17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #18

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Velouria said:
BBM

Not serious to all of us, I'm afraid. :rolleyes: GZ does appear to have some sort of abrasion or laceration to the top of his head, but the extent and seriousness of his injuries is yet to be determined. Neither the EMT's report nor the records from his personal physician have been released.
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You may not have watched the enhanced video that CNN posted.
 
waltzingmatilda said:
http://orlandoweekly.com/news/trayvon-martin-case-is-a-black-eye-for-sanford-1.1295169

Thanks to whoever posted this link on the last thread! Very insightful info on the climate there in Sanford. IMO, if there was ever a govt. agency that needs cultural diversity training it would be Sanford PD.

I am saying a prayer for truth and justice in this case and also for peace in Sanford, regardless of the outcome.

IMO, it sounds like GZ has two sides to his personality like my ex. He projected a good image to his friends and co-workers but wasn't really close to any of them but he had a violent, criminal side which he kept hidden for the most part. And his dad always 'saved' him when he got into trouble. I tried to tell people, called 911 when he beat me up, called the domestic violence center and had a few close friends who believed me and helped me to get out of there. It was only after we had been divorced a few years that his evil ways finally caught up with him and he was imprisoned and folks finally realized that I wasn't just blowing hot air about the things he did. Jesse jackson's rainbow coalition even filed suit against his business, which was licensed by the FCC, for racism and not hiring enough minorities. He was a gifted liar.

IDK I guess the similarities I see between the two is why I question GZ's camps version of events. Plus I am older and wiser now, lol! Sorry for the personal story but I needed to get that off my chest.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-boyce-watkins/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin_b_1393761.html

MOO

wm
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I am still going through that I have some of my own family believe him over me I just don't have the health or financial resources to leave. The physical abuse stopped years ago but the emotional abuse is bad at times. I am glad you got out.

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JeannaT said:
You may not have watched the enhanced video that CNN posted.
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There is the problem I have. If it had to be "enhanced" to be seen...it wasn't very bad to start with. imooooooooo.
 
Adrienne37 said:
Zimmerman family asks for donations...

The man who shot Trayvon Martin has been in hiding since the story made national news. Now, George Zimmerman’s family is setting up a website, www.zimmermandefense.com , to raise money for “their living expenses and for his defense,” the family’s attorneys said in a statement Friday. Zimmerman has said that his shooting of the unarmed 17-year-old Martin was in self-defense, and the neighborhood watch captain has yet to be charged with a crime. The website was not live as of Friday morning.
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http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/George...nse-in-Trayvon-Martin-Shooting-146418425.html
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Good! I am sure GZ's family is suffering financially in this mess as well as Trayvon's family is. I empathize with the plight of both families regardless of my opinion wrt the investigation.

mpo

wm
 
tehcloser said:
There is the problem I have. If it had to be "enhanced" to be seen...it wasn't very bad to start with. imooooooooo.
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The video was very grainy. What they ended up with, in the enhancement, IMHO, is what it would have looked like if you were standing behind him looking at it in person with your eyes. I don't believe the enhancement was intended to make the injuries appear worse, but rather appear correct.
 
JeannaT said:
The video was very grainy. What they ended up with, in the enhancement, IMHO, is what it would have looked like if you were standing behind him looking at it in person with your eyes. I don't believe the enhancement was intended to make the injuries appear worse, but rather appear correct.
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I saw the video. In my opinion it was not all that grainy.
 
JeannaT said:
The video was very grainy. What they ended up with, in the enhancement, IMHO, is what it would have looked like if you were standing behind him looking at it in person with your eyes. I don't believe the enhancement was intended to make the injuries appear worse, but rather appear correct.
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BBM...The grainy video did NOT make the injuries "obvious". I just wish they would have tried to enhance them PRIOR to releasing them. :twocents:

JMHO~
 
LambChop said:
So it does seem fishy unless LE added the name when he was identified and before they released the reports. If the reports are not signed they are just reports on a computer and we all know the identity would have had to been added once he was identified. They would not keep him listed as John Doe. jmo
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The reports online at the City of Sanford web site were "printed" on 03/06/2012, well after Trayvon was identified. I say "printed" because the version online is in PDF format, but they could have their software set up to "print" to PDF. I do that for my genealogical pages and have the software set up to print the date saved, the website it is from, and the name of the page from which it was printed.

I believe that although those reports are labeled "initial report" they have alterations from days after the night of the killing. Maybe their system is not set up to preserve the various versions as the reports are updated, though nearly every software out these days is capable of doing that. Or maybe the Sanford Police Department does not want the true original information in the reports to come out and so only released altered reports as the initial ones.

IMO, JMO, etc.
 
http://orlandoweekly.com/news/trayvon-martin-case-is-a-black-eye-for-sanford-1.1295169

“They put these black boys in jail on all these bogus charges, and it's just not true. … There is so much corruption in the police department, they as crooked as a barrel of fishhooks. … I pray every night for the truth.”

This is one grandmother's opinion, and I don't have any reason to doubt her after what we have seen in this case. If is true, I hope those individuals who are guilty of criminal conduct will be prosecuted.
 
Coca-Cola has withdrawn from the group that supports the stand your ground law!
 
JeannaT said:
The video was very grainy. What they ended up with, in the enhancement, IMHO, is what it would have looked like if you were standing behind him looking at it in person with your eyes. I don't believe the enhancement was intended to make the injuries appear worse, but rather appear correct.
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I don't think any level of "enhancement" to that video will ever allow it rise to the level of acceptance with a jury that the UNENHANCED image of Tracy Martin's son will:

When Tracy Martin greeted the police that morning, a plainclothes detective asked him to describe his son. "He asked me what he last had on. He asked me if I had any recent pictures," Martin said.

"I showed him a recent picture in the camera and he shook his head and said, 'OK, let me go to my car and get something.'" The detective returned with a folder.

It was drizzling, and he asked Martin if they could go inside. When they were seated he pulled out a photo. It was Trayvon, dead at the scene - his eyes rolled back, a tear on his cheek, saliva coming from his mouth.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/03/us-usa-florida-shooting-trayvon-idUSBRE8320UK20120403
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What a horrible, horrible way to realize the fate of your child.
 
Kimberlyd125 said:
Has there been any mention of possible riots if he is arrested?

Who will riot?

I've seen no marches or organized demonstrations in support of GZ.
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A letter making threats of a very dangerous nature was sent to NAACP telling what is planned if GZ is arrested.
 
francie said:
What about a driver's license fingerprint/thumbprint on file if Trayvon has his license?
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Florida does not take prints for driver's license. I've had Florida driver's licenses since 1968 and was never printed for one. There are some requirements for fingerprints for some commercial operators and dealers, but not for a general driver's license.

The following tests are given at the driver license offices and may or may not be required for the license or identification card you are seeking. The testing chart located in this information will help you determine the test(s) you will be required to complete.

Hearing - Drivers applying for a license who are deaf, or cannot hear conversation spoken in a normal tone of voice, are restricted to driving with an outside rearview mirror which should be mounted on the left side of the vehicle, or wearing of a hearing aid.
Vision - Vision testing, using an eye machine located on the counter, is conducted in all driver license offices. Visual acuity readings worse than 20/40 are referred to an eye specialist. Color blindness will not cause any special condition for licensing.
Road Signs - consists of 20 questions regarding road signs, with multiple choice answers.
Road Rules - consists of 20 questions regarding traffic laws and safety, with multiple choice answers.
Driving Test - You must provide a vehicle for the driving test. The vehicle must have a valid tag, proof of insurance, and pass a vehicle inspection. During the driving test, the examiner will observe your ability to control the vehicle and how well you obey traffic laws.
http://www.flhsmv.gov/ddl/geninfo.html
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IMO, JMO, unless a link is provided.
 
Concerned Papa said:
I don't think any level of "enhancement" to that video will ever allow it rise to the level of acceptance with a jury that the UNENHANCED image of Tracy Martin's son will:



What a horrible, horrible way to realize the fate of your child.
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Any way is horrible and so very painful for so very long - seems like an eternity.
 
How did Zimmerman know Trayvon was in his late teens.

It was dark, raining, the kid was 6'3. What clues allowed Zimmerman to guess his age so close?
 
Footwarrior said:
The edit was rather trivial. It gave the impression that George Zimmerman reported the suspect was black without being explicitly asked, but there isn't anything really wrong with him doing so. He had been asked to describe the suspect.

The uproar was created by the right wing noise machine. The same pundits that are always claiming that the mainstream media is not to be trusted. Pundits who routinely report complete fabrications on their shows.

It's a distraction from the real issue. Did George Zimmerman witness Martin doing anything a rational person would see as suspicious?
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Editing out the part of the dispatch asking GZ whether the suspect is white black or hispanic is not trivial in my book. jmo
 
Elley Mae said:
Editing out the part of the dispatch asking GZ whether the suspect is white black or hispanic is not trivial in my book. jmo
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It's very hard to imagine any other reason for doing that, than to try to advance an incorrect perception that GZ is racist. Responsible editing usually eliminates long portions of silence, or things that are completely irrelevant, or need to be kept confidential.
 
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