Canada - Marie-France Comeau, 37, & Jessica Lloyd, 27, slain, Ont, 2009 & 2010 - #2

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As for the aerial search, they did not search into the Tweed area- only by jessica's house, as there was an immediate response to want to search her area, as well as other related streets such as harmony, which extends fully into Shannonville. The helicopters didn't extend their search beyond this, and was called off shortly after finding nothing.

Also Tweed has some random back roads, much like any other small community would. It would have taken awhile to end up on Cary Road, JMO.


I find it interesting he lived in Deep River as a child, I lived very close to there at one point and there is a very weird vibe in the air. Anyone from that area knows Deep River has some strangeness there. My father actually said "oh, well that explains a lot". My thoughts exactly, but I am just confused as to why he would kill (if indeed he has killed before), and then went to assaulting, and then back to killing. Do murderers/rapists usually go backwards? I find that so odd.

OH, and in my neck of the woods- a hunting camp, or cabin= same thing. Generally sits back from the road, has no electricity or very little, has a bed, a stove, (sometimes just a coleman stove!) a sink, a table and a whole wack of games! I have spent many a day in them, it's quite nice actually.

Do you know who would have authorized the military helicopter search area?
 
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I can't say for sure, but most people in the area refer to their hunting cabins as "hunting camps", but since the hunting season is mainly in the fall and winter they consist (normally) of small cabins, often with a wood stove, sometimes electricity, sometimes not. Tents don't cut it around here especially after you reach a certain age.

I am not sure why, but I don't think that he took her there. I believe that he took her back to his cottage, and that she was still alive when she got there. The sexual assaults lasted for a number of hours (or so it has been reported) and this would have allowed him more time without being spotted. Marie's assault and subsequent murder appear to have a shorter time frame but perhaps when they say "her death was unintentional" it means she wasn't supposed to come home, that it was a panty theft gone bad. The forensics team was not camped out at Jessica's house long enough for the crime scene to have been there, nor was it reported that they found a smoking gun there....Not that they report much of anything that is accurate. But that is just my opinion. Call it a hunch.

I hope I am using the QUOTE function properly. I'll give this a shot---I am wondering IF the murder victims JL and MFC were sexually assaulted? Then, I am also wondering if they JL and MFC were murdered by RW because they somehow could identify him? The other victims lived to tell their story but could not identify the attacker because both the victims and attackers had pillowcases over their heads.
 
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RW left Deep River at age 7 or 8. Margaret M. would have been either 4 or 5 years old at the time. If they knew each other back then, it's unlikely they'd remember each other when they were adults. Also, I think the only way the two kids could have been connected would be through their parents. Yet, Margaret's parents have no recollection of him.

"Despite the proximity, they say their daughter and Williams did not know each other as children."

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...ver&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a


In order to appreciate the Deep River connection to the RW case, one has to understand the nature of this picturesque community situated on the Ottawa River about mid-way between North Bay and Ottawa on Highway 17 (the transcanada). This town's population is small--about 5,000 people. It is a planned community to house the employees of the nearby nuclear research facility, Atomic Energy of Canada Limited, located down-river about 4 miles. I am giving this information to let people understand that everyone in Deep River is pretty educated (scientists, engineers, technicians and support staff) and everyone lives, plays and works together. Therefore---it is not such a coincidence that people could move in the same social circles and know each other by name. Everyone mixed---it is a very unique little place with a sophisticated and high functioning group of residents--who come to work there from all over.

If--RW had anything to do with MMcW; rape and murder---it is of note that both are from Deep River and IMO that could have been a opening to further conversation and then disarmed MMcW to render her a victim. JMO--If I remember correctly MMcW was jogging by herself wearing headphones----so this may not have been the case. More likely she was taken by surprise--due to the headphones. RW---did sneak in and take his victims by surprise--from the sounds of the reports. So the Deep River connection with MMcW could be just a coincidence??

Deep River connection will certainly come up when RW's background gets examined because he spent his early formative years there and his parenting and their marital instability will be examined to try to explain his adult behavior---however is there an explanation for behavior like his or is he just plain EVIL???
 
Some recent developments have me wondering about this case:

1. Brigadier-General and military chaplain Roger Bazin's sex-related charges; and

2. RW's choice of Michael Edelson as his lawyer. This is the lawyer who is defending Bishop Raymond Lahey. He is the Catholic priest who was charged in Ottawa on possession of child *advertiser censored* after returning on an overseas flight. Bishop Lahey was instrumental in a $13 million settlement of a class-action sex-abuse lawsuit in Nova Scotia. There is plenty of information about this person on the internet; and

3. Cornwall, which is in the Quinte region. Brighton, Trenton and Belleville are also in the Quinte region. The Cornwall Inquiry is also well-documented officially and unofficially on the internet.
 
In order to appreciate the Deep River connection to the RW case, one has to understand the nature of this picturesque community situated on the Ottawa River about mid-way between North Bay and Ottawa on Highway 17 (the transcanada). This town's population is small--about 5,000 people. It is a planned community to house the employees of the nearby nuclear research facility, Atomic Energy of Canada Limited, located down-river about 4 miles. I am giving this information to let people understand that everyone in Deep River is pretty educated (scientists, engineers, technicians and support staff) and everyone lives, plays and works together. Therefore---it is not such a coincidence that people could move in the same social circles and know each other by name. Everyone mixed---it is a very unique little place with a sophisticated and high functioning group of residents--who come to work there from all over.

If--RW had anything to do with MMcW; rape and murder---it is of note that both are from Deep River and IMO that could have been a opening to further conversation and then disarmed MMcW to render her a victim. JMO--If I remember correctly MMcW was jogging by herself wearing headphones----so this may not have been the case. More likely she was taken by surprise--due to the headphones. RW---did sneak in and take his victims by surprise--from the sounds of the reports. So the Deep River connection with MMcW could be just a coincidence??

Deep River connection will certainly come up when RW's background gets examined because he spent his early formative years there and his parenting and their marital instability will be examined to try to explain his adult behavior---however is there an explanation for behavior like his or is he just plain EVIL???

Don't forget that Deep River has its own zombie horror movie, for real:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1557197/

It was also part of the David Lynch movies "Blue Velvet" and "Mulholland Drive":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_River,_Ontario
 
As for the aerial search, they did not search into the Tweed area- only by jessica's house, as there was an immediate response to want to search her area, as well as other related streets such as harmony, which extends fully into Shannonville. The helicopters didn't extend their search beyond this, and was called off shortly after finding nothing.

Also Tweed has some random back roads, much like any other small community would. It would have taken awhile to end up on Cary Road, JMO.


I find it interesting he lived in Deep River as a child, I lived very close to there at one point and there is a very weird vibe in the air. Anyone from that area knows Deep River has some strangeness there. My father actually said "oh, well that explains a lot". My thoughts exactly, but I am just confused as to why he would kill (if indeed he has killed before), and then went to assaulting, and then back to killing. Do murderers/rapists usually go backwards? I find that so odd.

OH, and in my neck of the woods- a hunting camp, or cabin= same thing. Generally sits back from the road, has no electricity or very little, has a bed, a stove, (sometimes just a coleman stove!) a sink, a table and a whole wack of games! I have spent many a day in them, it's quite nice actually.

It would be useful if you could be specific about "strangeness of Deep River"?? It has a very unique history--but I don't know what you mean--if you actually mean anything useful by "strangeness"? Otherwise I think your choice of words regarding the community of Deep River is very inappropriate and meaningless to any useful conversation about this case?
 
EDIT: Sorry, but I just read the entire article and I've sort of changed my mind. Having read the rest of it, I now think maybe the dates could be a journalistic error. Hazel, do you feel like writing to the Northhumberland News and asking for a clarification? If not, I could do it on Friday. If this is indeed a mistake, it's a huge one and should be corrected.

(Snippin' and quoting myself)

I couldn't resist early this morning and e-mailed the Northhumberland News for clarification. Just got the following reply:

The dates are correct. I believe OPP are trying to establish the deceased's whereabouts in the days before she was murdered in hopes that someone may have seen her with someone.
Thank you,
J***** B*******
News Editor


HTH
 
I am noticing a lot of the news articles are closed to commenting ? Anyone else notice this.
 
I am noticing a lot of the news articles are closed to commenting ? Anyone else notice this.

Yes, I have. I believe they're trying to prevent possible "inside information" from leaking out and jeopardizing the investigation. Also, rampant speculation on news sites can lead to rumours being remembered as facts later on. We've seen it happen here often at WS.

JMO
 
Some recent developments have me wondering about this case:

1. Brigadier-General and military chaplain Roger Bazin's sex-related charges; and

2. RW's choice of Michael Edelson as his lawyer. This is the lawyer who is defending Bishop Raymond Lahey. He is the Catholic priest who was charged in Ottawa on possession of child *advertiser censored* after returning on an overseas flight. Bishop Lahey was instrumental in a $13 million settlement of a class-action sex-abuse lawsuit in Nova Scotia. There is plenty of information about this person on the internet; and

3. Cornwall, which is in the Quinte region. Brighton, Trenton and Belleville are also in the Quinte region. The Cornwall Inquiry is also well-documented officially and unofficially on the internet.

I am not sure if I am reading this correctly, but just wanted to clarify that "Cornwall" is not in the quinte region. It is approx 2 hrs east of quinte region on the Quebec border of south/eastern Ontario
 
That Deep River connection again!

I'm not discounting a Deep River connection at this point. Whatever it is that shapes these killers most likely has some deep-rooted connection to their early childhood, and it wouldn't surprise me if RW did some strolls down memory lane by visiting old haunts from happier times.

There is a connection between 8 Wing and Chalk River:


from:
http://www.cefcom-comfec.forces.gc.ca/pa-ap/nr-sp/doc-eng.asp?id=1885

Scroll down to "Canadian Forces’ Joint Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Defence (JNBCD) Company":

By stationing the JNBCD Company at 8 Wing Trenton, Ontario, it is able to benefit from on-site military airlift in time of crisis.

Also, RW had his Masters of Defence. Defence specialist studies would include components related to bio-chemical weaponry and responses.

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cach..."chalk+river"++jnbcd&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca
 
“Williams, looking tired and with a few days growth of beard, made his second court appearance via video link …”

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/767440--colonel-charged-in-murders-makes-court-appearance

http://www.thestar.com/searchresults?AssetType=image&stype=genSearch&q=russell williams&r=all:1

Either this sketch artist is not very skilled, or RW has aged ten years since his arrest.

While I try to avoid posting speculation about the thoughts and feelings of anyone associated with these cases, I can’t help but wonder what could be going through this man’s mind. He has lived his entire adult life with great promise, success, extraordinary respect and even envy, I should think. He had money, prestige, a long-term marriage, and expectation of an even better future. No matter what happened in his childhood, his later accomplishments would have been cause for enormous pride and self-satisfaction. He must have felt invincible. And now, in a matter of a few short minutes (the road canvass), all this has vanished forever.

I still believe in the concept of “innocent until proven guilty”, but based on the wealth of information we have been given in this case, I have little doubt that LE got the right man. In spite of his new eminent lawyer, I think he will be spending the next few decades in a cold, hard cell, losing everything he has held dear – his freedom, his reputation, his family, his creature comforts. It’s no wonder he looks haggard and ten years older.

(These are just some personal thoughts and should not be interpreted in any way as sympathy. If anything, they might be considered a sort of gloating.)

JMO
 
I agree AG ... in short, and as horribly blunt as this sounds, it wouldn't surprise me if this guy suicides.
 
I noticed the date on this article referred to earlier and it is the same date that Jessica was last seen (Jan 28th). I wonder if the colonel knew in advance of this article that the OPP was asking for help from the public in regards to Marie Comeau. It is a big coincidence but I have to wonder if it triggered him to assault and murder another woman.

OPP seek public’s assistance in Brighton murder case: http://northumberlandnews.com/news/article/147213
 
Stumbled upon this article, which is from an FBI report that was released to Police. Thought you might want to ponder it, seeings as how the vast majority of my own knowledge tends to be Hollywood based:)

http://www.all-about-forensic-psychology.com/serial-killers.html

"It has been widely believed that once serial killers start killing, they cannot stop. There are, however, some serial killers who stop murdering altogether before being caught. In these instances, there are events or circumstances in offenders’ lives that inhibit them from pursuing more victims. These can include increased participation in family activities, sexual substitution, and other diversions."

Interesting....very interesting....
 
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