trial thread: 3/28/2012

JayFriend said:

So the woman cleaned the shoes so she could donate them to the Sally Ann. When I clean running shoes, I remove the laces and throw everything in the washing machine. Obviously, she didn't even unlace them. It's possible forensics did find DNA, since they were only cleaned superficially. We will see. However, TLM has already confessed to kicking Tori and lacing her shoes that particular way. Nothing new here, just confirming what we've learned.

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Allanae said:

Scheduling conflict probably means the Judge had a tee time booked
Friday looks like it will be a busy filled day. I am sure the jury is enjoying the breaks.

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Kamille said:

Actually I found it interesting that they established that TLM was telling the truth about throwing out shoes. They were found (by Lillian) where she said they would be.

The fact that Lillian only found her shoes is intriguing to me. Especially since we know that MR was back out in the area within days of the murder. If TLM was going to try to lead LE to the shoes, why would she lie and say both pairs were thrown out? Why not just say nothing about the shoes if it was only hers and there might be incriminating blood stains on them? She was the one that said there was no blood splatter at the scene from the actual murder.

And we don't know what kind of shoes MR was wearing but they may have been missed by people who knew him if they were distinctive. Like his mother, or Amanda, or any of his other friends.

TLM's were distinctive too but she made excuses to her mother about where her clothes went.

MOO

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~n/t~ said:

Actually juries like to get back to their "normal" lives as soon as possible, imo.

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McClintic testified that, as they drove away from the scene of Stafford's death, she took off her shoes and threw them out of the car window into a field along Sideroad 6. Police eventually found those shoes (picture 1).
She also claims that she and Rafferty stopped at a convenience store in Cambridge that night, separately using the washroom to change their clothes. McClintic testifed that Rafferty gave her his white Puma shoes, basketball shorts and t-shirt to change into, packed into a blue gym bag. Police found items matching those descriptions in McClintic's home when they executed a search warrant after her arrest (pictures 2 and 3).

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antiquegirl said:

I'm wondering if MTR went back for the shoes, why he would remove his, but not TLM's. One could speculate all sorts of things about this, but IMO, he would have taken away both pairs.

It's too bad Lillian couldn't remember the exact date of when she found the shoes. The closer to the abduction date, the less likely MTR had time to look and find them.

They threw other clothes and evidence into a dumpster and garbage can at the car wash. It must have seemed like a sound decision at the time. MTR would have had to go back to retrieve those pretty quickly, as those containers get emptied often. Daily? Every second day? Weekly? Regardless, I think he was safer leaving them there than being spotted dumpster diving, opening garbage bags at a car wash. That would be pretty conspicuous (and disgusting) and he'd have a lot to answer for if questioned.

It's my personal opinion only that MTR did not go back to retrieve any evidence. Why make the decision to throw shoes out the car window and other evidence into the garbage at the car wash, only to risk going back to find them? Then what? He'd just have to dispose of them again.

JMO

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The materials showed that there was a connection between McDonald and McClintic before Stafford's disappearance. One piece of evidence was a portion of a CD album cover with the telephone number of McDonald and her boyfriend James Goris scribbled on it (picture 1). The next was a ripped off flap from a cigarette pack with their address on it (picture 2).

McDonald told the court the writing on the album cover was hers, the writing on the other item was not.
She says she and McClintic both had shih tzus and had discussed breeding them; and that McClintic's mother, Carol would often sell OxyContin to Goris.

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Oldsoul2 said:

He doesn't care about her shoes, he cared about his shoes. He doesn't care that she was there, he cares to prove that he wasn't. That didn't work out too well for him in the end but what this is screaming is TLM did tell the truth so far about what happened that day and that is what the prosecution is trying to rely to the jury. The whole defense is based on only her and not him, if they can show, with solid evidence that alot of what she said panned out and is true, than the jury will realize the defense theory is hogwash.

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Wondergirl said:

3 Video's here of MTR at the Bank Machines.

He's wearing the black pea coat, AND a scarf, in the morning ATM video.

He just has a white shirt on in the Petro Video at 4:30 pm.

Just a hoody on the 3rd Video from April 9th. No appearance of a cold sore yet.

http://www.newstalk1010.com/blog/raffertyevidence/blogentry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10364674

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~n/t~ said:

Wonder if MR went back to retrieve some of the "evidence"? Maybe the blackberry he loves so much will show us where he was in the days following Tori's murder until he was arrested?:moo:

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