France - Air France Plane from Rio to Paris Goes Missing Over Atlantic, 1 June 2009

RECIFE, Brazil — Brazil's Navy said Sunday it recovered three more bodies from the ocean where an Air France jet is believed to have crashed in violent weather, bringing the total number of Flight 447 victims plucked from the water to five.
Authorities also say they have spotted an undetermined number of additional bodies from the air and are sending ships to recover them. (more at link)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525326,00.html
 
Geraldo just announced a Fox News alert that at total of 17 bodies have been recovered.

:rose:
 
The announcement is also here:

Brazil recovers more bodies near jet crash site

RECIFE, Brazil - Search ships methodically worked through a "sea of debris" from a doomed Air France jet Sunday, recovering 15 more bodies near the spot where the Airbus A330 is believed to have gone down a week ago.
Two bodies were recovered Saturday, and Brazilian and French ships picked up 15 more Sunday after pilots participating in a grid search reported additional sightings. The bodies have been found in an area about 45 miles (70 kilometers) from where the jet sent out messages signaling electrical failures and loss of cabin pressure.
"We're navigating through a sea of debris," Brazilian Navy Capt. Giucemar Tabosa Cardoso said.

more at: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31151191
 
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090608/Brazil_wreckage_090608/20090608?hub=TopStories

The discovery of 17 bodies in the Atlantic Ocean should help pinpoint where Air France flight 447 went down more than a week ago and where to find the black boxes that might explain what went wrong.

Brazilian and French authorities say have no doubt they've located the wreckage of the flight, now that several structural parts of the Airbus 330 have been pulled from the ocean, some of it with the Air France logo.
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/08/air-france-tail-section-recovered

The navy teams, who have now pulled 16 bodies from the water, recovered a large tail section from the Airbus A330, carrying the red and blue stripes of the airline's livery. The find raised hopes that investigators may yet be able to locate the jet's voice and data recorders, seen as vital to discovering what caused the crash. The black box recorders, presumed to be thousands of metres below the surface, emit sonar signals for at least 30 days.
 
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iOegnahAFcEgwJZ4WKGkVz9Dgq5wD98MNHF80

And some high-tech help is on the way — two U.S. Navy devices capable of picking up the flight recorders' emergency beacons far below on the ocean floor. What caused the Airbus A330-200 to plunge into the middle of the ocean on May 31 with 228 people on board might not be known until those black boxes are found.

But some Air France pilots aren't waiting for a definitive answer. With investigators looking at the possibility that external speed monitors iced over and gave dangerously false readings to cockpit computers in a thunderstorm, a union is urging pilots to refuse to fly Airbus A330 and A340 planes unless the monitors — known as Pitot tubes — are replaced.
 
I flew on an A330 back from Europe to the US a week before the Air France flight crashed. <shudder>

Hoppy
 
The searchers have located a part of the tail. The various reports use different terms for it, but what it is (I know this stuff) is the vertical stabilizer and rudder assembly. Here's a picture of the actual plane that crashed taken in February of this year:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-France/Airbus-A330-203/1490136/L/

I have attached a couple of pictures of the part as found floating.

I appreciate that . A question for you. The bodies that have been found, do you thing these people were sitting in the back of the plane? Also, they didn't spot the bodies right away, and am wondering if they were submerged and the law of decomp took over, raising them to the surface. I'm just wondering if they might find more bodies and it might give an indication. xox
 
http://travel.asiaone.com/Travel/News/Story/A1Story20090609-147374.html

A helicopter bearing the first human remains recovered from the Air France jet that plunged into the Atlantic a week ago killing 228 people, arrived Tuesday in Fernando de Noronha off the Brazilian mainland.

Officials said that bodies and debris fished from ocean waters off the coast of Brazil, are to be taken to the mainland coastal city of Recife, where investigators hope to identify the remains by checking dental records and DNA samples provided by relatives.



http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/Interpol-to-help-identify-Air-France-jet-crash-victims/articleshow/4636461.cms

The global police agency Interpol will help French and Brazilian officials identify victims of the crash of Air France flight 447, the
organisation said on Tuesday.
"Since the victims of this tragedy came from all parts of the globe, international collaboration will be essential in ensuring their accurate, dignified and speedy recovery and identification so as to enable the families to begin the healing process," said Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble.
 
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23705427-details/Air+France+fits+speed+sensors+after+crash/article.do

Air France is equipping all its flights using long-haul Airbus jets with new speed sensors after last week's disaster over the Atlantic, it was announced today.

The sensors, known as pitot tubes, have become the focus of an investigation into the crash after messages showed they provided "inconsistent" data to the pilots and might have played a role in the 1 June crash.


http://www.latimes.com/business/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-ml-airlines-speed-sensors,0,4830588.story

Some of the biggest operators of the plane involved in the recent Air France crash said Tuesday they use a different brand of airspeed sensor than those aboard the doomed flight, distancing themselves from instruments seen as a possible factor in last week's accident


http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/06/09/brazil.plane.crash/?iref=mpstoryview

Air France has agreed to replace within days sensors on all of its Airbus A330 and A340 airplanes, parts that are suspected of being involved in last week's crash, a pilots' union said Tuesday.


Recovery efforts have found several items confirmed to have come from Air France Flight 447.

Air France said Saturday that it had begun replacing the sensors throughout its fleet in April.

An Air France representative said Tuesday the airline would not comment until after a meeting later in the day between Air France and the SNPL union.

Airbus had advised airlines to update the pitot tubes, part of the equipment that monitors speed. The recommendation was a result of technological developments and improvements, an Airbus spokesman said. The change was not mandatory.
 
A statement from the agency said an Interpol officer would be attached to a French gendarmerie unit from Paris charged with identifying the victims using their DNA, fingerprints, medical records, tattoos and other clues.

From the article I posted above.

Sounds as if it will be a long, heart wrenching job to identify everyone. :(
 
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-06/10/content_11516269.htm

Four more bodies have been recovered from the Atlantic Ocean near the area where Air France Flight 447 crashed on June 1, Brazil's Navy told reporters on Tuesday.

The remains were found northeast of the island chain Soa Pedro y Sao Paulo by navy frigate Bosisio, which has room to carry 20 bodies, said Giucemar Tabosa, the navy's public relations consultant. The new discovery brought the total number of bodies found and recovered so far to 28.
 
wow that's still not very many :(

prayers to the families.

No. It isn't, although this is better than a week ago when no one thought any remains would be found. Still, most likely all who were lost will not be recovered. I just sit here and wonder about the last minutes of this terrible accident and hope the passengers were not conscious during the final ordeal. The pilots were very experienced, so I'm sure they did all they could do. So sad.
 
The only way to know where they had been sitting is if they are identified and from that the authorities determine their seating locations. If the bodies were still seat belted in the type of seat would identify which cabin they were in (First, Business, Coach).

I think bodies float in salt water regardless. Once they sank in those depths I don't think they would come back up, though.
Since the largest piece of the aircraft to be recovered so far is the vertical stabilizer, my guess would be that these passengers were in the rear cabin. Could it be they are being dislodged from the remnants of the aircraft as the searchers try to recover the pieces? MOO
 
I am so bothered by this crash. The last few moments of that flight were the most unimaginable terror, a true nightmare. I really hope they find the black boxes and FDR so that this does not happen again.

The Airbus 330 is a safe aircraft and 12 other flights flew through the exact area earlier in the day and reported no problems. for this flight to go down it had to be a sequence of things, not just one.

I am flying to England from PHL on a 767 in July. I am really nervous and I hate flying as it is so this crash puts me on edge. I am going to have to take a Xanax to get me through the flight.
 

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