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The World According said:
On Geraldo, Brad came on and Geraldo and Brad were discussing Hoover trying to sell the tape of Dom in the woods to the Geraldo show for a huge amount of money, and that the Anthonys gave it exclusively to Geraldo with the understanding that no one be paid a penny for it. What I am looking for is the recording of the day before that. On his show Geraldo mentioned something I had never heard before or since, that Hoover was said to have claimed to have not only the video but maps and or diagrams of the area they were to search. Does anyone have that recording? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_sEh-hVZcA
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Here is the video from the day before.
January 10, 2009

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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8hpzqLrY2g[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85blM88eT44[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnAtPgKl17g[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrNTTSPwOeM[/ame]
 
Reagan said:
Can someone direct me to a very early pre-trial hearing video where cindy has the nerve to raise her hand and stand up while the Judge and counsel were talking? Or something to that effect.
Thanks in advance.
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That was during the hearing for the gag order motion Nov. 25, 2008. Kind of ironic, huh?
Here's the full hearing video: http://www.wftv.com/video/18147900/index.html
The camera goes to Cindy at the 53:20 mark.
 
The World According said:
On Geraldo, Brad came on and Geraldo and Brad were discussing Hoover trying to sell the tape of Dom in the woods to the Geraldo show for a huge amount of money, and that the Anthonys gave it exclusively to Geraldo with the understanding that no one be paid a penny for it. What I am looking for is the recording of the day before that. On his show Geraldo mentioned something I had never heard before or since, that Hoover was said to have claimed to have not only the video but maps and or graphics of the area they were to search. Does anyone have that recording? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_sEh-hVZcA Does anyone remember him saying that or am I going crazy? LOL!
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I found it: Thank you so much Patty! It is at the 3:00 mark.[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_sEh-hVZcA[/ame] Has this been in the discovery, graphics and maps that Dom had, or does anyone recall the police asking Dom about this?
 
Does anyone recall if we have seen a release of phone records between GA, CA and the Anthony home phone for the month of June? If so, could you please provide a link...I am particularly interested in the contact for June 15 and 16. TIA.
 
Hi there. Just know that on top of their normal land line and cell phones they all had those buy and toss phones (Bat phones) Lee admitted to in his depo.

That begs the question...if you are all looking to help LE find Caylee...why are you in fear of being caught saying something incriminating on a phone the police can tap and trace?

People tell on themselves! I liken it to a wife suddenly finding the husband has yet another cell phone. Hello!!!!![ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1yTsdWNdHA[/ame] According to Mr. Hoover Dom had at least three cell phones that day , Kathi relays here to Nancy! THREE! So unless we see all the records, one set means nothing, imo.
 
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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txDrjuuXH0U[/ame] Did Ms. Lucas ever produce these phone records she promised?
 
mom2chloe said:
Does anyone recall if we have seen a release of phone records between GA, CA and the Anthony home phone for the month of June? If so, could you please provide a link...I am particularly interested in the contact for June 15 and 16. TIA.
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The copies I have are unredacted, so I don't want to post them, but here's the family contact for June 15 and 16:

June 15 (Cindy and Caylee's Father's Day visit to nursing home):

Cindy calls Casey at 2:39 pm, 2 minutes
Someone at the house calls Casey at 3:35 pm--goes to voicemail
Casey calls the house at 5:06 pm, 3 min.
George calls the house at 5:48 pm, 3 min.
Casey calls the house at 7:10 pm, less than 1 min.

June 16 (the day George supposedly sees Casey and Caylee leave the house at 12:50 pm--but notice his phone call to the supposedly empty house below):

Someone at the house (could be Casey herself trying to find her phone??) calls Casey at 7:45 am--goes to voicemail

George calls the house at 3:03 pm, less than 1 min.
George calls Casey at 3:04 pm, less than 1 min.

Casey calls Cindy's office at 4:10 pm, less than 1 min.
Casey calls Cindy at 4:11:25 pm, 0 min.
Casey calls Cindy at 4:11:49 pm, less than 1 min.
Casey calls Cindy at 4:13:04 pm, 0 min.
Casey calls Cindy at 4:13:29 pm, less than 1 min.
Casey calls Cindy's office at 4:14 pm, 1 1/2 min.
Casey calls Cindy at 4:25 pm, less than 1 min.

Cindy calls Casey at 5:56 pm--goes to voicemail

Casey calls Cindy at 6:31 pm, 0 min.
Casey calls Cindy at 6:32:10 pm, less than 1 min.
Casey calls the house at 6:32:54 pm, less than 1 min.

Casey calls the house at 7:06 pm, 1 1/2 min.
 
The World According said:
Hi there. Just know that on top of their normal land line and cell phones they all had those buy and toss phones (Bat phones) Lee admitted to in his depo.

That begs the question...if you are all looking to help LE find Caylee...why are you in fear of being caught saying something incriminating on a phone the police can tap and trace?

People tell on themselves! I liken it to a wife suddenly finding the husband has yet another cell phone. Hello!!!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1yTsdWNdHA According to Mr. Hoover Dom had at least three cell phones that day , Kathi relays here to Nancy! THREE! So unless we see all the records, one set means nothing, imo.
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IF LE was able to get the Bat phones that were used, would they be able to retrieve the numbers dialed/received? Maybe from a chip or card inside?
 
Do we know if George had a "work phone?" I recall him making one reference to making a call from his "work phone" but don't ever recall seeing any phone records from it. (It's hard to know if George refers to his cell phone as a "work phone" or if he had one supplied to him through his work.) In Cindy's 2009 State Depo, she does make a statement that might indicate that George would call Casey much more often than the two calls that can be traced to his cell phone. (it's hard to know if Cindy was just saying this, or if it's even true)
 
Sun said:
Do we know if George had a "work phone?" I recall him making one reference to making a call from his "work phone" but don't ever recall seeing any phone records from it. (It's hard to know if George refers to his cell phone as a "work phone" or if he had one supplied to him through his work.) In Cindy's 2009 State Depo, she does make a statement that might indicate that George would call Casey much more often than the two calls that can be traced to his cell phone. (it's hard to know if Cindy was just saying this, or if it's even true)
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Cindy might have been referring to the fact that Casey's cell records as released show only a couple of calls from George, but George's cell records show 6 calls to Casey during the time period of interest. Casey's records show "voicemail waiting" messages at about the right time for George's other calls, but don't show the calls themselves.
 
Now why would GA be calling the house for KC around 3pm when he saw KC go to work at 1pm? That is strange. Anyone have any ideas???
 
LambChop said:
Now why would GA be calling the house for KC around 3pm when he saw KC go to work at 1pm? That is strange. Anyone have any ideas???
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IIRC, Casey called her father first around 3:00 PM. There was a lot of discussion on these phone calls back when Mark Furhman spoke about the calls late 2008. If I spot the thread I will bump it up. :)
 
Patty G said:
IIRC, Casey called her father first around 3:00 PM. There was a lot of discussion on these phone calls back when Mark Furhman spoke about the calls late 2008. If I spot the thread I will bump it up. :)
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George called the house at 3:03 pm, then George called Casey's cell at 3:04 pm. There is no call from Casey to George.

ETA: There was a thread about this, though...I think it was started by Bond.
 
AZlawyer said:
George called the house at 3:03 pm, then George called Casey's cell at 3:04 pm. There is no call from Casey to George.

ETA: There was a thread about this, though...I think it was started by Bond.
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Where did you get the info that George called Casey and that there is no call from Casey to George?

Now I have to look for Mark Furhman stating via a source that Casey called George, then Casey called her mother at work, then called her mother at home. Thanks.

Found it!

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCXpQR_OMHo[/ame]
 
Patty G said:
Where did you get the info that George called Casey and that there is no call from Casey to George?

Now I have to look for Mark Furhman stating via a source that Casey called George, then Casey called her mother at work, then called her mother at home. Thanks.

Found it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCXpQR_OMHo
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I got it directly from the phone records, which, again, I don't want to link because they are unredacted and I think that would be a violation of the TOS.

I listed in my post above every single call on those 2 days between family members that shows in the phone records of (1) Casey, (2) George, (3) Cindy and (4) the A. house. There are no calls from Casey to George or to the house before George calls her.
 
AZlawyer said:
I got it directly from the phone records, which, again, I don't want to link because they are unredacted and I think that would be a violation of the TOS.

I listed in my post above every single call on those 2 days between family members that shows in the phone records of (1) Casey, (2) George, (3) Cindy and (4) the A. house. There are no calls from Casey to George or to the house before George calls her.
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Thank you. I checked out our calendar of calls for June 16th and clearly see I was mistaken about Casey calling George first from her cell phone.

Good thing I start off with IIRC ... :crazy: Thanks again!
 
AZlawyer said:
The copies I have are unredacted, so I don't want to post them, but here's the family contact for June 15 and 16:

June 15 (Cindy and Caylee's Father's Day visit to nursing home):

Cindy calls Casey at 2:39 pm, 2 minutes
Someone at the house calls Casey at 3:35 pm--goes to voicemail
Casey calls the house at 5:06 pm, 3 min.
George calls the house at 5:48 pm, 3 min.
Casey calls the house at 7:10 pm, less than 1 min.

June 16 (the day George supposedly sees Casey and Caylee leave the house at 12:50 pm--but notice his phone call to the supposedly empty house below):

Someone at the house (could be Casey herself trying to find her phone??) calls Casey at 7:45 am--goes to voicemail

George calls the house at 3:03 pm, less than 1 min.
George calls Casey at 3:04 pm, less than 1 min.

Casey calls Cindy's office at 4:10 pm, less than 1 min.
Casey calls Cindy at 4:11:25 pm, 0 min.
Casey calls Cindy at 4:11:49 pm, less than 1 min.
Casey calls Cindy at 4:13:04 pm, 0 min.
Casey calls Cindy at 4:13:29 pm, less than 1 min.
Casey calls Cindy's office at 4:14 pm, 1 1/2 min.
Casey calls Cindy at 4:25 pm, less than 1 min.

Cindy calls Casey at 5:56 pm--goes to voicemail

Casey calls Cindy at 6:31 pm, 0 min.
Casey calls Cindy at 6:32:10 pm, less than 1 min.
Casey calls the house at 6:32:54 pm, less than 1 min.

Casey calls the house at 7:06 pm, 1 1/2 min.
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Re: the 5:56 call going to voicemail

Looking over Toni's statements I have noted that LE did not ask him what time Casey arrived at his apartment on June 16th. I have been looking for some kind of reference point to gauge a time of arrival. Early on this article stated there was a call from Casey to Toni at 5:57.

There was no other communication from Anthony's cell phone until a call was made to Lazzaro's apartment at 5:57 p.m., records show.
Two hours later, Anthony and Lazzaro were captured on surveillance video at a Blockbuster, renting a movie that contains a scene of a rotting body in a car trunk, Pipitone said.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17931576/detail.html
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Looking at records I do not see that call listed. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/Casey_Anthony_cell_records_615_to_716

I gather that is an error in reporting. Am I correct in my assumption?
 
Whoa! In the Geraldo videos in Patti G's post #581, it's mentioned that the media, through open records, found out that Kronk was indeed assigned to work in the area where the remains were found in August (when he first reported seeing something 3 times), December (when he found the remains) AND NOVEMBER!! If he was in the area in November, there is a chance he may have noticed all the activity of DC and Hoover going in and out of the woods. Many have questioned why he waited 4 months to go back and look. Maybe this increased activity is why he checked it out again in December, when he was reassigned to that area!
 
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