is no talk about the rumors because they can't be shared yet. But it's not rocket science.
 
Angelonline said:
Cherry, that's not the obit. That's an article already posted with quotes from another pastor. Did you post the wrong link?
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Actually I wanted to post the full links site, which is here, it's where her whole congregation worshipped after her death. So; yes! I meant to put her obit, lol. Instead I'm going to post this link which links to many articles.


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url]http://topics.al.com/tag/Karen%20Louise%20Shahan/index.html[/url]

AL.com Obit
http://obits.al.com/obituaries/birmingham/obituary.aspx?n=karen-l-shahan&pid=166050997#fbLoggedOut



Obit on churches website:
http://fbcbirmingham.org/
 
BrianInBirmingham said:
That is not the reason you are not seeing any rumors in this thread. There is no talk about the rumors because they can't be shared yet. But it's not rocket science.
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I know we can't post them here...I'm just trying to figure out where they are. Like I mentioned they are not linked to any articles posted here so far.

Obviously I've been here (websleuths) a long time and know the rules. Just trying to keep up with everyone else on this thread.
 
Aww, her poor grandchildren. Everybody needs their Grammy!
 
Hey guys I am not in charge of this thread, but if you are posting speculation about family members, or sleuthing unrelated people or posting unauthorized links then you are violating our TOS. We at WS do consider the family as victims unless the police tell us otherwise. We do not allow sleuthing of anyone unless they are named as a POI or Suspect. So please go back and edit your posts, I would hate to see anyone get a time out.
 
And please, please do not link to FB pages that have small children. It's against TOS. Because there is not a lot of information about this crime please do not start looking in areas we are not permitted to go. :please:
 
Angelonline said:
Hey guys I am not in charge of this thread, but if you are posting speculation about family members, or sleuthing unrelated people or posting unauthorized links then you are violating our TOS. We at WS do consider the family as victims unless the police tell us otherwise. We do not allow sleuthing of anyone unless they are named as a POI or Suspect. So please go back and edit your posts, I would hate to see anyone get a time out.
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Trust me, Lambchop has an eagle eye on this thread. It's clean as a whistle and then some!
 
Remember also not to quote posts with iffy links. (Which - d'oh! - I just did awhile ago, mea culpa.) Doubles work for mods when cleaning up.
 
BrianInBirmingham said:
Please cite where you received the information that Church Officials or anyone from the Church discovered Ms. Shahan's body... or called 911. I can find nothing to support this. This information would change my whole outlook on this but I can't find it. If you find the article, please link it and quote the actual sentences in the reply.
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She was found late morning July 23 by church officials after not showing up for a previously scheduled appointment and work.
http://www.thealabamabaptist.org/pri...9&pricat_art=1
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The quote below is consistent with it being church officials who alerted LE after they found Karen's body in the Shahan home..
Quote: Shortly after 11am officers responded to a report of a dead body in the Shahan home.
http://www.wset.com/story/22931651/h...ation-thursdaY
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I'm curious as to what/how your entire outlook of the case would change if you found that the info in my post was in fact legitimate due to your having found nothing to support my claims.. With the info now sourced/cited what/how does it change your entire outlook on the case?.. I don't see how it could:waitasec:
 
SapphireSteel said:
I've read the opposite. :waitasec:


Police responded to the Shahan home at 102 Hugh Circle after co-workers called, concerned after Karen Shahan didn't show up for work at Hobby Lobby.

Officers found Shahan's body on her couch around 11:15 a.m. Tuesday. Homewood police haven't yet said how she died, but said it was apparent someone killed her.

I read that the co-worker who was originally concerned was Mrs Shahan's mother, but I can't find the link. Mrs Shahan didn't appear to pick her mom up as scheduled (I assume they worked together) nor did she answer the phone so she called the Hobby Lobby who in turn called LE, who then went to the house and found her.

http://www.myfoxal.com/story/22920282/coroner-identifies-woman-found-dead-in-homewood
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Exactly..Hence the entire reason for my questioning which reporting is true.. or did both happen as I droned on about upthread regarding her coworkers and church officials becoming worried and/or alarmed about Karen Tuesday morning..

With so little info at all its difficult to know anything for certain, but that's just the way it goes and in the end as long as LE "knows" and has enough to prove what they know..

I certainly hope Karen's case comes to a quick resolve for the sake of her loved ones and community.
 
I think it's possible that some of the people she worked with might also be affiliated in some way with the church.
For instance, church elders or deacons are usually volunteer positions. These church officials would also have a regular job or business. Hobby lobby is a business with a Christian mission statement. That's why they close on Sunday. I would think that it would be the type of business that other church members would choose to work for.

MOO
 
Do we know if Karen accompanied her husband on his two Church trips to Kazahktan in the last year and if she would have been going with him this year as well?

The May 2013 church newsletter talks about it and about welcoming a visitor to the church on May 22, the person with whom he is doing some translating and other work with.

http://fbcbirmingham.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/MAY-NEWSLETTER.pdf

Maybe Hobby Lobby gives people time-off for ministerial trips?
 
This report says "a friend" called the police when she couldn't reach Karen. It also indicates that the staff at Hobby Lobby didn't know anything until a family member called them. Maybe the family member's call prompted co-workers to call police? Not sure if that makes sense. http://www.cbs42.com/2013/07/23/body-found-in-homewood-prompts-homicide-investigation/

This report tells of a neighbor hearing a "loud thud" around 11 p.m. on Monday night. I hadn't seen that reported elsewhere. http://www.cbs42.com/2013/07/25/karen-shahan-murder-investigation-continues/

The lack of comments or communication from both the LE and the community does seem odd to me. It's a heartbreaking occurrence and I would expect to see more of an outpouring from the community -- maybe it's there but just not showing up in the online world.
 
yes, I agree with those about there likely is a meshing of the Hobby Lobby employees and the church[officials].. and that it was likely a combination of both her coworkers(who could also be church members) and church officials that upon their sharing the info of Karen's not showing for work/appt Tuesday morning with each other is what led to the growing concern of Karen's well being..

Re: requesting link for Karen's mom being a coworker. I am not requesting sleuthing the family, I am requesting that the info upthread be backed with a link or completely omitted altogether.
 
StellarBlu said:
This report says "a friend" called the police when she couldn't reach Karen. It also indicates that the staff at Hobby Lobby didn't know anything until a family member called them. Maybe the family member's call prompted co-workers to call police? Not sure if that makes sense. http://www.cbs42.com/2013/07/23/body-found-in-homewood-prompts-homicide-investigation/

This report tells of a neighbor hearing a "loud thud" around 11 p.m. on Monday night. I hadn't seen that reported elsewhere. http://www.cbs42.com/2013/07/25/karen-shahan-murder-investigation-continues/

The lack of comments or communication from both the LE and the community does seem odd to me. It's a heartbreaking occurrence and I would expect to see more of an outpouring from the community -- maybe it's there but just not showing up in the online world.
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I read that about a day or 2 after it happened and had not been able to find the link where I read it. I have searched and searched for it so thank you but I clicked on the link you provided and I didn't see it there either. If you go back to the first 2 pages you'll see where I posted that I read this but couldn't find the link.
 
Welcome StellarBlu!

Thanks for the links as it is "news" to me as well especially about a neighbor saying they heard a loud "thud" Monday night..
 
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