FL 17 y/o Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #12

songline said:

I did read the voice analysis. I am still in the head set to wait:
I am never very sure of people that come out
on the weekend to give a report.

Just like I am not sure of a DA that came out in the rain on a Sunday night
to a scene where someone was shot to declare if the shooter should be apprehended.

I think if I question one I should also question the other.

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LolaMoon08 said:

I've seen people more upset over killing a dog than Zimmerman appeared in the video at the station? I'll never forget when I hit a cat. I had to pull over because I could not stop crying. I sat there for a good 30 minutes crying.

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katydid23 said:

OKAY, just hypothetically. If it can be shown that it was GZ who was screaming for help....would that alter anyone's opinions at all?

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RANCH said:

I hope that it will be transparent too. But what happens if there isn't indisputable evidence that it was a justified shooting? And what happens if there isn't indisputable evidence of murder or manslaughter? In other words insufficient evidence. Go ahead and charge GZ anyway? And let a jury decide. I don't know if that would be right. JMO.

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vlpate said:

They would be violating his constitutional right to waive treatment.

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iluvmua said:

Just because he was not crying at the station does not mean he did not cry after shooting TM. You really CAN"T tell if he was crying on the Police station video.

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Sensei said:

If the voice analyst is correct, then it is highly likely that the bullet trajectory, and the powder burns and the other forensic evidence that can be gleaned from Trayvon's body and other places are going to support that, and then the arrest will be made because the States Attorney is not going to arrest at this point only on PC, they want a prosecutable case, not a screwup when they go to trial, I still have that funny feeling in the pit of my stomach that says that while the bullet might have been close, it may not have been close enough to substantiate an attack...but that is just me, I do not see how a very close contact shot could leave GZ's clothing as unscathed as it was, there should have been some sign that he was very close when Trayvon was shot, and some blood spatter IMO JMHO and stuff.

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RANCH said:

I'm still trying to understand how LE can force medical treatment on someone if their of sound mind.

I think that this may be a good question for Richard Hornsby on tomorrows Websleuths Radio show.

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SoSueMe said:

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RANCH said:

I hope that it will be transparent too. But what happens if there isn't indisputable evidence that it was a justified shooting? And what happens if there isn't indisputable evidence of murder or manslaughter? In other words insufficient evidence. Go ahead and charge GZ anyway? And let a jury decide. I don't know if that would be right. JMO.

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mfcmom said:

I still suspect he was shot in the back as Zimmerman was seen standing over him and he was face down. JMO also

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Ironhorse said:

I'd been to two rally's over this incident already so I didn't attend today's. Instead I went to the gun show in Orange county. It was the busiest show I've seen in years could hardly walk around the place.

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I've been keeping abreast of all the info being released/leaked to the public. I still remain committed to my first impression that this incident was purely a snowballed incident that ended in tragedy. Each individual let their suspicion of the other get the better of them.

Funny thing happened yesterday that gave me pause to think. I was washing a car and down the street I heard a forceful bark from a dog. This bark wasn't the typical bark from a dog but rather one of posturing. Then I heard a man shouting get out of here as I turned to look I saw the dog and a man in a stand off... Now what's the importance of this and what does it have to do with the incident in Sanford. Well, in some ways it mirrored what Zimmerman/Martin must have experienced. In that moment it didn't matter what the history was of the neighbor or the dog, for each was entitled to defend themselves. Had the dog attacked the man would have been been justified in self-defense. Had the man attacked the dog then the dog had every right to bite him...

See, all the rest doesn't really matter. Some say Zimmerman shouldn't have gotten out of his truck. Maybe if Martin hadn't been suspended from school he wouldn't have been in Sanford. See there is all sorts of what if's and trying to lay blame on such things are of no material importance. The only thing that really defines this incident is what happened at the moment Zimmerman fired the shot. Was he defending his well being or was he not.

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Ironhorse said:

Was not aware of that thank you for informing me. I had been away from the site last couple of days... If you don't mind me asking did they give a reason or am I supposed to ignore everything written/spoken/or seen?

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